33's or 35's for Off Road (1 Viewer)

[wngrog]

2001 100

OK, here is the deal. You guys know that I have a real rig to do the hard stuff. This rig will be for loading the family and heading out to the trails on nice easy stuff.

I am doing a lift with Slee Drop, Sliders and bumpers. Probably lock the rear but I want to play with TRAC first.

I want Terra Grapplers on 18's for my off road and everyday/around town tires. This will NOT be a daily driver.

Also, I want to keep the stock tires for when I use it to tow my rock buggy.

SOOOOO, go all the way and get 35's or just get some 33's and be done with it.

I really don't like the thought of the power drain the 35s are going to put on it, or the strain on the front suspension components.

I like the way SINCITY100's rig looks with the 33's too. Plus, in a pinch, I could do some light towing without swapping in the small tires.

Thoughts? I would LOVE if you guys with the 2.5" lift and 33's and 35's would post up some pictures to help me decide on which I like the looks of better.

Sorry for all the posts lately. Just excited to finally have one of these.

 

[woody]

33's, damn noobies...

love the 33's on my 80, and it would be a nice offroad comparison to wheel together...

save some space on the trailer for that extra set of tars/wheelz

 

[wngrog]

33's, damn noobies...

love the 33's on my 80, and it would be a nice offroad comparison to wheel together...

save some space on the trailer for that extra set of tars/wheelz

That is what I will do for Moab, tow the buggy out there with the stock tires on and wheel the piss out of it. When the family hits town, change tires and do some family wheeling.

Slap the tiny's back on for the drive home

My skill will overcome anything that the 100 lacks over your 80 I am sure, so that will not be a good comparison Cheesehead....

 

[Greg B]

I have 295's on my 100 and I like them a lot for everyday driving. The power loss is noticeable, but not bad at all. The 100's V8 and 4.30's do a good job of compensating for the 33's.

This pic is with OME 866's (2" lift) in the rear and 295x75 AT's.

 

[ginericLC]

So this is all assuming no gear swaps?

I'm not sure what sized tires Shott's was running at CM 04 but he did fairly well for family type wheeling.

Are you going to put airbags in the rear for towing?

 

[Greg B]

Also, I plan on adding another set of wheels and tires for local off-roading. I'll probably go to a 315x75 MT or a 34x10.50 Swamper LTB for dedicated off-roading. These will be nice for the muddy stuff around here. I wouldn't want to run them all the time though without re-gearing to 4.88's, especially the 315's.

You need to run a taller rear spring though to run the 315's. I just changed out to 863's on the rear. They give a true 3" lift with the Slee bumper installed.

 

[macneill]

Some shots with 33s and the OME. My diff-drop and OME t-bars are sitting in the back waiting to be put on if I ever get a breather from work.

And yes, the tube steps and stupid bar on the back have come off.

 

[woody]

My skill will overcome anything that the 100 lacks over your 80 I am sure, so that will not be a good comparison Cheesehead....

yer right, you should really get 35's so you have half a chance ;p


BTW: nice choice, lettin Mace and Annie break in the rig....hehehe

 

[wngrog]

So this is all assuming no gear swaps?

I'm not sure what sized tires Shott's was running at CM 04 but he did fairly well for family type wheeling.

Are you going to put airbags in the rear for towing?

No gear swap and I would like to stay away from the air bags bit I will do them if I end up needing them.

My new buggy weighs in at 2700# wet and my trailer is around 1500# so I should be fine with the load if I keep it over the axles.

I plan on a Slee bumper without the tire carrier (hate swinging them out)

If I get the heavier springs will it sit stupid ass-high?

 

[wngrog]

I see 865, 866 and 863 in these threads and signatures. Please let me know what spring rates these numbers correspond to please...

 

[hoser]

Keep in mind the Nitto TG's in 325/60-18 (33") might be kinda wide for the stock 8" wheel. The 325/65-18 (35") would work fine though. You should try driving a 100 on 35's and stock gearing and see if it'll work for you. Personally, I can't wait to regear.

Here's an old pic...

