biggest tire on 20" TRD wheel (200 series)?

[sPaulp]

Hello all. Does anyone know if a 305/55/20 tire will fit on a non-lifted 200 with 20" TRD wheels? If not, will a 295/55/20 (32.8") be a better option? 295/55 is 32.78" tall and 11.61" wide, 305/55 is 33.21" and 12.01" wide. I believe the offset is 60mm. Will I have to add UCA's or coilovers first? Here are the wheels:

 

[luke27617]

I don't have answers for you, but nice wheels. I didn't know you can buy them in US as I have not seen them anywhere beside replicas sold on Ebay. Where did you find them?

 

[sPaulp]

Ironically, the LC I just purchased was ordered with them new. There is even a Carfax recall notice listed for "TRD accessory wheels TPMS - NHTSA #11V148" which states any vehicle purchased with TRD accessory wheels prior to first sale needs the TPMS recalibrated. Therefore, I can only assume the original owner ordered the LC with the wheels as a port installed option back in'11.

Here is a set I found on Ebay that looks OEM: (USED) 20" TRD STYLE WHEELS 5X150 RIMS FITS TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2008 09 10 11 12 | eBay

I had planned to purchase '13 or newer 18" wheels to replace these when I first committed to the puchase. But, after seeing it in person yesterday for the first time, I was shocked how well they look on the LC. Actually, they look REALLY good and are well proportioned. I would go as far to say that I am surprised the LC doesn't come from the factory with 20" wheels. Granted, they are less off-road friendly than 18's of course, but man do they look good. Hence, instead of replacing I am going to put on at least a 285/55/20 but preferably 295/55 or 205/55 Nitto Ridge Grappler or BFG KO2's. I had planned to lift it and maybe I will just go ahead and throw on an Icon coilover and UCA with OME coils and shocks in the rear. However, if I can fit one of the aforementioned sizes without lifting it, I may rock that for a while. I will post pics of my new rig later today with the wheels.

 

[luke27617]

Ironically, the LC I just purchased was ordered with them new. There is even a Carfax recall notice listed for "TRD accessory wheels TPMS - NHTSA #11V148" which states any vehicle purchased with TRD accessory wheels prior to first sale needs the TPMS recalibrated. Therefore, I can only assume the original owner ordered the LC with the wheels as a port installed option back in'11.

Here is a set I found on Ebay that looks OEM: (USED) 20" TRD STYLE WHEELS 5X150 RIMS FITS TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2008 09 10 11 12 | eBay

I had planned to purchase '13 or newer 18" wheels to replace these when I first committed to the puchase. But, after seeing it in person yesterday for the first time, I was shocked how well they look on the LC. Actually, they look REALLY good and are well proportioned. I would go as far to say that I am surprised the LC doesn't come from the factory with 20" wheels. Granted, they are less off-road friendly than 18's of course, but man do they look good. Hence, instead of replacing I am going to put on at least a 285/55/20 but preferably 295/55 or 205/55 Nitto Ridge Grappler or BFG KO2's. I had planned to lift it and maybe I will just go ahead and throw on an Icon coilover and UCA with OME coils and shocks in the rear. However, if I can fit one of the aforementioned sizes without lifting it, I may rock that for a while. I will post pics of my new rig later today with the wheels.

Congrats on the set of great OEM wheels. The eBay is set is replicas. . I completely agree that LC looks much better with 20s (more proportional). I have just upgraded my 16LC with 13-15 LX570 wheels. The ride as well is so much better (less floating, stable, etc). For even more proportion I would like to get a little higher sidewall as it looks a little too skinny. Don't need off-roading tires (driving on the beach is all I do with 99% of time on pavement and towing) but interested to see options to work with on stock suspension based on your thread. I see off-roading tires only when shifting from factory 285/50-20 to 285/55 or higher sidewall.

 

[Fasternfaster]

a forum member here
@TeCKis300

has recently put some nice big tires on 20" rims, here are some relevant posts.

Trimming Wheel Well for Larger Tires
LX570 Slammed on 33's
Fitting a Big Fat Spare

Basically you will need to add spacers, and remove mudflaps.

 

[RS6tofj80]

305's will require the Exact right offset ....... likely significant rubbing on the KDSS or require extnsive cutting of the inner liner without a full lift... but that said if that's in the works it might be livable for a bit... I did 295's and it worked until I got the lfit on.

nioce thing about the 20's is that you could upgrade the brakes down the road to Stoptech's oir Brembos..... something I'm still debating.

