Few clarifying points. Folks need to lighten up and have a better sense of humor around here.
1. I will 100% admit to "rage baiting" 200 owners. Largely because I stand by my statement that MOST of the online hate toward 250s is from 200 owner because of some sort of inferiority complex.... Some light internet trolling now an then is ok! It is always in good fun! its 2025 and you can love any car you want! Were all here because we hate mud....except for the Aussies....i still dont know why they're here....
However! as a self respecting 80 series and now new 250 series owner, we have to continue the tradition of scoffing at other (lesser) Land Cruisers and the people who drive them! (obviously jokes guys)
Though personally i have never liked the asthetics or styles of the 200 series compared to the 60, 80 and 70 series LCs. For the prices they sell at, i find it hard to believe it is a better "buy" than a lot of other options for folks that use them off road on a daily basis. (honest opinion)
2. @hoser The life time powertrain warranty is very real and does not cost extra. Infact i posted the "fine print" here in this thread (pg25) for those who wish to read it. Autonation warranty backed by Fidelity. You can say "its baked into the cost" but idk what that means when Autonation is selling them cheaper than anyone else.
>2a. To be clear, when i posted the 200 for sale at $53k with 100k miles on it, idk what planet folks are living on, but theres no world where the cost of ownership on that vehicle is better than buying a new 250 with a lifetime powertrain warranty. The depreciation schedule posted does not take into account repairs or total cost of ownership. If you want to argue this point, please post a link to your excel model for review by the class. Comparatively, Mine for the 250 will show the same depreciation rate and $0 in repairs for the entire term. Assuming standard market condtions, there is no reason to assume the 250 will depreciate any different than the other generations of LCs.
That 200 series Depreciation Schedule also benifited from covid when we saw a 10-15% increase in the price of used suv/trucks as well as 30% rise in inflation over the 8 year period. (I purchased a 2019 F150 w 20k miles for $28K in March 2020. In January the next year i had a dealer offer $41k. This will most likely not be the case on a go forward basis). It is not credible to assume the 2017 200 will reflect the same depreciation rate for the 2025 to 2030 period.
3. Holy smokes that video of the 250 vs 200 on the track was pretty sweet right?
1. I will 100% admit to "rage baiting" 200 owners. Largely because I stand by my statement that MOST of the online hate toward 250s is from 200 owner because of some sort of inferiority complex.... Some light internet trolling now an then is ok! It is always in good fun! its 2025 and you can love any car you want! Were all here because we hate mud....except for the Aussies....i still dont know why they're here....
However! as a self respecting 80 series and now new 250 series owner, we have to continue the tradition of scoffing at other (lesser) Land Cruisers and the people who drive them! (obviously jokes guys)
Though personally i have never liked the asthetics or styles of the 200 series compared to the 60, 80 and 70 series LCs. For the prices they sell at, i find it hard to believe it is a better "buy" than a lot of other options for folks that use them off road on a daily basis. (honest opinion)
2. @hoser The life time powertrain warranty is very real and does not cost extra. Infact i posted the "fine print" here in this thread (pg25) for those who wish to read it. Autonation warranty backed by Fidelity. You can say "its baked into the cost" but idk what that means when Autonation is selling them cheaper than anyone else.
>2a. To be clear, when i posted the 200 for sale at $53k with 100k miles on it, idk what planet folks are living on, but theres no world where the cost of ownership on that vehicle is better than buying a new 250 with a lifetime powertrain warranty. The depreciation schedule posted does not take into account repairs or total cost of ownership. If you want to argue this point, please post a link to your excel model for review by the class. Comparatively, Mine for the 250 will show the same depreciation rate and $0 in repairs for the entire term. Assuming standard market condtions, there is no reason to assume the 250 will depreciate any different than the other generations of LCs.
That 200 series Depreciation Schedule also benifited from covid when we saw a 10-15% increase in the price of used suv/trucks as well as 30% rise in inflation over the 8 year period. (I purchased a 2019 F150 w 20k miles for $28K in March 2020. In January the next year i had a dealer offer $41k. This will most likely not be the case on a go forward basis). It is not credible to assume the 2017 200 will reflect the same depreciation rate for the 2025 to 2030 period.
3. Holy smokes that video of the 250 vs 200 on the track was pretty sweet right?
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