PabloCruise
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Anyone ever use car wash soap as bubble bath?
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The other way around makes more sense, since i used AXE shower gel i cant get rid of all the chicks that come running to my rig. 
gonzopancho
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There was an incident that involved me cleaning an intake manifold using solvent and then spilling it in my lap 40 plus years ago.
I spent some quality time soaking in the bathtub that evening. Had to drive home first.
not recommended.
I spent some quality time soaking in the bathtub that evening. Had to drive home first.
not recommended.
PabloCruise
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The other way around makes more sense, since i used AXE shower gel i cant get rid of all the chicks that come running to my rig.
You’re going to need a hamper.
@TachedOutOffRoad can hook you up!
bobm
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Thought it was the same stuff 
gonzopancho
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To be semi-serious, the surficants and concentrations are different: SLES (Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulphate), and Dodecylbenzene sulphonic acid (neutralised with Sodium Hydroxide, Triethanolamine or Isopropanolamine) are used in dish soaps and some of the car wash soaps I’ve looked up. ALS (ammonium lauryl sulphate) tends to be used In bath products, because it’s less irritating, especially to, ahem, delicate skin.
There may be a difference in the amount of salt (often used to inexpensively bump viscosity) and likely the fragrances and dyes will be different.
Most shampoos contain ammonium lauryl sulphate and one of its molecular sidekicks, ammonium laureth sulphate. This is the suracant that actually cleans your hair of the oils and accumulated dirt, dead skin flakes, lice eggs.
But there is a lot of other crap that the industry adds
Consumers value shininess in nearly everything, including hair. For hair to shine, the cuticles of the hair must lie flat. Imagine a strand of hair as a stack of flimsy paper cups. When all the lips of the cup, called imbrications, lie flat, hair shines. Dull hair has the cups' lips sticking up. To get imbrications to lie flat, hair needs to be exposed to mildly acidic substances, so substances like citric acid are added to make the imbrications lie down and give hair a shiny look.
Consumers believe that thick is better, so manufacturers often add ingredients thicken the soap. Thickness also guarantees that people use more shampoo than necessary. To do the work, brands use sub like: salt, glycol distearate, cetyl alcohol, ammonium xylene sulfonate and others.
Foaming agents are sometimes used. Chemicals like cocamide MEA, which is quite toxic, and sometimes the plastic PEG-7M are used to sustain the suds once they’ve foamed.
net-net: you might be better off with a car wash detergent, but the SLS/SLES induced irritation might be a factor to consider.
There may be a difference in the amount of salt (often used to inexpensively bump viscosity) and likely the fragrances and dyes will be different.
Most shampoos contain ammonium lauryl sulphate and one of its molecular sidekicks, ammonium laureth sulphate. This is the suracant that actually cleans your hair of the oils and accumulated dirt, dead skin flakes, lice eggs.
But there is a lot of other crap that the industry adds
Consumers value shininess in nearly everything, including hair. For hair to shine, the cuticles of the hair must lie flat. Imagine a strand of hair as a stack of flimsy paper cups. When all the lips of the cup, called imbrications, lie flat, hair shines. Dull hair has the cups' lips sticking up. To get imbrications to lie flat, hair needs to be exposed to mildly acidic substances, so substances like citric acid are added to make the imbrications lie down and give hair a shiny look.
Consumers believe that thick is better, so manufacturers often add ingredients thicken the soap. Thickness also guarantees that people use more shampoo than necessary. To do the work, brands use sub like: salt, glycol distearate, cetyl alcohol, ammonium xylene sulfonate and others.
Foaming agents are sometimes used. Chemicals like cocamide MEA, which is quite toxic, and sometimes the plastic PEG-7M are used to sustain the suds once they’ve foamed.
net-net: you might be better off with a car wash detergent, but the SLS/SLES induced irritation might be a factor to consider.
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Gonzo, you know way too much about soap suds. 
PabloCruise
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This is actual useful info!
I did hear that the foaming agents are known to be nasty...
So it sounds like shampoo is likely to be more acidic than a car was detergent, eh?
gonzopancho
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Thanks.
In addition to my early love of chemistry ((three years of chem in high school, and my first year in college I was a chem major), often expressed via low-velocity “propulsion” events), I think I’ve discussed that the family business when I was growing up was water well drilling, and these foaming agents are used in “air drilling” to help bring the cuttings out of the hole, rather than depending just on the velocity and volume of air sent downhole.
I think there are other (former?) well drillers in the sty.
These foaming agents are great at making suds or “foam”, but aren’t very good at washing (acting as a surfactant.)
On the other hand, most laundry (and dishwashing machine) detergents have “anti-foaming” substances added, for the obvious reason. This is why the old “dump a box of Tide in a fountain”doesn’t do much.
However, 20 gallons of drilling foam concentrate in a fountain at one’s alma mater can make for a spectacular display. Especially at night, when it’s cold, so the foam lasts longer.
Not that I’m admitting to anything.
Yup. The salts aren’t good for the paint or metal either.
bobm
WTF, WTF, WTF!!!!
Know Wonder why my BALLS are itchy 
gonzopancho
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Know Wonder why my BALLS are itchy
Allegedly...
Gets my vote for weirdest thread title ever!
Pigeaten
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we do go off on some weird tangents
RUSH55
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Love that Joker!
Wait,,,,,,, so your telling me we're supposed to wash them?
RUSH55
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Not unless you like cheese.
PabloCruise
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These sound like some solid shenanigans!
PabloCruise
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gonzopancho
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Nobody asked about cocamide monoethanolamine (MEA). It's derived from coconut oil, and was sold as a "natural ingredient". It also has a close cousin, cocamide diethanolamine (DEA) which is classified as a Group 2B carcinogen, and is one the list of known carcinogens in California Proposition 65. You may want to check for these in your car wash soap prior to bathing in it:
• Coconut diethanolamide
• Alkanolamide of coconut oil fatty acids and diethanolamine
• Amides, N,N-bis(hydroxyethyl) coco
• CCRIS 4601
• Coco diethanolamides
• Coconut DEA
• Coconut fatty acid amide of diethanolamine
• Coconut fatty acid diethanolamine condensate • Coconut oil acids, diethanolamine condensate
• Coconut oil amide, N,N-bis(2-hydroxyethyl)-
• Coconut oil fatty acid diethanolamide
• Coconut oil, diethanolamide
• Diethanolamine, coconut fatty acids condensate • EINECS 271-657-0
• HSDB 4209
• N,N-Bis(2-hydroxyethyl)cocoamide
• N,N-Bis(2-hydroxyethyl)coconut fatty acid amide • N,N-Bis(2-hydroxyethyl)coconut oil amide
• N,N-Bis(hydroxyethyl) coco amide
• NCI-C55312
• (Coco alkyl)diethanolamides
• Cocoyl diethanolamide
For example, Meguiar's G177 - Ultimate Wash & Wax contains cocamide DEA.
The National Library of Medicine at the National Institute of Health used to host a Household Products Database, which was discontinued in 2018.
The page now points to an archived version of the former site.
Household Products Database - National Library of Medicinewww.nlm.nih.gov › pubs › factsheets › householdprod...
Sorry that I ruined the fun.
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