35" tyres on landcrusier

[spressomon]

So I did some testing today as promised. A 295/75/R16 will come close to the fender. Not sure how much taller a 315/75 is exactly. But Mr.Shotts has not GIVEN US ANY

You'll get a little (how much in inches I don't know exactly) compression of the rubber bump stop...maybe not as much to eliminate the static compressed clearance amount you have shown here...

 

[5Cruiser]

Thank you 2000UJZ.

I have been considering that exact tire (BFG AT 295/75/16). The only concern I have is not having the Load E...just what I've always used, so kind of unsure about reducing that rating...

How has that tire been performing for you? Any concerns of the D over the E? Do you carry much weight when you 4wheel?

Thanks again, those pictures are so, so helpful.

 

[2000UZJ]

Thank you 2000UJZ.

I have been considering that exact tire (BFG AT 295/75/16). The only concern I have is not having the Load E...just what I've always used, so kind of unsure about reducing that rating...

How has that tire been performing for you? Any concerns of the D over the E? Do you carry much weight when you 4wheel?

Thanks again, those pictures are so, so helpful.

I usually carry about 250lbs of gear when I go out. Little more for these trips. This is a 3 day event and I'm fully loaded with water, camping gear, pumps, and spare parts, stove, food,etc.

The BFG's are great, it has been extremely dry lately in GA so grip and mud has not been a problem. They do pretty good on wet rock, a M/T would be better of course, but for an A/T tire they have yet to fail me. As for the D or E rating, I do not tow, nor do any "heavy" loading of my 100, so the E rating has not been an issue. Glad to help with the pictures, I will be happy to take some more if you need, just let me know where/how I need to take the shot.

 

[5Cruiser]

I usually carry about 250lbs of gear when I go out. Little more for these trips. This is a 3 day event and I'm fully loaded with water, camping gear, pumps, and spare parts, stove, food,etc.

The BFG's are great, it has been extremely dry lately in GA so grip and mud has not been a problem. They do pretty good on wet rock, a M/T would be better of course, but for an A/T tire they have yet to fail me. As for the D or E rating, I do not tow, nor do any "heavy" loading of my 100, so the E rating has not been an issue. Glad to help with the pictures, I will be happy to take some more if you need, just let me know where/how I need to take the shot.

Thanks!!

So it seems to me what I have learned from this thread is that an OME torsion bar lift will not make a difference in fitting these tires. As we all seem to agree, the torsion lift just sets the "static" position of the a-arms lower, but they can still compress to the "static ride height" of a non lifted vehicle.

I need to get my tires first and my lift second.

I think I can get 295/75/16 with no lift, and they will fit. Then I can get my lift this winter after selling my runner.

Correct?

 

[2000UZJ]

Did some more testing, I put the full weight and I just CANNOT SEE HOW 35" TIRES WOULD FIT!!!!

I simply just don't see how a 35 would not rip your fender well, or fender...period


FYI: I could turn, no rubbing or popping of the fender, but it was very, very close.

 

[wildsmith]

285x75x18 Toyo AT's, OEM 18" wheels, 20mm spacers, OME torsion bars, 40mm body lift. There is about 20mm between the tyre and the body panel. 36" Simex in the same pose barely clear by a few mm.

 

[2000UZJ]

I hate to keep dragging this thead on. But washed my wheel wells out today and noticed this: Just another picture of "proof" that 35's won't fit without rubbing or tearing your fenders apart.

 

[spressomon]

I hate to keep dragging this thead on. But washed my wheel wells out today and noticed this: Just another picture of "proof" that 35's won't fit without rubbing or tearing your fenders apart.

The BL helps and all but eliminates the contact with the rear inner fender liner. However my GY MT/R 285/75 R18's are a little taller than my prior 315/75 R16 MT/R and I still get a little rub on the rear inner fender liner at max articulation. I can deal with that...its the front rub that's more destructive as you know . I'm thinking a 3/4" BL might just solve the front issue...but the fan shroud would need to be dealt with...and so it goes!

 

[wildsmith]

I'm thinking a 3/4" BL might just solve the front issue...but the fan shroud would need to be dealt with...and so it goes!

I should have added to the BL thread but a month or two ago I decided to have another look at this and just lowered the radiator. It just took 2 longer L brackets for the lower mounts, 2 new holes for the upper mounts and a blanking plate to fill the new gap above the radiator. Turned out to be a very easy job which I'd put off because of plans to raise the engine & gearbox but that will be a while in the planning yet. So no shroud mod needed

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Just another picture of "proof" that 35's won't fit without rubbing or tearing your fenders apart.

A couple of thoughts.......

*We should add this information to the 100 FAQ so nobody makes such an error when selecting tire sizes.

*We all should remove our 315-75-16 tires from our 100's before we "tear something apart". It must be happening 24/7 if this is true so we need to modify "smart".