Congrats on the rig - will repsond to the PM in a bit.

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[TeCKis300]

Thanks Fasternfaster. Yes, 305/55/20 can be done! No rubbing at all after the nip and tuck here and there. Refer to the links posted by Fasternfaster above.

I originally was planning on 295/55/20s. They would most definitely be an easier fit. Though there's not many tires offered in that size. In the end, I went 305s for a few reasons. The big 20"ers sit pretty flush against the sidewalls with 285s. I wanted the wheels inset as much as possible so they're not as exposed. I wanted more sidewall, and the only way to do that with a given wheel size is more diameter. And heck, my LX470 had 305s on 18s. My opinion, but I prefer the hunkered down look of meaty tires.

My stock LX570 wheels are 20x8.5 +60. So seems those TRDs are similar in dimension. You'll need 1" spacers in front for sure, but preferably all around to keep the track the same. The LX doesn't have KDSS to worry about, but I imagine a 1" spacer will keep these tires off the KDSS mechanism as well.

Really loving the setup. As much as I love fat donuts on small wheels, this setup is better for the 99% street driving I do. Steering is still very accurate and precise, with lots of cornering grip. Yet now I've got some real A/Ts in load E that I don't have to give a second thought to about punctures and road conditions. I know you're asking more about size, but I'd highly recommend you look into Falken A/T3Ws. Aggressive tire with great manners.

Bonus - 305/55/20 will even fit as a spare with minor tweaks.

Don't have many pics yet but here are a couple:

 

[sPaulp]

Thanks Fasternfaster. Yes, 305/55/20 can be done! No rubbing at all after the nip and tuck here and there. Refer to the links posted by Fasternfaster above.

I originally was planning on 295/55/20s. They would most definitely be an easier fit. Though there's not many tires offered in that size. In the end, I went 305s for a few reasons. The big 20"ers sit pretty flush against the sidewalls with 285s. I wanted the wheels inset as much as possible so they're not as exposed. I wanted more sidewall, and the only way to do that with a given wheel size is more diameter. And heck, my LX470 had 305s on 18s. My opinion, but I prefer the hunkered down look of meaty tires.

My stock LX570 wheels are 20x8.5 +60. So seems those TRDs are similar in dimension. You'll need 1" spacers in front for sure, but preferably all around to keep the track the same. The LX doesn't have KDSS to worry about, but I imagine a 1" spacer will keep these tires off the KDSS mechanism as well.

Really loving the setup. As much as I love fat donuts on small wheels, this setup is better for the 99% street driving I do. Steering is still very accurate and precise, with lots of cornering grip. Yet now I've got some real A/Ts in load E that I don't have to give a second thought to about punctures and road conditions. I know you're asking more about size, but I'd highly recommend you look into Falken A/T3Ws. Aggressive tire with great manners.

Bonus - 305/55/20 will even fit as a spare with minor tweaks.

Don't have many pics yet but here are a couple:

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Thanks so much for the reply. So, that I am 100% crystal clear, are you saying the 295/55/20's will work without a lift and no trimming? Or will I still need a spacer with that size as well? I am looking at the Nitto Ridge Grappler in that size which is 32.78" tall and 11.61". Thanks for the clarification.

You're rig looks great btw!!

 

[TeCKis300]

No lift required, even in my setup. When I mean spacers, it was a 1" wheel spacer to push the wheel outward from the suspension.

For a 295/55/20, I believe you may be just fine stock without any trimming, spacers, or anything. It'll be really close. There's no corresponding size entry in the wheel/tire database on this particular 295/55/20 size, but there's a few similar overall dimension sizes. guel (username in the table below), with a 285/65/R18 would approximate yours and he reports no fitment issues.

 

[gaijin]

guel (username in the table below), with a 285/65/R18 would approximate yours and he reports no fitment issues.View attachment 1412771

guel also states 2" lift ...

 

[sPaulp]

I noticed that too! I just checked and apparently my wheels have a 40mm offset. Since I'm not educated when it comes to wheels offset terminology, does the 40mm offset hurt or help me? And, is it a fair assumption that more than likely the 295/55's will rub? I already ordered the tires, so fingers crossed.

Edit: I just noticed the overall width listed on Nittos website for the 295/55/20's is 12.17".

 

[TeCKis300]

guel also states 2" lift ...

