Aftermarket Wheel Thread (non Toyota, non TRD)

[scottm]

Scanned this thread, not seeing any steel wheels mentioned, unless I missed it. I'm picking up my fourth LC on Tuesday, like previous, it will be mostly highway use, snow country. I'll be going slightly taller and skinnier on the tires, and would love to put them on steel wheels. 18" is good. Keep everything simple.

Are there no aftermarket steel wheels I can use? Tundra wheels? Hub-centric or lug? What about TPMS? I'd love to drive two doors from the dealership to Discount Tire and swap wheels/tires.

 

[Redbull]

Tundra steels come to mind.

 

[calixto]

Running Method Vex 17x8.5 0 offset on KO2's installed by PO with King 2.5's SPC Uppers & adjustable rear panhard. Love the look of the set up, nice poke but mud flaps removed and some trimming. As much as I love the look I am going to do to a better offset for better function. The new Method 703 trail series wheel 17x8.5 BS35 looks really nice & clean but out of stock. Will likely wait for it. Seen lots of Icon Rebounds but anyone running their Compression wheel? 703 | Matte Black - https://www.methodracewheels.com/products/703-matte-black?variant=33034699243581

 

[bemerritt]

Running Method Vex 17x8.5 0 offset on KO2's installed by PO with King 2.5's SPC Uppers & adjustable rear panhard. Love the look of the set up, nice poke but mud flaps removed and some trimming. As much as I love the look I am going to do to a better offset for better function. The new Method 703 trail series wheel 17x8.5 BS35 looks really nice & clean but out of stock. Will likely wait for it. Seen lots of Icon Rebounds but anyone running their Compression wheel? 703 | Matte Black - https://www.methodracewheels.com/products/703-matte-black?variant=33034699243581

I'm torn between getting more Rock Warriors for my trailer or to wait for the 703's and swap everything over. Method said August for the 703's. We will see if i have the patience.

 

[calixto]

August, Dang! Think I'll still wait. They do have them available in gold in correct offset now but...yeah gold wheels Saw a set in person today on a black truck & they seemed pretty nice. Would prefer Method over Icons.

 

[akgerman]

Ok. I've read through the 14 pages of this thread and I have a question that I haven't found the answer to. I'll be running stock suspension for three or four months, then installing the BP-51s. I'd like to put on 285/70r17 KO2s and 17" wheels now, before the lift. I've got a quote on Dakarzeros but bronze ships in 12 weeks. I don't like the look of the PCORs and they really seem unattainable right now anyway. I'd like find a 17x8 or 8.5, 5x150, 110mm with a 35mm+ offset (40 or 50 preferred), but that's hard to do with out coming back to the RWs every time.

So here's my question. If I run the 285/70r17 KO2s on 17x8.5 with a 25mm offset (no spacers) will I have fitment issues or rubbing before or after the BP-51 install? Would the tires rub on the fenders at full articulation? A 25mm offset in aftermarket wheels are pretty available but do they cause other problems I would have to solve?

what did you end up doing? I slapped the BFG 285/70/17 on yesterday over a Vector 5..just a touch of rubbing on the front side of the front tire liners.

 

[calixto]

Anybody running the Method 703's yet? Any pics? Curios to see offset pics. Will be coming from zero offset and want to pick a set up. They are still on back order.

 

[bemerritt]

Anybody running the Method 703's yet? Any pics? Curios to see offset pics. Will be coming from zero offset and want to pick a set up. They are still on back order.

Also plan on getting them once off back order. Last I heard was august.

 

[quattro guy]

Also plan on getting them once off back order. Last I heard was august.

I just tried to order bronze 703's in 17" ET35 and was told 8 weeks. Bummer. I'm reconsidering Icon Rebounds at the moment.

 

[calixto]

I just tried to order bronze 703's in 17" ET35 and was told 8 weeks. Bummer. I'm reconsidering Icon Rebounds at the moment.

Same delima here but considering Icon Compression. Really want to see pics of the 703's poke before waiting another 8 weeks. Would prefer 25 vs the 703's 35 offset however I prefer Method wheels over Icon, no fake bead lock & the gimicky "internal beadlock" sounds interesting. I did speak with the guys at Icon & they said they sell or you can paint the fake bead lock gold screws on their wheels. I replaced the ones on my Method Vex wheels with black studs & they look way better.

 

[calixto]

Anybody running Method 313's? 17x8.5 25 offset. Nice looking/spec wheel! Same load rating as most of the Methods but only 23lbs. Kinda pricey. 313 | Matte Black - https://www.methodracewheels.com/products/313-matte-black?variant=13607842414653

 

[highfructose]

Anybody running Method 313's? 17x8.5 25 offset. Nice looking/spec wheel! Same load rating as most of the Methods but only 23lbs. Kinda pricey. 313 | Matte Black - https://www.methodracewheels.com/products/313-matte-black?variant=13607842414653
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So the standard 17’s for a land cruiser were 50mm offset…and these are 25…which means they’re 1” further to the outside of the vehicle?

Does that mean a 2” wider tire would fit and keep the scrub radius appropriate?

if they fit a 285 70 r17 with minimum fuss, then these are a winner IMO. Total weight with tire would be comparable to rock warriors…and these look more understated…and are also available new.

 

[calixto]

Just talked withnMethod, they just discontinued that wheel.

 

[Kurtj29]

Just talked withnMethod, they just discontinued that wheel.

As of today - November 17, 2021 the Method 313's still show as available on the Method website - but my gosh, they are $414 per wheel.