*Ahhh...the inside wheel well slight rub? This even happens on an 80-series with a Slee 6" lift, lowered bump-stops and 315 tires. I suggest somebody post up in the 80 section that the 80's can't fit 315 tires without rubbing. We need to spare them from damage as well.

*Lastly...Even though I have not torn anything apart after 100 trips and 120,000 miles with 315's on my 100, I'll retire Roklimo to Forest Road trail-types until I can afford new 285 tires.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

A couple of thoughts.......

*We should add this information to the 100 FAQ so nobody makes such an error when selecting tire sizes.

*We all should remove our 315-75-16 tires from our 100's before we "tear something apart". It must be happening 24/7 if this is true so we need to modify "smart".

*Ahhh...the inside wheel well slight rub? This even happens on an 80-series with a Slee 6" lift, lowered bump-stops and 315 tires. I suggest somebody post up in the 80 section that the 80's can't fit 315 tires without rubbing. We need to spare them from damage as well.

*Lastly...Even though I have not torn anything apart after 100 trips and 120,000 miles with 315's on my 100, I'll retire Roklimo to Forest Road trail-types until I can afford new 285 tires.

Clearance with 35's are only for people that wheel, some dont need worry

 

[steenh]

A couple of thoughts.......

*We should add this information to the 100 FAQ so nobody makes such an error when selecting tire sizes.

*We all should remove our 315-75-16 tires from our 100's before we "tear something apart". It must be happening 24/7 if this is true so we need to modify "smart".

*Ahhh...the inside wheel well slight rub? This even happens on an 80-series with a Slee 6" lift, lowered bump-stops and 315 tires. I suggest somebody post up in the 80 section that the 80's can't fit 315 tires without rubbing. We need to spare them from damage as well.

*Lastly...Even though I have not torn anything apart after 100 trips and 120,000 miles with 315's on my 100, I'll retire Roklimo to Forest Road trail-types until I can afford new 285 tires.

I think that's overkill... just take a picture of your fully compressed front end with the wheel turned and not ripping out your fender and we'll all believe you. Seeing a 295 within a hair of rubbing makes the liklihood of that seem unbelievable, but you are in the perfect position to prove it can be done.

So, just do that

 

[pman]

just take a picture of your fully compressed front end with the wheel turned to full lock and not ripping out your fender and we'll all believe you.

So, just do that

I agree with steen......with my adjustment



BTW we need to go wheeling again some time

 

[steenh]

BTW we need to go wheeling again some time

Yes we do! And I don't need 35's to rip my fenders up

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

I think that's overkill... just take a picture of your fully compressed front end with the wheel turned and not ripping out your fender and we'll all believe you. Seeing a 295 within a hair of rubbing makes the liklihood of that seem unbelievable, but you are in the perfect position to prove it can be done.

So, just do that

Nobody needs to believe me.

I don't want to prove anything here.

The other's data can speak for the 100 when it comes to tire size. Looks like the case is "closed" and we all should take our 315's off before it's too late (or bumpstop the front and rear which lessens articulation).

 

[yoter100]

Just a quick picture. Not sure how close the bumpstop is to the contact point, but its gotta be close. Not taking sides, just a little more info.


Shotts: Nobody needs to believe you?? You tried so hard this entire thread to prove you were right. You saying that, kind of brings the sound of you grinding the gears trying to get it into reverse.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Nobody needs to believe me.

I don't want to prove anything here.

The other's data can speak for the 100 when it comes to tire size. Looks like the case is "closed" and we all should take our 315's off before it's too late (or bumpstop the front and rear which lessens articulation).

Optical illusion

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Ya, looks like you had it figured out all along. Then the others confirmed it. Good data. We should warn the 100-section via the FAQ section.

As soon as I can afford it I'm going to rip off those 315 KM2's before they rip off my metal. 285's for me from here on out. Gonna have to wait. GUESS, MARCIANO and BEBE have drained our accounts.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Shotts: Nobody needs to believe you?? You tried so hard this entire thread to prove you were right. You saying that, kind of brings the sound of you grinding the gears trying to get it into reverse.

Who can argue with all the pictures and data you folks have provided. I say "case closed". Rip off 35's or rip off fenders. Will you be:

A. Removing your 35's?
B. Bump-stopping everything?

 

[dclee]

John - You make an empirical statement that 35s fit with no rubbing issues, requiring no body lift, no bump stop adjustment, etc., and then you're surprised when people challenge you? You always say, look at the pics when trying to prove your own points, but when other produce pics that contradict you, suddenly all you have is smart-a$$ remarks? A true sign of reasoning and intelligence...

Can you just acknowledge that every setup is slightly different, and while you can fit 35s with no rubbing, that doesn't mean that everyone else can?