Certainly good to point out. I mentioned this elsewhere, but I don't buy into the theory (on our IFS platform) that lift provides clearance. Nor does Slee from this post:

Lift does not provide more tire size clearance. It only changes the starting point where the suspension starts cycling from. There are some minor exceptions to this and that is when you use the adjustable UCA's and bottom eccentrics to move the wheel position forward or backswards in the wheelwell.

Does not matter if you cheat the ACH, if it is a Tacoma whatever Toyota IFS, when the wheel is compressed it is pretty much in the same spot for a lifted vs non lifted vehicle unless the lenght of the A-arms are changed, or bump stops changed.

 

[TeCKis300]

I noticed that too! I just checked and apparently my wheels have a 40mm offset. Since I'm not educated when it comes to wheels offset terminology, does the 40mm offset hurt or help me? And, is it a fair assumption that more than likely the 295/55's will rub? I already ordered the tires, so fingers crossed.

Edit: I just noticed the overall width listed on Nittos website for the 295/55/20's is 12.17".

The stars magically aligned for you. 40mm offset is perfect for that added tire width.

I'd say go for it and it'll look great. Many others run a larger size than that and it works. At worse, you'll have to do some really quick and easy adjustments which are well documented.

 

[sPaulp]

Update: I just found out my wheels are 20X9 +40mm. So, again I apologize for being wheel uneducated but will the 9" wheel width help/hurt me considering the +40mm offset?

 

[Hoffdaddy]

sorry I'm jumping in late ... TeCKis300, you stated that 40mm offset is perfect for the 295/55/20 ... there is only one aftemkt rim I like at a +38mm offset and it has been discontinued, there are quite a few +35 +30 and +18's out there I like ... I have calculated the variance to OEM setup eight ways to sunday for those offsets and can't find any potential rubbing issue ... thoughts ? ... also can you or anyone confirm the bolt pattern for a 2010 LC, OEM research is split between 5x150 and 5x5.5". thx

 

[TeCKis300]

Update: I just found out my wheels are 20X9 +40mm. So, again I apologize for being wheel uneducated but will the 9" wheel width help/hurt me considering the +40mm offset?

9" will be fine. This really only pushes the lip of the wheel 6.3mm further inside and out, relative to a 8.5" wheel. Where the tread sits on a 9" will functionally be the same as a 8.5" wheel. There's enough clearance all around that there shouldn't be a fitment issue.

sorry I'm jumping in late ... TeCKis300, you stated that 40mm offset is perfect for the 295/55/20 ... there is only one aftemkt rim I like at a +38mm offset and it has been discontinued, there are quite a few +35 +30 and +18's out there I like ... I have calculated the variance to OEM setup eight ways to sunday for those offsets and can't find any potential rubbing issue ... thoughts ? ... also can you or anyone confirm the bolt pattern for a 2010 LC, OEM research is split between 5x150 and 5x5.5". thx

40mm is in the great range, but so is +38 and to a lesser degree +35 onto +30. I personally think +18 start getting into the undesirable offset category as it starts poking the wheel past the fender out too much, starts messing with the steering geometry (scrub radius), and does cause some clearance issues as the tire turns (swings as much as it pivots). It comes down to that 60mm is the designed optimal wheel offset. 50mm is perfect (rock warriors) for ~33" tires. There some leeway beyond that to fit larger/wider tires, but it does get to a point that it starts to become a compromise.

5x150mm is the correct PCD of the bolt pattern you want.

 

[Hoffdaddy]

TeCKis300 ... awesome, just what I needed. This 200 series rig is a daily driver for the wif (for now ) and I am not looking to lift, just a +2 with zero rubbing and zero cutting. Will be working on a 99' 100 series soon. Thanks again

 

[Hoffdaddy]

been researching the suspension differences between models and years ... so a 200 series LC has KDSS but not AHC and 100 series LC has AHC ?

 

[TeCKis300]

In the 200-series, KDSS is exclusive to the LC and AHC is exclusive to the LX respectively.

In the 100-series, later years of the generation had an option to get AHC in place of the standard suspension on the LC.

 

[sPaulp]

One of these sets of tires WILL be on my 200 by tomorrow high noon. Both myself and my cat prefer the look of the slightly bigger (.4") height and (1") wider Nitto Ridge Grappler. However, as they sit in my house, they look realllllly wide lol. Therefore, the Falkens may be the only way to go. I measured the Nittos from top outer edge to edge and its just over 12". The falken is just over 11". I feel that I may have to remove my fender flares as every mm will count tomorrow morning

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