the manifold painted with high heat black
once we found the flange, reamed it out to fit and had a piece flared to fit over the raised step we painted it black as well.
the pyro will be fitted to the manifold.
the turbo kit.
there were issues with the kit:
there were 4 boxes that were sent, it took over 6 weeks for them all to arrive
the exhaust manifold gasket was missing
the 2 longer exhaust manifold bolts were missing
the adapter between the manifold and the turbo had studs too large for the turbo recieving holes making drilling the turbo out to fit.
the exhaust manifold bolt holes were wrong pitch for bolts supplied
no instructions were included
no cross over pipe was included
no ducting from the air box to the turbo
the boost line was too short
no flange for the turbo to exhaust pipe
no bolts for the flange
all in all, i am unimpressed with the "kit". i do hope the performance is as suggested.
to be fair, most of these issues are not Diesel42's fault. the shipping was screwed up by the sub-suppliers. s*** happens.
i have made some suggestions to Keith as to how to make the kit more user friendly, it is up to him whether it will happen or not.
O'kay this was Waynes side of the story now i'll give you ours:
"there were 4 boxes that were sent, it took over 6 weeks for them all to arrive"
As all of you that we've supplied thhis kit to knows, we ship some of these parts(turbo,manifold, and silicone hoses) directly to you so you don't have to pay additional shipping from the supplier to our shop then back to you. Because this kit was sent to Canada, some of the parts got hung up in Canadian custums. We supplied the shipping info and tracking# to the buyer. Nothing we can do about that.
"the exhaust manifold gasket was missing
the 2 longer exhaust manifold bolts were missing"
There is a OEM Toyota gasket with the two special bolts sent with the 13bt manifold from our supplier. Wayne said he didn't recieve them therefore, I immediately contacted them. They said they double wrap the gaste for protection and asked if I would relay that to Wayne to check which I did. He replied that he couldn't find them and reordered his own.
"the adapter between the manifold and the turbo had studs too large for the turbo recieving holes making drilling the turbo out to fit"
The adapter is CNC machined to exact tolerances per Garrets blue prints. Because the turbo is a case piece and factory jigging the center section for perfect drilling isn't as accurate, sometimes one or more holes needs to be reamed with a slightly larger drill bit so that the four holes can slid down over the adapter. The studs were not to large.
"the exhaust manifold bolt holes were wrong pitch for bolts supplied"
As many of you know, Toyota stopped production of the factory 13bt manifold. Myself and two Canadian suppliers joined forces and had these reproduced overseas. The first batch that arrived have the wrong thread pitch which did not get caught in quality control. Those that got these found this out. Shouldn't have happened and has been rectified. We have spent alot of time and money to make these available to the LC guys.
"no instructions were included"
Instructions have never been available in over 50 kits over the last few years as it is really self explainatory and anyone that has bought this kit knows, I go out of my way to answer questions on my time and dime(phone calls) to answer questions. Wayne was provided my phone # however never once called.
"no cross over pipe was included"
The crossover pipe is just a 9" piece of 2" aluminized exhaust tubing that is available at any exhaust/muffler shop in there cut off pile(usually free). Because of its size, we were having to ship in a larger box which raised the shipping. When we calculated the increasse coupled with the cost of buying a stick of tubing and cutting it,etc. It was really cheaper for the customer to get it when they have there exhaust done(again usually always free. I expain this when everyone orders.
"no ducting from the air box to the turbo"
This too is also explained to the customer. Reason: There are alot of vehicles the B-series engines went in to. We have no idea what air delievery system each customer is going to use. Therefore how can we supply parts.
"the boost line was too short"
From the pictures, you've got the center section upside down. Both the compressor and turbine sides are fully clockable allowing the center section to rotate 360deg. The wastegate bracket can also be moved. Again, I offered to contact Garret and have a longer piece sent to him. He replied,"Dealt with".
"no flange for the turbo to exhaust pipe"
Again, Garret doesn't supply a exhaust flange as they have no idea as to what size exhaust each individual customer is going to use. Neither do we. These are triangular three hole rings that every exhaust shop uses.
"no bolts for the flange"
Answered previous
Most that know me are aware that I own a protoype and design machine shop. We don't make turbos. I built this kit for my LC some years back. Then guys kept asking if I would supply the parts as a kit I agreed as this forum has been so good to me. We sell usually 2 kits per month. I don't stock our shelves and front valuable working capital with thousands of dollars worth of turbos,manifolds,steel braided lies,silicon hoses,etc. I would have to ask alot more if we did. So, when a order comes in, we build the adapters, gaskets,bolt kits,oil and drain lines,fittings,etc,etc, then ship it. We order the turbo,manifold kit,and silicon hoses from our suppliers then have them dropped shipped directly to you to save you money and increase shipping time.
So, in over fifty kits, never EVER has there been a missing gasket or bolts,etc. Never has there been a complaint(actually one but for another reason). They've gone to the U.S.,Canada, Ireland, South Africa,New Zealand,Austrialia,Mexico. Not one person couldn't source a exhaust flange appropriate for there specific exhaust. Even a lady mudder(i'll leave this up to you if yoiu want to be named) installed the kit without problems. Nobody has had this many issues. Most of which could have been easily resolved have you simply asked. Take the oil port for example. The adapter we provided has the correct British Standard pipe pitch and taper to match the block. Because Wayne was to proud or cocky to ask, he simply stuffed a National Pipe tape through it. So if it leaks or fails and the owner loses his oil, he'll probably blame me on the forum.
I am beside myself at this thread. And hoonestly am considering stopping the tubo kit sales. They are time consuming and not profitable. Again, i'm the owner so I can get away with directing company time to build a kit for a fellow mudder. But to have to defend myself under these circumstances by this guy offends me beyond belief. I have the correspondence between Wayne and my shop if anyone wants to read his snooty emails.
The manifold did have the wrong thread pitch. If he would have called me, I would have sent him a tap or made it right for him. EVERY OTHER PERSON managed this fine and understood it was a manufacturing flaw. But were very appreciative that we stepped up and had these made for them.
Wayne, i've already had two phone calls from members regarding you and this thread. Your reputation PRECEDES you. I am not going to proof read this rather just hitting submit so I won't relive this post.
