Aftermarket Wheel Thread (non Toyota, non TRD) (3 Viewers)

[linuxgod]

I agree and I limited my choices too much.
You don't even really see much difference in fuel consumption all things considered and driven highway.
While i dont mind saving money on gas, range is something i dont want to compromise AT ALL.

Also, if you've got the bigger front brakes, you may as well just disregard weight (almost).
Given that AHC is present, you still don't want to overwhelm your shocks though even if it doesn't hurt to add some weight over stock.
I would be stoked to see some aftermarket ahc shocks come along. Or a rebuild/retool kit or something for them.

Tires are absolutely the ultimate factor like you said and if you have your brand of choice then the rest of the decisions are relatively easy.
Its finding the wheels that are a pain in the ass. Most here have either suboptimal offset or spacers. Both have issues depending who you ask.

Ideally my next setup would be an 18x9 +35 anything 30lbs or under on the 53 lb 275/70r18 toyo AT3.
(Or a Ridge Grappler / KO2 both of which are better looking designs than the toyo, both of which are 58 lbs.)
Bigger wheel, bigger tire, more optimal offset. Still right around the target weight to retain the normal damping rates of AHC.

I used to be super weary of LTs too until recently and now i wont hesitate to go to an E load. They are perfectly acceptable at the right pressures even for a comfort snob like me. If even one interior panel is shaking or rattling on bumps im not interested.
The LTs are not earth shatteringly, teeth jarringly stiff if you don't inflate them for a non existent load.

Another big OCD thing i have with tires is the sidewall integration. The KO2 looks like the only tire on the market which is molded with a truly integrated sidewall lug structure. Everything else has a mold delineating the tread and sidewall and looks off to me as if it were a two piece, (which they most likely are).

Tire and wheel weight shouldn't affect AHC. They are unsprung weight

I love my Nitto RGs but they are heavy

I would not go to an E load on an oversized tire unless you tow very heavy or you spend a lot of time offroad and are worried about a sidewall puncture. C load is good to 50 psi which in most cases will support more weight than your wheels are rated to carry.

 

[AnyMal]

Tire and wheel weight shouldn't affect AHC. They are unsprung weight

There are some complications with AHC in regards to wheel weight but its more of perfectionism than actual problem.
You do notice it if you're a stickler like i am and there is definitely a sweet spot between not actuating the shock enough, and the weight translating into to much force.
It shows up as comfort to sport having less granularity or little to no influence. Theres a lot more there than just that and load in particular has a massive impact on AHC.
The heavier the better it seems to me.

I love my Nitto RGs but they are heavy

Yeah... RG are an awesome looking tire and supposedly the most quiet of the bunch but they are chunky bois for sure. I really want to try them out on my truck but im happy at the moment.

I would not go to an E load on an oversized tire unless you tow very heavy or you spend a lot of time offroad and are worried about a sidewall puncture. C load is good to 50 psi which in most cases will support more weight than your wheels are rated to carry.

Thats a great point on wheels i haven't made personally yet to not be rude since so many are on E loads on wheels that cant match!
They are overkill for most uses and the sidewalls are not reason enough for me to justify it but i think everyone knows that.
I just meant that i wouldn't be as scared to do so as i once was since its by far the most common tire variant in our viable sizes.

This is turning into tire talk which i can do all day but ill end with you on that note C is the perfect middle ground at least for me.
I wouldnt go to anything else if i can help it. Thats why i like the C load BFGs if i had to do something other than my Toyos in a "33".

 

[Sverige]

I put FN FxPro wheels on my truck in 18x9 with +25 offset. Running 305/65R18 KO2s with a lift and super happy with them. I went with matte black, but they are available in a couple other nice looking colors, and I think there is also a 18x8.5 +20 option.

 

[calixto]

FYI Method 313's still showing for sale in a 17x8.5 et 25 in gloss titanium on Amazon FWIW. Pretty expensive though. Think I am going to pull the trigger on a set of the new Method 705's. Can't decide if I want to keep my 17" tires and go 17x8.5 et 35 or get new tires and go 18x9 et 25. Definitely cheaper to stick with my 285/70/17 BFG KO2's but I like a little bit more offset of the et 25.

