Aftermarket FJ40 Dash Pad (1 Viewer)

[AlexJet]

Using UPS to Canada would suck. They charge a brokerage fee which can be as high as $75 added to the shipping. Best way to ship to Canada is USPS. There is often no extra fee or only $5-10 handling fee.

For me if a vendor won't ship USPS I do not buy from them

Daryl

I totally understand you as I ship often parts from US to Canada. Preferred method is USPS or UPS Store on the south side of the border, then go and pick it up myself.

 

[DSRTRDR]

US Postal Service is always cheaper than anybody else to Germany - could be the same to South America ?

(although USPS actually contracts the transport out to FEDEX - go figure)

 

[fjbj40]

Daryl,

I was not aware of the $75 additional charge and have not seen a brokerage fee but then again I've never shipped international. (We have had a lot of our products shipped throughout the world but the OEM does the shipping)

This morning I ran shipping time and cost (in my UPS account) to Calgary, Alberta. Costs came in at $31. Inside the quote they break down the charges, I didn't see a brokerage fee. I also ran it through the fj40dash.com website and it showed $31.

I thought $31 was pretty reasonable. This was prior to me trying to get reduced rates for international shipping. Hopefully it will be reduced even more but won't know for a couple of more days on that.

They won't tell you about the brokerage fee as you are the shipper. The receiver takes it up the arse when it arrives, pun intended!

I looked at some hinges for my bimini top on my Whaler the other day on an American site. They were $1.79, I wanted 2. Total after shipping, duty and brokerage was $28.00! Needles to say I sourced them from a local place, still had to order, but was only $5 total.

Daryl

 

[fjgoober]

Thanks for the feedback! I had no idea and just assumed it was the same as a domestic shipment. Would have never believed they charge the end receiver a brokerage fee!!! Almost as bad as VISA & Paypal. Those guys are making a fortune floating money!!!

I can look at USPS shipping then to International Countries (If I can figure out how to set it up shouldn't be that hard.) I will take a look at the USPS website to determine the logistics of it.

Thanks again learned something new. When my UPS international salesman calls back I am definitely going to quiz him about this.

 

[amaurer]

Isn't the brokerage fee just the customs payment, with UPS acting as the broker? You'll still have to pay customs duty on USPS, no?

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

When I ship to Canada I usually check off "gift" and put the value at a few dollars.

 

[AlexJet]

Isn't the brokerage fee just the customs payment, with UPS acting as the broker? You'll still have to pay customs duty on USPS, no?

Not exactly.
UPS brokerage fee is a fee payable to UPS for the preparation of the customs paperwork. Basically what sender does when filling out the form when sending Postal, UPS does electronically. In my opinion it's redo couloirs charge as much of the work already done by the sender, they just need to fill the form out.
Customs fees are different story. Basically customs are free (in Canada at least), but they charge taxes on the product based on the declared value. If the value is suspicious, customs can hold the package till finding real value.

USPS/CanadaPost works differently. Sender fills out the declaration form at the Postal Office and receiver (in Canada) pays taxes on declared value and $5 handling fee for brokerage, which sounds fair. In some cases when the value is less then $99, Customs may not charge taxes, but only for regular post packages.

 

[AlexJet]

Taxes in Canada ate 13%. If item is made outside of NAFTA (Canada, US, Mexico) there's 6.9% duties.

Here is some breakdown on UPS brokerage fees (+13% tax):
$0-$20 --- $0 brokerage + $$5.85 bond fee + $4.25 COD fee (as the money collected at the delivery = $10.10 +13% = $11.41
$20-$40 --- $7 + $5.85 + $4.25 = $17.10 +13% = $19.32
$40-$100 --- $19.45 + $5.85 + $4.25 = $29.55 +13% = $33.39
$100-$200 --- $29 + $5.85 + 4.25 = $39.10 +13% = $44.18
$200-$350 --- $44.25 + $9.45 + $4.25 = $57.95 +13% = $65.48
$350-$500 --- $49.70 + $13.50 + $4.25 = $67.45 +13% = $76.22
$500-$750 --- $56.50 + $20.25 + $4.25 = $81 +13% = $91.53
$750-$1000 --- $63.25 + $27 + $4.25 = $94.50 +13% = $106.79


Say you have $300 part.
UPS - 65.48+39(part tax)= $104.48
USPS - 5+39= $44

 

[Al Johnson]

I'm in - love to replace my old cracked one !

 

[fjgoober]

AlexJet,

If I read your post right and I was looking at the last example ($750-$1000).

UPS charges:

brokerage fee
bond fee
COD fee
Then they collect a 13% tax on the summation of fees. You still have to pay taxes for the value of the product? Right?

We shipped a dash to south of the border (When I say that in Kansas I immediately think of Mexico) to OROVILLE, WA but he had to have an invoice with the product to get through customs (So I'm assuming he had to pay taxes on it)

Are you saying the USPS only charges you $5 in fees and then you pay the taxes. If this is correct than that seems the best way to go for the consumer.

I'm just trying to find the least expensive way to get the product out to people who want it and I would have to assume there is a larger market outside the US than inside.

 

[AlexJet]

AlexJet,

If I read your post right and I was looking at the last example ($750-$1000).

UPS charges:

brokerage fee
bond fee
COD fee
Then they collect a 13% tax on the summation of fees. You still have to pay taxes for the value of the product? Right?

We shipped a dash to south of the border (When I say that in Kansas I immediately think of Mexico) to OROVILLE, WA but he had to have an invoice with the product to get through customs (So I'm assuming he had to pay taxes on it)

Are you saying the USPS only charges you $5 in fees and then you pay the taxes. If this is correct than that seems the best way to go for the consumer.

