Anybody run 35’s with just the oem front spacer? Or is it pretty much accepted that you need a suspension lift to avoid smashing into the fenders on up travel? I am looking into trying 35x10.5’s and I don’t really want a huge lift because I don’t want to get too tippy and have to replace control arms, etc. I looked through many threads but don’t remember seeing specifically 35’s with just the front spacer
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Lift has nothing to do with fitting a tire. Think about it, the suspension compresses during normal use, all the way up to the bumpstops. Whether you have a lift or not, your fully compressed suspension puts the tire in the exact same spot (unless you've exteneded your bumpstops, which is not a lift).
Whatever mods necessary to fit a given tire size on stock suspension will also be necessary with a lift. LIFT DOES NOT MATTER, but wheel offset, tire size (width) is very important.
And yes, there are some people running 35's with the 200LC. Quite a few more run 35's with LX570 (it's easier to do with a Lexus). In either case, minor mods to the front wheel well liner and mudflap removal (bending of the mudflap bracket) will likely be necessary. With a Land Cruiser, mods to the KDSS (relocation brackets) will likely be necessary as well. And with a full 35, usually there is still some rubbing at the KDSS bar, but minor enough to be acceptable to folks who like big tires
The recipe for success with a LC tends to be a narrower tire, and lower wheel offset (wheel spacer). Someone more knowledgeable than me can fill in the details. I went the easy route and got a Lexus.
Whatever mods necessary to fit a given tire size on stock suspension will also be necessary with a lift. LIFT DOES NOT MATTER, but wheel offset, tire size (width) is very important.
And yes, there are some people running 35's with the 200LC. Quite a few more run 35's with LX570 (it's easier to do with a Lexus). In either case, minor mods to the front wheel well liner and mudflap removal (bending of the mudflap bracket) will likely be necessary. With a Land Cruiser, mods to the KDSS (relocation brackets) will likely be necessary as well. And with a full 35, usually there is still some rubbing at the KDSS bar, but minor enough to be acceptable to folks who like big tires
The recipe for success with a LC tends to be a narrower tire, and lower wheel offset (wheel spacer). Someone more knowledgeable than me can fill in the details. I went the easy route and got a Lexus.
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I think it’s confirmed that skinny 35’s on a zero offset wheel will clear the kdss without relocation so I’m not super worried about that in particular. I guess I assumed that when people lift the rear they also have extended bump stops to prevent the tire smashing into the wheel well, if that is an issue with 35’sLift has nothing to do with fitting a tire. Think about it, the suspension compresses during normal use, all the way up to the bumpstops. Whether you have a lift or not, your fully compressed suspension puts the tire in the exact same spot (unless you've exteneded your bumpstops, which is not a lift).
Whatever mods necessary to fit a given tire size on stock suspension will also be necessary with a lift. LIFT DOES NOT MATTER, but wheel offset, tire size (width) is very important.
And yes, there are some people running 35's with the 200LC. Quite a few more run 35's with LX570 (it's easier to do with a Lexus). In either case, minor mods to the front wheel well liner and mudflap will likely be necessary. With a Land Cruiser, mods to the KDSS (relocation brackets) will likely be necessary as well. And with a full 35, usually there is some rubbing at the KDSS bar, but minor enough to be acceptable to folks who like big tires
Assuming proper offset, nothing is required to fit 35's in the rear.
Absolutely dialed. I will be trying this route
Personally I wouldn't attempt 35x10.50 on only OEM spacer if you're also trying to turn, although it seems like you don't mind getting creative (i.e. cutting) to fit. Those running that size here have a replacement suspension lift.
This is not right and what @Heckraiser did a good job outlining.
Unlike previous solid axle vehicles, IFS does not rely on the suspension or lift to determine tire fit, because it has no impact on full compression travel. That's the job of the bump stops. So regardless of suspension or how much lift you have or don't have, any tire will still need to clear at full compression with steering lock if one intends to off-road.
A 35x10.5 is an easy fit regardless of suspension if you get the wheel offset correct. Ideally between +30 to +45 offset. +25 can work but might result in some more rubbing.
Has anyone here accomplished 35x10.50 or same metric sizing on just the 0.8" OEM spacer? Not arguing the point on uptravel, I wouldn't think it clears steering lock without serious rubbing.
While this is technically correct for ifs, I would say a lift adds clearance for day to day driving where most people don’t use more than 30-50% of their total suspension travel. Nobody is going full stuff while daily driving
I recall @mcgaskins was able to fit a 285/70/18 (33.7x11.2 on paper) on a stock 2016 with no mention of rubbing issues. I think it would be tough even with an OEM spacer lift to fit an additional 1.3" to a 35" tire without rubbing. But I'd love to see you go for it!
That's the difference between a bro truck and real off-roaders.
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I am running 315/70R17 (34.4"x12.4") on 10mm offset wheels. I have the front spacer and the standard OME lift. A "huge lift" doesn't exist for our rigs. I did the body mount chop and didn't do anything with my KDSS bracket/arm and it doesn't rub on that at all with this setup. Continuing to run the factory bumpers are crazy in my mind so I am no longer running those.
I will add that I recently installed a 1.5" body lift with plans to go to 37" tires soon.
I will add that I recently installed a 1.5" body lift with plans to go to 37" tires soon.
Is your plan to put smaller tires on when you do take iyour LC off road? Or is your plan going to be to have a non off-roading LC with big tires?
I guess different strokes for different folks.
Where is this chart of the tires and wheels? I cannot find the link.
Thanks
Thanks
I love how confidently incorrect folks are about posting bro-science when it comes to lift and fitting big tires 
Good looking combination!
How’s the acceleration? Notice any power loss or extra sway on the highway?
Have only driven home from discount tire so far… it’s noticeable that there are all terrain tires but it doesn’t bother me one bit. Will post more feedback in the next few days