Amazon product ASIN B07NLCBWM7
Method 705

705 | Matte Black

The 705 Bead Grip® wheel features a bold split 5-spoke, 10 windowed design with adventure and exploration in mind. It has been developed to handle the toughest trails, roughest deserts, or your next overland adventure. The Bead Grip® technology allows deflation of tires down to pressures that...

www.methodracewheels.com

 

[AnyMal]

FYI Method 313's still showing for sale in a 17x8.5 et 25 in gloss titanium on Amazon FWIW. Pretty expensive though. Think I am going to pull the trigger on a set of the new Method 705's. Can't decide if I want to keep my 17" tires and go 17x8.5 et 35 or get new tires and go 18x9 et 25. Definitely cheaper to stick with my 285/70/17 BFG KO2's but I like a little bit more offset of the et 25.

Amazon product ASIN B07NLCBWM7
Method 705

705 | Matte Black

The 705 Bead Grip® wheel features a bold split 5-spoke, 10 windowed design with adventure and exploration in mind. It has been developed to handle the toughest trails, roughest deserts, or your next overland adventure. The Bead Grip® technology allows deflation of tires down to pressures that...

www.methodracewheels.com

17s definitely seem to have the most variety and better tire options. I like 18s mostly for aesthetic reasons and cleaning etc. There are a ton of options in +25 for either wheel size. Don’t forget about icon, and even some black rhino stuff.

I’m getting ready to install new mud guards and we’re it not for that aspect, definitely +25 with my mild lift is the perfect amount of “poke”.

I tried to make a stance thread a while back but I’m the only person on mud that cares how things look and it didn’t really take. We need nice full front profile stance picture threads.

 

[VooDoo2]

Nothin quite like a Method 305NV HD in 18" +25 offset and 35's

 

[CarcaineProblems]

Method Race Wheels FTW!

 

[AnyMal]

Nothin quite like a Method 305NV HD in 18" +25 offset and 35's

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+1 for fenders. I like fender flares!

 

[linuxgod]

17s definitely seem to have the most variety and better tire options. I like 18s mostly for aesthetic reasons and cleaning etc. There are a ton of options in +25 for either wheel size. Don’t forget about icon, and even some black rhino stuff.

I’m getting ready to install new mud guards and we’re it not for that aspect, definitely +25 with my mild lift is the perfect amount of “poke”.

I tried to make a stance thread a while back but I’m the only person on mud that cares how things look and it didn’t really take. We need nice full front profile stance picture threads.

Yeah I went with 17s instead of 18s for this reason. At the time there were only 2 or 3 options for a 34" tire in an 18" wheel and I think all were M/Ts, but there were tons of 34" options for a 17" wheel.

I run +25 offset and I'm happy with it. I think anything from +18 to +35 can work with most 285 or 11.5" width tires. You'll trade off a tad of handling squirrelliness at the edge (hard acceleration or braking) the lower offset you go in exchange for more suspension component clearance and a bit of poke. If you want wider tires like 305 or 12.5" wide then you do start to worry about fender clearance during low speed offroad driving (e.g. hard turn, one wheel extended and the other compressed)

 

[AnyMal]

Yeah I went with 17s instead of 18s for this reason. At the time there were only 2 or 3 options for a 34" tire in an 18" wheel and I think all were M/Ts, but there were tons of 34" options for a 17" wheel.

I run +25 offset and I'm happy with it. I think anything from +18 to +35 can work with most 285 or 11.5" width tires. You'll trade off a tad of handling squirrelliness at the edge (hard acceleration or braking) the lower offset you go in exchange for more suspension component clearance and a bit of poke. If you want wider tires like 305 or 12.5" wide then you do start to worry about fender clearance during low speed offroad driving (e.g. hard turn, one wheel extended and the other compressed)

This is it if anyone wants to see how it looks. Pre lift and realignment. Ill get some new shots in there to revive it.
I know a lot of people are interested in seeing this its just not a popular topic on MUD.

unOfficial Stance Thread

Hey Mud members, Ive been meaning to do this for a while and always put it off. I think it would super useful and interesting to see photos of our various wheel/tire fitments. Please post your stance photos and give everyone your specs. Ill go first. '17 LX on +25 17x8.5s. Running Toyo AT3...

forum.ih8mud.com

Thats all at +25 and is JUUUUUST outside the wheel well. Anything more than that to me is a bit over the top in aggressiveness.
Theres been a couple times aerodynamics were brought up but i don't know how much it really matters on this whale.
Thus far, with bigger tires and lift and removing front wheel air dams, ive barely noticed a ding in efficiency.