I'm just trying to find the least expensive way to get the product out to people who want it and I would have to assume there is a larger market outside the US than inside.

You mainly correct. I can only say for Canada as where I'm. For Canada - Yes, USPS is better way. The point is that sometimes USPS shipping is more then UPS, but overall cheaper at the end when you count all in. Sometimes USPS not taking too big or too heavy and you have to go with other freight companies, but there is completely different story.

 

[Rusty]

AlexJet,

If I read your post right and I was looking at the last example ($750-$1000).

UPS charges:

brokerage fee
bond fee
COD fee
Then they collect a 13% tax on the summation of fees. You still have to pay taxes for the value of the product? Right?

We shipped a dash to south of the border (When I say that in Kansas I immediately think of Mexico) to OROVILLE, WA but he had to have an invoice with the product to get through customs (So I'm assuming he had to pay taxes on it)

Are you saying the USPS only charges you $5 in fees and then you pay the taxes. If this is correct than that seems the best way to go for the consumer.

I'm just trying to find the least expensive way to get the product out to people who want it and I would have to assume there is a larger market outside the US than inside.

I won't ship across the border unless the seller ships USPS because the major shipping companies charge rediculous brokerage fees. I find with USPS when it arrives there is a minimal fee charged by Canada Customs for handling and assessing the package for taxes and duty etc. Depending on the value of the goods sometimes all they charge is the handling fee.

Now I ship to a shipping company in the US just across the border from me, I can see the US from my living room window so this is a convenient option for me. They charge $5 per package and can handle truck freight shipments for a $16 fee. I find if the value I'm crossing with at the border is $200 or less then the customs agents often don't (but not always) bother charging tax or duty. It's important to always have the receipt with you, it can be a real hassle if you don't have one, of course there are no brokerage fees this way because you are importing the goods yourself.

Most US/Canada crossings that have towns on them have these shipping companies that run a similar business, it's definitely the way to go if you live nearby a crossing.

 

[Rusty]

You mainly correct. I can only say for Canada as where I'm. For Canada - Yes, USPS is better way. The point is that sometimes USPS shipping is more then UPS, but overall cheaper at the end when you count all in. Sometimes USPS not taking too big or too heavy and you have to go with other freight companies, but there is completely different story.

This is true, I've never tried shipping something as large as a dash pad USPS.

 

[fjgoober]

US Postal Service is always cheaper than anybody else to Germany - could be the same to South America ?

(although USPS actually contracts the transport out to FEDEX - go figure)

I have had the reverse happen as well. USPS delivering a FEDEX package.

I know there are a lot of members on here from outside the US and I am curious to the cheapest way for them to receive.

Thanks

 

[AlexJet]

I have had the reverse happen as well. USPS delivering a FEDEX package.

I know there are a lot of members on here from outside the US and I am curious to the cheapest way for them to receive.

Thanks

Postal Service always be cheaper at the end.
The downside of the Postal Service shipping is time. As an example I'll take Canada. UPS Standard shipping from US to Canada is 3-5 days depend on location. USPS/CanadaPost Priority is 2-3 weeks depend on location, but not guaranteed, I had some USPS shipping arrive in 4 weeks from Colorado to Ontario.

 

[fjbj40]

Postal Service always be cheaper at the end.
The downside of the Postal Service shipping is time. As an example I'll take Canada. UPS Standard shipping from US to Canada is 3-5 days depend on location. USPS/CanadaPost Priority is 2-3 weeks depend on location, but not guaranteed, I had some USPS shipping arrive in 4 weeks from Colorado to Ontario.

And I have had USPS come from Cali in 4 days and shipped stuff to Cali in the same amount of time also using the 5-9 business option. It really is a hit and miss....

Daryl

 

[AlexJet]

And I have had USPS come from Cali in 4 days and shipped stuff to Cali in the same amount of time also using the 5-9 business option. It really is a hit and miss....

Daryl

This should of been Expedited, not Priority. Had one like that too. But Expedited cost more then Priority.

 

[Awl_TEQ]

Daryl,

I was not aware of the $75 additional charge and have not seen a brokerage fee but then again I've never shipped international. (We have had a lot of our products shipped throughout the world but the OEM does the shipping)

This morning I ran shipping time and cost (in my UPS account) to Calgary, Alberta. Costs came in at $31. Inside the quote they break down the charges, I didn't see a brokerage fee. I also ran it through the fj40dash.com website and it showed $31.

I thought $31 was pretty reasonable. This was prior to me trying to get reduced rates for international shipping. Hopefully it will be reduced even more but won't know for a couple of more days on that.

EDIT: My statement below was coverd by others - I was still reading the last page when I replied

You didn't see the charge because you don't pay it. They add it on at this end and hold the package hostage until you pay. Sometimes they will deliver it and two weeks later you get an invoice in the mail for the brokerage fee. The whole thing is a scam. You can self import the package by going to customs and paying less than $3 to do the paperwork yourself but they charge $30 to $90 to do it for you. I also won't buy from a vender that only offers UPS.

FedEx is better. They have an "international economy" service that is two days and only minimal broker charges.

USPS is best with often no charge. I have sent and received several dozen shipments with USPS and have yet to lose anything or break anything.

 

[fjgoober]

I appreciate the information on shipping. I will set up USPS definitely as we already ship armrests via priority mail and look into Fedex.

I haven't heard anything from other areas except Canada. How do you guys in South America and Central America receive your shipments? Australia? New Zealand? Africa? Europe? I would love to know.

NOTE: I thought I would tell everyone that it will be approximately 2 weeks before I will have any more dashes. We are swamped on the OEM side and it will be 2 weeks before I get that chemistry back in production.

 

[SSCR]

All right enough shipping talk lets talk about roll bar pads and a one piece lower dash pad for later model 40s!