100 Series Prices

[excessive]

Very interesting thread. i predict that the prices will not stay as they are, i think they will drop slightly over the next 6 months, and then level off and stay steady for the long term. with 7% + inflation, i'd rather have my extra money sitting in cruisers than in a bank

 

[MycoManiac]

Very interesting thread. i predict that the prices will not stay as they are, i think they will drop slightly over the next 6 months, and then level off and stay steady for the long term. with 7% + inflation, i'd rather have my extra money sitting in cruisers than in a bank

I sort of think the same thing.

I’ve noticed way more 100s sitting for longer. Mostly the 250k plus trucks that people are asking 15-20 for. Realistically those trucks should be around 12-14 in this market, if they’re taken care of.

We will see a correction, then a sell off when that correction comes, and prices should level out while increasing for “classic car” appreciation. Could be a little funky with cruisers, but I fully expect a correction sometime this year. Feel like it’s already happening as gas prices soar.

 

[BullElk]

Not hating, you just have more than I do, and I don’t want to be classified as a hoarder yet

I’m not a hoarder or a dealer. I’m a frequent to extensive user.

 

[D21FJ60]

When people quote average annual miles they're talking about newish cars, not old ones. Most cars over 8-10 years old get relegated to 2nd, 3rd or 4th car status and don't get driven that much. That's what's different about LCs and LXs - people keep driving them because they're good. I'm sure the average miles per year falls off some on LCs and LXs but not nearly as much as conventionally built cars.

This, I bought my 100 series almost exactly 2 years ago. I've put about 9k miles on it since then.

 

[Wah00]

Cross over to the 200 series classified and these dummies think they can get 20k more than the vehicle cost them to buy new. Oh but it has a roof rack and plenty of pretend off road gear.

Weirdly, many actually can. Buddy of mine sold his Heritage for $25k more than he paid new after driving it for a year. And he wasn’t trying to sell - someone kept upping their unsolicited offer until he gave in.

 

[Njck22]

I plan to drive my 100 series forever. Because it's an amazing truck. so I really don't care at all what it's worth. 10k or 50k I'm still gonna drive it. the idea of "parking" a cruiser to preserve it is silly to me. preserve for what? your casket? Life is short. the value of landcruiser is not an aesthetic one, it's value comes out when it is driven. How can you say landcruisers are amazing when you just keep it hidden away?

Land cruisers are not fancy watches. No one is going to value you more because you drive one, or look at you with envy. You can wear them like one, but at the end of the day its just a mass produced SUV. the most reliable SUV, but mass produced nonetheless. So if you're buying one because it's "trending" or "increasing in value", I hope your identity is based on more than your possessions.

 

[GTV]

I plan to drive my 100 series forever. Because it's an amazing truck. so I really don't care at all what it's worth. 10k or 50k I'm still gonna drive it. the idea of "parking" a cruiser to preserve it is silly to me. preserve for what? your casket? Life is short. the value of landcruiser is not an aesthetic one, it's value comes out when it is driven. How can you say landcruisers are amazing when you just keep it hidden away?

Land cruisers are not fancy watches. No one is going to value you more because you drive one, or look at you with envy. You can wear them like one, but at the end of the day its just a mass produced SUV. the most reliable SUV, but mass produced nonetheless. So if you're buying one because it's "trending" or "increasing in value", I hope your identity is based on more than your possessions.

In a way I agree with you. However, this is the same process that every car that is now considered a classic has gone through. Mass produced or not.

 

[fro20fow]

Value is a weird concept. It never made sense that a new car value drops 20% when its driven off the lot. Seeing cars with low mileage and a couple years old selling at or near MSRP makes much more sense.

however, the current situation is supply and demand + MSRP limitations.

dealers have low new vehicle allocation and generally limited by how much over MSRP they can sell them for. So with low new inventory, they realize they should sell used vehicles for more. all Vehicles across the board are up. Land cruisers are not special and eventually things will get caught up but no one knows when. Could be this year could be a few years.

 

[Njck22]

In a way I agree with you. However, this is the same process that every car that is now considered a classic has gone through. Mass produced or not.

I think the 60's, and 80's, and other classic truck's current inflated value, is based around the aesthetics. It's a classic look and easily converted to that poser offroader/mall crawler look that everyone loves these days.
What I propose is that the landcruiser 100 wont be classic in the way that 60s and 80s are becoming. The landcruiser 100's value is rooted in it's reliability. 100s will become valuable, but never in the same way as other classics. The 100's value is shown through when you drive it, when you rack up smooth, comfortable, and worry-free miles. Not in how it looks with concours paint sitting in a showroom. And that's what classic car buyers want. But if you can find me an exception, I'm very curious. I suppose some part of the value of owning a hundred is the "knowing" that you have something so great, even if you abstain from that greatness by not driving it. Seems silly but that's humans I guess.

 

[AlpineAccess]

I think the 60's, and 80's, and other classic truck's current inflated value, is based around the aesthetics. It's a classic look and easily converted to that poser offroader/mall crawler look that everyone loves these days.
What I propose is that the landcruiser 100 wont be classic in the way that 60s and 80s are becoming. The landcruiser 100's value is rooted in it's reliability. 100s will become valuable, but never in the same way as other classics. The 100's value is shown through when you drive it, when you rack up smooth, comfortable, and worry-free miles. Not in how it looks with concours paint sitting in a showroom. And that's what classic car buyers want. But if you can find me an exception, I'm very curious. I suppose some part of the value of owning a hundred is the "knowing" that you have something so great, even if you abstain from that greatness by not driving it. Seems silly but that's humans I guess.