The the 313's show as 24.7lbs per wheel while the 703's show as only 27.6lbs and $330 per wheel. i would go with the 703's. - 17x8.5 with 35mm offset.

 

[AnyMal]

Yup I am.

@ 23.5 lbs MR313 is the lightest 17" here with adequate load capacity. Now discontinued. I have a full set of 5.
With my LT 285/70r17 C Toyo AT IIIs on im just about at OEM fitment weight (80 lbs) and that keeps AHC happy.

Handling is solid but if these were at +35 ET it would be the GOAT wheel IMO for this use case.


Heres a better pic:

 

[Kurtj29]

Yup I am.

@ 23.5 lbs MR313 is the lightest 17" here with adequate load capacity. Now discontinued. I have a full set of 5.
With my LT 285/70r17 C Toyo AT IIIs on im just about at OEM fitment weight (80 lbs) and that keeps AHC happy.

Handling is solid but if these were at +35 ET it would be the GOAT wheel IMO for this use case.


Heres a better pic:
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I called MRW - the 313's are discontinued but they are still in stock. They have 17's in Gloss Titanium but with zero offset and they have black 20's. I was able to put 5 in my shopping cart. So if you want these wheels you can still get them. I guess I will get the 703's since I can get them in 25mm offset.

 

[AnyMal]

I called MRW - the 313's are discontinued but they are still in stock. I was able to put 5 in my shopping cart. So if you want these wheels you can still get them. I am always a little concerned as to why they were discontinued.... Probably too expensive to produce. I think I am still leaning toward the 703's.

Let me tell you man since you are in an LX, if i were to do it all over again i wouldnt hesitate to go to the heavier wheel in what is IMO the perfect offset for this truck when plus sized fitment considered (+35).

I have my truck AHC lifted and some additional weight in each corner would actually improve the ride quality.
If thats in your plans or already done, i wouldn't hesitate to go to the 703. Its still light enough that your brakes wont be of any concern and if they were you can easily do a BBK conversion with either tundra or '16+ LX.

Visually, which is high on my priorities as well, I think +35 with a mild lift on 33" tires looks just about perfect.

When i bought mine, weight was more of a concern than anything else, i dont think i would place so much priority on that next time.

If i ever do buy a new wheel, it will also be an 18", 17s look to small on this size of truck IMO.
There are plenty of options at Method, and their styles are far better than the competition if you asked me.
Some Icons i could also do but most aftermarket wheels look tacky as ****.

RWs i hate the design and chrome lip and hunting for stuff to buy is something i just wont do ever.
I have a rule i dont ever chase after something to spend money on. This isnt the hunger games, yet...

 

[linuxgod]

IMO if you're going with oversized tires, the difference in wheel weight is negligible. 24 vs 27#s is almost a rounding error when your tire weight goes from 42 to 60# or more. Unless you're going to optimize tire weight as well I wouldn't bother as you're still going to notice a performance difference in overall unsprung weight.

 

[AnyMal]

IMO if you're going with oversized tires, the difference in wheel weight is negligible. 24 vs 27#s is almost a rounding error when your tire weight goes from 42 to 60# or more. Unless you're going to optimize tire weight as well I wouldn't bother as you're still going to notice a performance difference in overall unsprung weight.

I agree and I limited my choices too much.
You don't even really see much difference in fuel consumption all things considered and driven highway.
While i dont mind saving money on gas, range is something i dont want to compromise AT ALL.

Also, if you've got the bigger front brakes, you may as well just disregard weight (almost).
Given that AHC is present, you still don't want to overwhelm your shocks though even if it doesn't hurt to add some weight over stock.
I would be stoked to see some aftermarket ahc shocks come along. Or a rebuild/retool kit or something for them.

Tires are absolutely the ultimate factor like you said and if you have your brand of choice then the rest of the decisions are relatively easy.
Its finding the wheels that are a pain in the ass. Most here have either suboptimal offset or spacers. Both have issues depending who you ask.

Ideally my next setup would be an 18x9 +35 anything 30lbs or under on the 53 lb 275/70r18 toyo AT3.
(Or a Ridge Grappler / KO2 both of which are better looking designs than the toyo, both of which are 58 lbs.)
Bigger wheel, bigger tire, more optimal offset. Still right around the target weight to retain the normal damping rates of AHC.

I used to be super weary of LTs too until recently and now i wont hesitate to go to an E load. They are perfectly acceptable at the right pressures even for a comfort snob like me. If even one interior panel is shaking or rattling on bumps im not interested.
The LTs are not earth shatteringly, teeth jarringly stiff if you don't inflate them for a non existent load.

Another big OCD thing i have with tires is the sidewall integration. The KO2 looks like the only tire on the market which is molded with a truly integrated sidewall lug structure. Everything else has a mold delineating the tread and sidewall and looks off to me as if it were a two piece, (which they most likely are).

 

[AnyMal]

By the way i had made a post and didnt realize i should have put it here for those in search of wheels.

For the offset susp geometry purists, this is the only other suitable +40 wheel i was able to find anywhere.
If your upsized and lifted, this is about as good as it gets in aftermarket offsets.

18x9 +40 ET Wheel Alternative

While I've decided to stick to my current setup, this is one of the only alternatives ive seen outside of the well known options here on MUD. In case anyone is in a big bind for wheel options that doesn't want spacers this could be useful. Getting Dakar Zeros seems to be a problem with lead...

forum.ih8mud.com

(Just disregard that thread)