 

[Kneel]

Hoser - Now I see why you were interested in a "skinny" 35. That spare looks to be hanging LOW. What did you have to do to get that tire to fit under there?

 

[wngrog]

Keep in mind the Nitto TG's in 325/60-18 (33") might be kinda wide for the stock 8" wheel. The 325/65-18 (35") would work fine though. You should try driving a 100 on 35's and stock gearing and see if it'll work for you. Personally, I can't wait to regear.

Here's an old pic...

I am not worried at all about the width on a stock wheel.

I look at your truck and it looks like you have more lift than the guy with the 33's on his.

What gives?

 

[spressomon]

I spoke to Christo before I installed my 33"'s (285R75-16")...his opinion is the 33" strikes a good balance with the added height over stock but not so much (as in 35") to apply significant leverage to the drivetrain.

I think it really depends where you live (as in elevation); how and where you drive the vehicle (for my off-road touring/hunting/camping/pulling a trailer/general 4x4 usage has been perfect with the 33"'s). For my uses, upsizing to 35" fully understanding the additional loads placed on the drivetrain, breaks, etc., and where I live I would want to regear both diffs and the t-case...however it just isn't going to happen from a budget point of view. I also need to run recovery chains once in a while and the additonal width of the 35"ers makes this much more challenging with respect to the inside tire to wheel well and A-arm clearance.

Moving up to 33" is a relatively benign process...35"'s on the other hand, to do it right, creates a few more potentially expensive challenges!


Oh yea...one more thing: Shotts will chime in with exactly the opposite recommendation

 

[macneill]

Keep in mind the Nitto TG's in 325/60-18 (33") might be kinda wide for the stock 8" wheel. The 325/65-18 (35") would work fine though. You should try driving a 100 on 35's and stock gearing and see if it'll work for you. Personally, I can't wait to regear.

Here's an old pic...

Tonka called again... they want their truck back...

 

[macneill]

Oh yea...one more thing: Shotts will chime in with exactly the opposite recommendation

Or SIN!

 

[hoser]

Hoser - Now I see why you were interested in a "skinny" 35. That spare looks to be hanging LOW. What did you have to do to get that tire to fit under there?

That spare in the above picture is actually the stock spare tire. The 35" spare would hang down another 1.5" but currently it resides on the Slee carrier. It can fit underneath if needed.

 

[macneill]

That spare in the above picture is actually the stock spare tire. The 35" spare would hang down another 1.5" but currently it resides on the Slee carrier. It can fit underneath if needed.

Yet another guy with the Slee Rear Bumper....

 

[hoser]

I am not worried at all about the width on a stock wheel.
I look at your truck and it looks like you have more lift than the guy with the 33's on his. What gives?

My LX is lifted 2.5" in the front and 3.5" in the rear. I've been meaning to bring the ass down a little though. I have to play with the AHC bracket. Also, Greg's LC is shown with sliders and the camera angle is different.

Macneil, Tonka ain't getting their truck back just yet. I'm not done playin'.

 

[SINCITY100]

Or SIN!

Oh, man !..am I being put in the same league as Shotts again ?!..


Just because I WANT 35`s... doesn`t mean I NEED 35`s !!


I have said this before, but I am VERY happy with the overall performance with the 33" tire on my 100...FULL articulation, very good acceleration, decent turning radius..AND the overall look with the 2 - 2 1/2" of lift that I have on mine.

The main reason I want to move up to 35`s is because I want to do some more difficult trails/runs, and the added clearance will (hopefully) help my lame ass get through them a little bit easier !

If I was using my 100 to tow ANYTHING...or better yet...I had ANOTHER rig for the tougher trails (must be nice ! ) then I wouldnt even consider 35" tires.

Remember, My 100 is currently my ONLY trail vehicle, so I`ll have to make more modifications/additions to it so that it gets me TO the trail, THROUGH the trail, and BACK home again...Did I mention it must be nice to have a tow vehicle as capable as the 100 AND a built trail runner ?!!

I hope this helps with your decision !!

I am gonna go re-think my career now... sniffle...sniffle..