I'm not really sure I understand this commentary other than maybe its just a regional thing with people buying older cruisers to polishing and look at them? I've heard there are a lot of guys who read a Jack Carr book and then see Joe Rogan's 60 build and want to have something like it. I don't have social media but I imagine this is pretty visible there.

The 60's and 80's I've wheeled with are different beasts than a 100. 60's are absolute work horses and 80's are the culmination of everything Toyota knew about making a solid axle rig comfortable and capable. Both the 60 and 80 have decades of additional history proving their reliability over a 100. The 100 also has a long list of issues, and requires frequent (and specialized) service to be maintained properly.

The 100 is in my opinion, a comfortable cruising vehicle and a decent off road vehicle. I think its a good trade off for my personal use.

That being said I think the diesel 105 is about as good of a vehicle as Toyota has ever made.

 

[BullElk]

The 100 also has a long list of issues, and requires frequent (and specialized) service to be maintained properly.

Huh? Then I must be doing something wrong.

 

[nissanh]

Ive been in the market to get a 200 for nearly 6-8 months. Landcruiser pricess are high compared to LX versions. because LX's are still available (LX 600, 2022) but now LC's But I notice the prices of Landcruisers are also coming down. I recently missed a 2000 LC with 167K miles in El Paso for $6000! I was just a day late!

Now that the Sequoia 2022 is out, it is a good candicate too. I also test drove a Nissan Y62 Armada, so I am open for all 3.

 

[sr5pickup]

The 100 also has a long list of issues, and requires frequent (and specialized) service to be maintained properly.

 

[DBULL]

So,after owning two fj80’s I decided I needed another Landcruiser to use in my metal detecting/civil war hobby. I got lucky and landed a 2006 LX with 159k.I drive around 7,000 miles annually so gas mileage is of little concern.I really like having that much metal around me along with all of the safety features.Being nine years into the model run means most of the“bugs” have been worked out(the extra HP is nice,also).My only drawback is that this LX is near perfect underneath making it very hard to justify taking it across muddy fields,which was my original reason for purchase.As far as valuations go supply and demand should stabilize prices,especially for the 06/07 models.

 

[Bisho]

So,after owning two fj80’s I decided I needed another Landcruiser to use in my metal detecting/civil war hobby. I got lucky and landed a 2006 LX with 159k.I drive around 7,000 miles annually so gas mileage is of little concern.I really like having that much metal around me along with all of the safety features.Being nine years into the model run means most of the“bugs” have been worked out(the extra HP is nice,also).My only drawback is that this LX is near perfect underneath making it very hard to justify taking it across muddy fields,which was my original reason for purchase.As far as valuations go supply and demand should stabilize prices,especially for the 06/07 models.

Ih8mud, but it washes off. (mostly)

 

[97 AZ LC]

Being nine years into the model run means most of the“bugs” have been worked out

Not so. They didn't even start introducing bugs until 2000. By 2006 they were introducing bugs at a breakneck pace.

 

[newbielx470]

Some good condition ones are being shipped and sold to overseas (Asia, Russia) for much higher. Hundy is gaining its cult status in many parts of the world like the 80s. The international dealers actually make most profit buying from US/Canada. Also some countries don't allow 60s and 80s on the road anymore because of airbag and smog requirements.

 

[100d ua]

Unfortunately, most shop and most DIY service is done wrong, if at all.

That's is why I qualified reliability with "Properly Maintained".

I don't post much of what I find, others have messed up maintaining these days. Just to busy correcting the mess ups.

Toyota gave us a PM schedule. Follow it with the FSM in hand. Than they're very reliable, derivable anywhere, most any road condition on or off road and most any weather.

~20 year now and only thing I drive. In that time, I did fail to start once. Bad alternate. Which served me right, for driving around for 2 winters without #1 & #2 understandings to protect it. Took all of 5 minutes to pop in new battery, back on road. New alternate took another hour to install, later that day. I could,'t have been luckier. I was at Toyota Dealership at the time. Parts guys lent me a new battery and alternator, which I paid for once sure I needed and installed.

I definitely wouldn't qualify it as DIY gone wrong. Most of the issues I have experienced with the LC have been stupid things like replacing OEM Toyota parts and them failing within weeks, diff lock actuators (those never fail hurr hurr hurr), expensive ass CV axles, expensive ass brake boosters, and the ever so lovely driveline clunk and 60-75 MPH vibration that literally NOBODY on here can pinpoint, among other oddities like clunks and pops that make the driving experience sub standard.

This thing has been great to DIY on, most of everything can be done easily by someone with little to no mechanical aptitude and there's tons of resources on here. But this is not a car I would consider to be one of my most comfortably reliable vehicles.

 

[OEMGUY0720]

The Lc and the Lx demand is not just here in North America, it’s global. Many put US-based Lc/Lx on a container and ship it all around the world (mostly goes to the middle east), this is BIG money.

 

[Manhattan]

We bought a new 2019 Acura RDX for my wife three years ago. We're selling it - not trading it in - back to the same dealership for what we paid for it. So, three years later, the retail price of our nondescript, noncollectable Acura is now the wholesale price. It was effectively a free car.

We checked the values of the cars we bought our daughters before the pandemic - 2016 and 2018 Mazdas. Both are worth well above what we paid.

Then my wife said "Should we sell the Land Cruiser?" I haven't spoken to her since.