Aux Fuel Tank, the last Mod I want . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . OK this month

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Forrest Murphy said:
After taking the leap with excel aux tank- my opinion the long ranger would work just as well, maybe even better with slight modification in the installation process. My only issue I have with excell is filling the tanks is a little bit process especially when using a pump at a station that does not have vapor recovery system. In these cases I have to wait for the air to escape from the system to continue filling the tanks around the 24-gallon mark, when the main read 1/4 I normally add around 30 gallons, adds a couple of minutes to the fueling process. A small sacrifice to have a 450 plus HWY range. As far as the EVAP relocation, I found a proven method that does not require extending the wiring harness or the plumbing hoses. I have not really have any issues to report and passed emissions with out issue.

From what it looks like the Longranger as designed right now would actually introduce a leak into the evap system in the USA models that is why I went with the excel. We have an active evap system in the US while the rest of world seems to a passive evap system. What I mean by active one that runs test cycles under defined parameters to meet clear air regs. The URJ200 us spec runs an evap test when the main tank is between 3/4 and 1/4 full and under a certain pattern of drive conditions, it tests both pressure retention and vacuum of the closed loop system.

With experience with the installing the excell and reviewing the long ranger youtube and written installation instructions- The issue I see with the long ranger system the transfer pump is not valve and will result in introducing an air leak into the system. I would hypothesize one could use the Long Ranger with a slightly different installation approach. -

1) follow the excel tank process of installing the gravity fuel fill into the main tank, which means dropping the main and install a threaded fuel hose connector, connting this to the Long Ranger Fuel transfere pump 2) install a fuel solenoid value as close you can to the fuel fill point on the main-

The theory of operation is the solenoid will close system when fuel is not being transferred and truly isolate the main from the aux system. Before fuel transfer, one one would flip the switch to open the fuel solenoid, and then flip the switch once the fuel transfer is complete to close the valve and hence the evap system. Having separate fuel fills would speed the filling process, and one could use the aussie EVAP canister to have a passive vapor collection from the aux tank.
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Good and interesting info. So you're saying the big question is whether the LR supplied pump seals the hose in the "off" position in order for the system to pressurize properly? Just speculation, but if there's fuel behind and after the pump in line of the transfer, the pump wouldn't leak air. Maybe though. Once this house sells I might just end up purchasing one to see if I can make it work. Assuming I have funds after my gear/locker installation.
 
I'd love to be able to drive further on a single tank, but the sane part of me just votes for a few rotopax containers. Comparatively cheap and no evap system issues or CELs to worry about. As much as I'd love to drive more than 2.5 hours before needing to stop when I'm towing, I've found if I don't force my kids to use the bathroom every 2-3 hours they end up requiring an interim stop anyway. I've actually been more heavily considering a water tank in the spare area for future overlanding.
 
Here's an email I received from LR. The 60L is 15 gallons, figure that's about an extra 200+ mile range added. The big bastard 170L is an additional 45 gallons, that's 600+ ADDITIONAL mile range. The only issue I see with the big one is (besides the added 350# in fuel and metal behind the axle) is it hangs a tad low for the wheeling I do. Still higher than a spare tire would be in that location though.

I wish there was something in between like the 90L but for some reason it won't fit. I'm waiting to hear why he (she?) didn't give me a quote for that one.

But around $1600 shipped isn't awful.

Edit: looks like Long Range Automotive and Long Ranger are two different companies. Waiting to hear back from Long Ranger.

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Thanks Tony,



We can supply you with 2 different tanks to suit your 200 series



A TLC200SA which is a 60lt auxiliary tank for $1500.00 AUD or

A TLC200RA which is a 170lt auxiliary tank which will require you to relocate your spare wheel for $1550.00 AUD.

Plus around $500.00 AUD for freight over to you in the States.

Please be aware of the following,

International buyers--PLEASE CAREFULLY NOTE:

a) Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping and handling. These charges are the buyer’s responsibility.

b) Please check with your country’s customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to buying.

Please contact us if you have any further questions or enquires.

Regards,

Taigue Fountain I Sales Manager
 
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think they'd do a group buy discount of some sort? seems to be some interest here even with the install issues to overcome
 
RussBow6 said:
think they'd do a group buy discount of some sort? seems to be some interest here even with the install issues to overcome
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Possibly.
Depends on what tank people wanted which would determine what company to go through.

This is really the only one I'd be interested in since it doesn't hang below the frame rails but still doubles the range.

90L Auxiliary Hi Clearance Fuel Tank | The Long Ranger
 
I'd love a 20+ gallon option...... after our recent flooding the lack of fuel was daunting.....
 
nice! he's in FL and says he's shut down until further notice but I am happy to call him once he does open and at least start the process
 
I see the Long Ranger is advertised on arb.com.au maybe you could order it from a dealer in the states and save some money on shipping and maybe on the tank itself?

I'd also love to have more range when I'm towing the camper.

@cruiseroutfit
 
ckkone said:
I see the Long Ranger is advertised on arb.com.au maybe you could order it from a dealer in the states and save some money on shipping and maybe on the tank itself?

I'd also love to have more range when I'm towing the camper.

@cruiseroutfit
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TonyP said:
Yup, already PM'd Kurt.
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We have tried in the past and I did a hail mary call again and they simply won't do them as they would have to add them to the US parts system and with it being a non-DOT part, they can't/won't entertain it. That said Long Ranger can/will ship a single or several tanks on a pallet and they make it through customs with no affair.

Brown Davis and other Aussie manufactures are looking to build a tank for the US specific application. They may be stopping here in SLC before or after SEMA for me to show them the museum and more importantly some of the US applications.
 
cruiseroutfit said:
We have tried in the past and I did a hail mary call again and they simply won't do them as they would have to add them to the US parts system and with it being a non-DOT part, they can't/won't entertain it. That said Long Ranger can/will ship a single or several tanks on a pallet and they make it through customs with no affair.

Brown Davis and other Aussie manufactures are looking to build a tank for the US specific application. They may be stopping here in SLC before or after SEMA for me to show them the museum and more importantly some of the US applications.
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thanks kurt. So maybe we have some news/update by Thanksgiving? Christmas presents for all of us??
 
RussBow6 said:
thanks kurt. So maybe we have some news/update by Thanksgiving? Christmas presents for all of us??
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I'm not sure what their timeline is but I'd love to see a sample for test fit late in the year.
 
I am not a few minutes away, but I could be :D
 
lol, we are not exactly devoid of 200's around these parts but the offers are appreciated :D
 
Here's an email I got from The Long Ranger guy. Not sure how many will be interested but I'm planning on getting one within the next couple of months.

Who's interested?

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Hi Tony,

A customer sales staff member has replied to your enquiry, #915020 with the following response:


Always looking for group buys - come back to me with some numbers and I will look at pricing - at the moment

70 L is $1620.00 AUD

90 L is $1690.00 AUD

180 L is $1760.00 AUD

Please note that these prices do not include any import duties / taxes or freight.

Dave
 
I would sign up in a heart beat if I was sure I could get it installed. I asked Slee and he said he wouldnt do it as you never can get the emissions stuff just right and it would likely throw codes. I did install the aux tank in my 80- by myself. Didnt have to worry about the canister though

Ahh hell. I'm in for a 90L

Maybe Kurt will want one and then I would have a reason to drive over to cruiseroutfitters :D
 
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