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zennisplayer said:
New here, sorta. Just haven't posted yet. Here's my 2018 after Icon suspension and Nitto Ridge Grapplers. I've been around the country twice already, sleep in her, have a Dometic inside, Thule on top, and I'm happy as a clam. Waiting now for my Slee sliders and Gobi rack to arrive. Oh, and some lights. So many fun things to do. I'm a bit of a originalist, so I'll probably stop about there. Not sure yet. It's like crack. LOL. I love seeing everyone's LC!

My NATO Vehicle

My NATO Vehicle

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What size tires? Looks great!
 
04UZJ100 said:
i see you were able to keep your front mud flaps. Are you running UCA’s/Spacers? What sort of trimming did you do?
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No spacers. No trimming, but it was the largest I could go. I do get an ever so slight rub on a full crank turn. They really do look awesome, and wide, and big. Enough for me at least.

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^If you do ever change your mind about spacers, it would bring multiple benefits including better handling and cornering stability, due to improved suspension geometry for the taller tires.
 
TeCKis300 said:
^If you do ever change your mind about spacers, it would bring multiple benefits including better handling and cornering stability, due to improved suspension geometry for the taller tires.
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Oh, I love information like that. I'll ask my guy at ORW about the specifics. Thank you! I'm not a mechanic, how will that affect the Icon Stage 1 2.5" lift or not?
 
Happy to. Several considerations.

- With a 2.5" lift, the track width narrows because the control arms are at a steeper angle.
- 33.7" diameter tires change the scrub radius geometry which can cause the steering to pull, reduce cornering traction, and steering stability. This can be fixed by using spacers to change the offset of the wheels/tires.

1" spacers would put you in a great place, increasing track width by 2" overall, and correcting suspension geometry for the larger tires. It also keeps the terrain off the side of the vehicle, by pushing the tires further out to meet the track.
 
TeCKis300 said:
Happy to. Several considerations.

- With a 2.5" lift, the track width narrows because the control arms are at a steeper angle.
- 33.7" diameter tires change the scrub radius geometry which can cause the steering to pull, reduce cornering traction, and steering stability. This can be fixed by using spacers to change the offset of the wheels/tires.

1" spacers would put you in a great place, increasing track width by 2" overall, and correcting suspension geometry for the larger tires. It also keeps the terrain off the side of the vehicle, by pushing the tires further out to meet the track.
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Do you think some consideration should be given to him with regards to safety of running spacers? I know hub centric ones are far less likely to fail, but isn’t there still some inherent risk associated to their use?
 
TeCKis300 said:
Happy to. Several considerations.

- With a 2.5" lift, the track width narrows because the control arms are at a steeper angle.
- 33.7" diameter tires change the scrub radius geometry which can cause the steering to pull, reduce cornering traction, and steering stability. This can be fixed by using spacers to change the offset of the wheels/tires.

1" spacers would put you in a great place, increasing track width by 2" overall, and correcting suspension geometry for the larger tires. It also keeps the terrain off the side of the vehicle, by pushing the tires further out to meet the track.
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Thank you for the information and insight. I'll explain to my peeps and see where that takes me. If I can find an advantage, I'd love to make things better.
 
HGB said:
Do you think some consideration should be given to him with regards to safety of running spacers? I know hub centric ones are far less likely to fail, but isn’t there still some inherent risk associated to their use?
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That's a fair question.

As with any modification, there's always potential for things to fail. Using common sense and practicing proper installation procedure can address the risks almost completely. Much of the bad rep in my opinion is from those that have installed them incorrectly, or used too much spacer. Just as with mounting a wheel, if one doesn't install and torque the bolts correctly, wheels can and will come off.

Two main mitigations IMO to using spacers. Torque twice, using proper tools. Once upon initial installation. Again after 50-100 miles to make sure things are still torqued in case metal and studs have taken a set. Apply loctite when torqueing the second time.
 
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In regaurds to spacers, I have ran many on many trucks / builds ( 8?) and never had an issue. This is one of the cheapest, and most rewarding mods IMO. It just changes the stance of a vehicle for the better and is very visually pleasing if you are running after market tires / lifted or not. Also, as much as I am here in mud, when’s the last time someone actually complained about a spacer failure/ issue? Seems more like a old hokey folk story at this point. I like to add loc tite to the inner lug nuts as a safety precaution. 1.25” spacers to bring the tires flush on most Toyota’s when running stock wheels. There’s some cheap China metal eBay options out there, but for just a little more money you might as well go with the 2 companies with great wheel spacers reputation, Bora and Spider traxx. I’m sure there are others, but those 2 companies are highly regarded by many.
 
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itrsteve said:
OOOhh, is there a thread for this gathering? Almost like a support group for people that have depreciation anxiety
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HAHA!! This comment is amazing. Depreciation (or fear of it) drives most of my purchase decisions. The LC+911 combo is amazing, yet when done right also won’t cost in maintenance or depreciation. We’ve found a cheat code ;)
 
itrsteve said:
OOOhh, is there a thread for this gathering? Almost like a support group for people that have depreciation anxiety
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The below might as well be the unofficial thread for that..

forum.ih8mud.com

Just curious, what's your OTHER vehicle?

My "wife's car" is the LC200 (aka Marshmallow). Me? I drive a 2010 civic that just won't die, but I hope will die in 3 years. I may get a Prius to save on gas (I know, I know), or just may say forget it and get a used Lexus IS-F. Maybe even a pickup? (Read: Raptor)
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HGB said:
HAHA!! This comment is amazing. Depreciation (or fear of it) drives most of my purchase decisions. The LC+911 combo is amazing, yet when done right also won’t cost in maintenance or depreciation. We’ve found a cheat code ;)
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That's so true. Get these cars in the right part of the depreciation curve, and depreciation can be practically non-existent. Cheat code indeed.
 
First time Land Cruiser owner -- just came over from the LR3. Really like the new Defender, but I'm scared of the gremlins. I've got to say, my 12 year old LR3 has been great, but it was time to upgrade. Just bought this yesterday. Not totally in love with the full blackout, but I like the lack of chrome and the Slee sliders. 2020 with 8700 miles on it. Just about perfect. Need to yank the third row out and deal with those scars. What else?
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