I'm running 275/70R18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers with 1.25" spacers on a King 2.5 suspension (should be about 2.5" of total lift) and had much more rubbing than expected (full lock in reverse). Both of the front flaps have now been removed; the rubbing on the rearward flap was very slight and removal fixed it completely. I also removed the small front postcard sized one as well, but still had a noticeable rub so I broke out the heat gun which solved it for me. It wasn't the end of the world, but I just don't want to listen to my tire abusing my fender liner every time I back out of a parking spot.
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chris777
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Interesting thread. Is there anyone here that goes places where they sometimes need to put on tire chains? I live in the south, but go skiing enough that there is no way I would go with taller tires (70), because I want to be able to run chains when I have to. That is why I am planning on going with 60 or 65s instead of 70s. I have 285/55s now.
prwillard2
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Get a spare set of wheels/tires for snow trips. Get someone's factory takeoff wheels + blizzaks = win. Plus you're apparently only supposed to put chains on the rear tires in the LC according to several threads on here.
chris777
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Oh really! Good to know. Haven’t bought mine yet for a January trip. Thanks.
Did you need spacers to avoid hitting kdss? I’m planning on running 275/70/18s in stock 18” wheel as well.
Will 275/70/18 fit in a stock 2010 cruiser? Not sure if all of this info pertains to 16+ models.
Yep
That’s the biggest size with no issues as long as you have stock wheels and no spacers.
@Flinthills - I have a set of 1.25” Spidertrax spacers for sale in the classifieds section if you’re still looking.
SOLD - Seattle: 4x 5x150 1.25” Spidertrax wheel spacers
A set of 4 Spidertrax blue aluminum 5x150 1.25” wheel spacers. Used on my Land Cruiser 200 for less than a year. I bought new wheels/tires and no longer need the spacers. Fit Tundra & Sequoia. Prefer local pick up, but will ship at buyer’s expense from 98112. $200 for all 4 spacers.forum.ih8mud.com
Here was my truck with 275/70R18s, the 1.25” spacers, and a lift.
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Are you running 1.25” spacers for all 4 wheels? I’m interested in this same/similar set up. But for 2010 land cruiser.
Yes, spacers are on all 4 wheels
chris777
TLCA member #12444
And you run spacers because you like how it looks for your tires to stick out away from the truck a little and give a little whider stance?
For me personally aesthetics are a major component, but IIRC running a larger/taller tire effectively changes the scrub radius and a spacer (*on stock offset wheels) can help get that back into check
I like the factory BBS wheels too much to change them, otherwise I'd buy wheels with a lower offset like +25 or +30; as it is right now they don't really poke, they are about flush with the side of the fender
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chris777
TLCA member #12444
oh, ok. thank you. I had never heard of scrub radius before. I have been running 33s on my FJ60 for 20 years (original tires were 28s). I googled scrub radius and see what you mean. How does going to a new tire size, and I suppose yo mean from a 60 to a 70, how does it manifest itself when the scrub radius is not compensated for with a spacer?
Yeah I'll be honest too it was never a concern for me with my previously lifted 4Runner, but I have found the LC forums and MUD in particular to care a lot more about technical details of builds than other forums.
I'm also not the most technical person to ask for great in depth explanations, but the basic answer is that improperly setup scrub could manifest as tire wear and squirrely handling
You can use this calculator to determine changes in scrub radius given different combinations of tire size and rim offset. For instance, if we start with the OEM tires and rims (285/60R18, 18x8 with +60mm offset) moving to a 285/70R18 tire and a rim with an offset of +25mm (or the OEM rim with a 1.25" spacer) then the scrub radius will increase by 26mm. It is generally agreed that keeping the change in scrub radius to less than 10mm is optimal, but often this is not possible.
Rim & Tire Size Calculator. Custom Offsets - https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=285-60-18X8ET60&wheel2=285-70-18X8ET25&fcl=50mm&scl=50mm&wcl=30mm&sr=0mm
Yes, I ran 1.25” spacers on all 4 wheels. I primarily did it for looks. The OEM wheels were too tucked in for my taste - looked like a fat lady with skinny legs. I put spacers on almost all of my cars to bring the wheels/tires flush to the outer edges of the wheel wells.
I no longer need the spacers because I put on 18x9 +25 offset wheels with 305/65 tires - and my truck has a solid stance. Spacers are a good way to fix the “too tucked in” problem with the factory wheels.
Question for the brain trust:
I'm eying the Toyo Open Country AT III in a 35x11.5x17 on an LX. Seems like about the biggest I can go diameter wise without BMC (hopefully) and I prefer the extra sidewall of 17's over 18's.
In shopping for 17" wheels, there are a handful of cheap 17x8.5 options available on tirerack with fitment for the Tundra with +35mm offset. I've read +25mm is ideal for larger tires. Do you think +35mm would work given the 8.5" rim width and 11.5 tire width? It's a 200% price jump to the next wheel with +25mm offset.
I'm eying the Toyo Open Country AT III in a 35x11.5x17 on an LX. Seems like about the biggest I can go diameter wise without BMC (hopefully) and I prefer the extra sidewall of 17's over 18's.
In shopping for 17" wheels, there are a handful of cheap 17x8.5 options available on tirerack with fitment for the Tundra with +35mm offset. I've read +25mm is ideal for larger tires. Do you think +35mm would work given the 8.5" rim width and 11.5 tire width? It's a 200% price jump to the next wheel with +25mm offset.
+35 is actually “more ideal” than +25 assuming you are optimizing for suspension geometry and not looks.