 

[Air Down Gear Up]

Icon Vector 5

• 17in diameter, 8.5in width, 25mm offest
• 30pounds

Toyo open country AT3 285/75/17

Only had this set up for a few weeks but loving it so far! More details on making it all fit on my build thread: 2016 LX570 Air Down Gear Up build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/2016-lx570-air-down-gear-up-build.1263324/

 

[DesmoPilot]

Alpha Equipt offers great fitment for the LC200. I am running the Command in 17x8.5 +35mm.

 

[AnyMal]

Icon Vector 5

• 17in diameter, 8.5in width, 25mm offest
• 30pounds

Toyo open country AT3 285/75/17

Only had this set up for a few weeks but loving it so far! More details on making it all fit on my build thread: 2016 LX570 Air Down Gear Up build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/2016-lx570-air-down-gear-up-build.1263324/

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Seen your thread mate, looking great even though i am not into bronze.
That wheel is a PERFECT visual match the '16+ LX body lines and design. Fantastic choice bro.
If theres one design motif in that refresh its aggressive pointed angled parallels LOL. Theres not a single curve anywhere on the body.
I really deliberated on that one. Good job, though they still look small to me .

Youve got my exact fitment plus one tire size up. Ive seen where you did have to trim some metal but more power to you. Have more guts than i do!
Why dont you do a sensor lift? It will make everything more proportional.

BTW Get you a spare protector i made a thread about yesterday, it will fit snug on your 285/75 and stop the marring from the subframe bars.
Shame to trash that full size 5th.

Alpha Equipt offers great fitment for the LC200. I am running the Command in 17x8.5 +35mm.
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Did not know about that one thanks! This is just about as good as it gets for offroad focused builds.
I would LOVE if you could get us a pic dead on front tire profile. We do not see enough +35s.

 

[DesmoPilot]

Seen your thread mate, looking great even though i am not into bronze.
That wheel is a PERFECT visual match the '16+ LX body lines and design. Fantastic choice bro.
If theres one design motif in that refresh its aggressive pointed angled parallels LOL. Theres not a single curve anywhere on the body.
I really deliberated on that one. Good job, though they still look small to me .

Youve got my exact fitment plus one tire size up. Ive seen where you did have to trim some metal but more power to you. Have more guts than i do!
Why dont you do a sensor lift? It will make everything more proportional.

BTW Get you a spare protector i made a thread about yesterday, it will fit snug on your 285/75 and stop the marring from the subframe bars.
Shame to trash that full size 5th.



Did not know about that one thanks! This is just about as good as it gets for offroad focused builds.
I would LOVE if you could get us a pic dead on front tire profile. We do not see enough +35s.

 

[AnyMal]

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Its perfectly flush lol. NICE bro! Resurrect my thread with that pic please!

 

[mdh384]

Here are the alphaequipt command 17x8.5 in the +15 offset. They’re just proud of the fender. The grey is on close out on tire rack for $158 right now. I went lower offset to get the tire out of the swaybar on the RF corner, but did have to massage the front mud flap with a heat gun running 285/70/17 KO2s. A +25 offset would probably be a happy medium, if it were available. Other than the front mudflap I’ve had no rubbing at full stuff front or rear.

 

[DesmoPilot]

Here are the alphaequipt command 17x8.5 in the +15 offset. They’re just proud of the fender. The grey is on close out on tire rack for $158 right now. I went lower offset to get the tire out of the swaybar on the RF corner, but did have to massage the front mud flap with a heat gun running 285/70/17 KO2s. A +25 offset would probably be a happy medium, if it were available. Other than the front mudflap I’ve had no rubbing at full stuff front or rear.

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Looks great. I just ordered 3 of the +15mm wheels a few minutes ago to put on trailer.

I don't have any rubbing at all with the +35mm version and 285/75-17 AT3s.

 

[terdrocket]

Here are the alphaequipt command 17x8.5 in the +15 offset. They’re just proud of the fender. The grey is on close out on tire rack for $158 right now. I went lower offset to get the tire out of the swaybar on the RF corner, but did have to massage the front mud flap with a heat gun running 285/70/17 KO2s. A +25 offset would probably be a happy medium, if it were available. Other than the front mudflap I’ve had no rubbing at full stuff front or rear.

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I bought 5 of these about a month or so ago on Tire Rack. I paid $177 each. I just had them mounted with new tires. So far so good!

 

[AnyMal]

I bought 5 of these about a month or so ago on Tire Rack. I paid $177 each. I just had them mounted with new tires. So far so good!

Pics or it didnt happen!

 

[MCM78LC]

Icon Vector 5, Satin Black. 17"x8.5", 5 on 150 mm, 25mm backspace.