This is where I bought all my lines and fittings.
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This is where I bought all my lines and fittings.
Stainless to stainless yes if you don't address it with something beforehand like a never-seez or lubricant, stainless to cast steel or brass like you'll be doing I would prefer the stainless over all my other choices..
Most of what I do is stainless line with stainless 37° fittings and I've never had a problem.
Yes for the stuff I do around here that still uses flare fittings I only use theirs, they are silver in color under the ink coating they use for the size identifier, I don't like the color so I put them in a cup of lacquer thinner for a min and it melts off.
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Like your guy says on his front page spec is .028” with a max of .031” wall thickness and it's harder than you think to get tubing that's in spec.
Also looks like a great place to buy from!
WarDamnEagle
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Definitely an option for tubing and fittings. They seem to have a bit of everything. So forgive my ignorance on this subject but we are looking for fittings that are 10mm x 1.0, SAE (45 degree inverted/double) flare with a non-threaded lead? I measured a few of my fittings and they were consistently 18mm long overall with 13mm of thread/lead. Not finding anything close to that on their website though. Do you remember which fittings you used?
Agree that tubing looks nice but so is the one you referenced. Can you measure the length of one of the fittings you referenced? Looks like the steel plated and the stainless are more or less the same length but they don't give the dimensions. Thanks
Federal Hill Trading Company
3/16"/4.75mm Metric thread brake line nuts,fittings, unions and adapters
I have used both lengths without a problem.
I'll try to remember later today to take a look, the important part for you is to measure the amount of thread on one of your existing fittings that sticks out past the caliper or wheel cylinder and note that, we really only care about the amount of threads it takes to seat the flare and the new nuts have at least that distance before the hex bottoms.
From memory the factory nuts were quite a bit longer but almost half that extra threaded length stuck out past what was needed.
Thinking about this, I never cared much for the longer bodied ones. There's a reason for them, something about stress and vibration, etc.
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Maybe I'm blind, my wife says I am often, but I don't see any 10mm-1.0 SAE nuts with a non-threaded lead. They are all fully threaded. That probably doesn't matter.
Okay I'm not nearly as organized as you are and my brake fitting drawer is a pile of random brake fittings.
Point to the one that you would like me to measure and I will get you a dimension.
bobm
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I don't have any of these fittings if that's what you are looking for..
Metric Brake Line Fitting Kit for 3/16
Includes popular ISO flare fittings for 3/16" tube. 10 x 1 mm - Quantity 10 11 x 1.5 - Quantity 2 12 x 1 - Quantity 2 13 x 1.5 - Quantity 2
www.thestopshop.com
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That was my impression as well but I went and measured them. Most had around 4mm of thread sticking out (out of 13mm). I found 1 that was a bit more, around 5mm, and 1 that was around 2mm (somewhere in the engine bay). The only installed ones are the jumpers in the rear brake assemblies and they measure exactly 4mm (and their fittings are the exact dimensions of the OEM ones that came out).
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No, I was talking about the ones you referenced earlier. Amazon.com: The Stop Shop Stainless Steel Metric Brake Line Invert Flare Fitting for 3/16" Tube. 10 x 1 mm (Pack of 10) : Automotive - https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Metric-Invert-Fitting/dp/B01KNGVPCC/ref=ast_sto_dp_puis?tag=ihco-20I don't have any of these fittings if that's what you are looking for..
Metric Brake Line Fitting Kit for 3/16
Includes popular ISO flare fittings for 3/16" tube. 10 x 1 mm - Quantity 10 11 x 1.5 - Quantity 2 12 x 1 - Quantity 2 13 x 1.5 - Quantity 2www.thestopshop.com
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Aren't the ones you just linked iso/bubble flare? Those won't work; right?
Gotcha, I don't have any of those stainless fittings here to measure..Most of what I do is SAE.
They are cheap enough I would just order them and check them with your actual parts. Based on your 4mm stick out I'm betting they will work.
You were describing the fittings with a non-threaded lead so I assumed you were taking about bubble flare fittings...
Ok, I got out my brake fitting box. 
Here's what I have. Top one 15mm, middle one 17mm and bottom 10mm. I want to take back what I said about the longer ones. That's what I used on all of mine, the 17mm with threads to the end.
Here's what I have. Top one 15mm, middle one 17mm and bottom 10mm. I want to take back what I said about the longer ones. That's what I used on all of mine, the 17mm with threads to the end.
WarDamnEagle
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No, the Toyota OEM fittings have a non-threaded lead. Just to confirm, aren't we looking for 10mm x 1.0 SAE inverted flare fittings? Your SAE comment seems to imply that they aren't SAE. Again, I'm just trying to make sure I'm looking for the right animal. And I do appreciate everyone's patience and help when I go down a rabbit hole. Apologies in advance.Gotcha, I don't have any of those stainless fittings here to measure..Most of what I do is SAE.
They are cheap enough I would just order them and check them with your actual parts. Based on your 4mm stick out I'm betting they will work.
You were describing the fittings with a non-threaded lead so I assumed you were taking about bubble flare fittings...
Here's a photo that Rainman posted when he was still building brake lines FWIW. He said Nut A was just like the original Toyota fittings and he didn't like the long unthreaded lead in. Nut B is what he uses as it gives generally 2 more threads than Nut A, and Nut C was fully threaded but he doesn't use them. I'm paraphrasing a bit for brevity but that's the jest of the post.
Standard fitting that I have here is 10 mm of thread and this is one threaded into a Toyota caliber.
I believe 45° flare is 45° flare regardless of the threads on the fitting itself..
You want metric threads.
I'm out in my shop typing replies on a miniature keyboard on my cell phone so coherent replies are almost impossible for me...
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Yes, of course I want metric threads. I think that 45 degree flare is called an SAE Flare. At least according to a bunch of the 10mm x 1.0 fittings I have looked at it is.
10mm x 1.0 Fine thread, male, fully threaded, steel nut, SAE (double) flare, 16mm long.
10mm x 1.0 Fine thread, male, fully threaded, steel nut, 16mm long overall SAE flare (45 degree inverted/double) Common Asian nut Use with 3/16"/4.75mm brake line
Nice looking caliper btw. Looks like it would bolt right onto my piggy........if I had something to bolt it to.
