The Ineos Grenadier keeps calling me, the utilitarian feel is like a siren song pulling me in
Same price as a FE LC, getting harder to resist
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The Ineos Grenadier keeps calling me, the utilitarian feel is like a siren song pulling me in
Same price as a FE LC, getting harder to resist
Hiluxforever
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I am just glad the Ineos is not available with a stick shift, or it would be too much to resist.
Japanese Katana vs French Zweihänder, I'd trust the made in Japan one, The Grenadier might grenade itself a lot sooner than the Japanese one seppukus lol, Man Im a nerd but a tasteful nerdThe Ineos Grenadier keeps calling me, the utilitarian feel is like a siren song pulling me in
Same price as a FE LC, getting harder to resist
SanJuanJ
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I like the looks and the concept, but I can't imagine driving any vehicle that's slower than my 5th gen 4Runner.The Ineos Grenadier keeps calling me, the utilitarian feel is like a siren song pulling me in
Same price as a FE LC, getting harder to resist
It's not something I'd want to be seen in on backroads down here in the Ozarks. Frankly it looks like something a pompous, high-income fly fisherman from the upper-crust suburbs would drive. The kind of person that looks at the local hillbillies with disdain while declining to wave at the incoming traffic he meets on the gravel road leading to the fishing hole.
I have a feeling that's the target demographic for Ineos. And just maybe that demographic has no idea how they look to the residents of the places they go to
.SanJuanJ
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wowIt's not something I'd want to be seen in on backroads down here in the Ozarks. Frankly it looks like something a pompous, high-income fly fisherman from the upper-crust suburbs would drive. The kind of person that looks at the local hillbillies with disdain while declining to wave at the incoming traffic he meets on the gravel road leading to the fishing hole.
I have a feeling that's the target demographic for Ineos. And just maybe that demographic has no idea how they look to the residents of the places they go to
There’s a little truth in what he said. Here in North Texas Ineos is sold by Sewell which is a upmarket, luxury dealer.
hoser
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It'll be faster than your 4runner at altitude. The B58 engine also takes well to engine tunes... should somebody want to go that route.
Stereotypes exist for a reason
.I spent a lot of my childhood one on several of our blue-ribbon trout streams. We ran into those kind of people all of the time. I found them to be arrogant, lacking in self awareness, and often bad at fishing. They acted annoyed by the mere presence of us locals.
However I felt some of the self-awareness they may have been lacking the first time I loaded my then-new titanium, wireless-shifted gravel bike on top of my lifted Lexus....
yep, stereotypes are always partially true…but they cut both ways. Those “rich” fly fisherman probably had stereotypes for you…I wonder what they were thinking?Stereotypes exist for a reason
I spent a lot of my childhood one on several of our blue-ribbon trout streams. We ran into those kind of people all of the time. I found them to be arrogant, lacking in self awareness, and often bad at fishing. They acted annoyed by the mere presence of us locals.
However I felt some of the self-awareness they may have been lacking the first time I loaded my then-new titanium, wireless-shifted gravel bike on top of my lifted Lexus....
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Usually they were frustrated by us. Happens when you get out-fished by hillbilly kids with Wal-Mart spinning wheels and rooster tailsyep, stereotypes are always partially true…but they cut both ways. Those “rich” fly fisherman probably had stereotypes for you…I wonder what they were thinking?
.It's kind of funny as now, a few decades later, I'm in the same bracket of educational, career, and income attainment as they were at the same age. But I still have a deep seated aversion to ever looking or acting like one of "those" people.
joseywales
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Ok, fill me in on this. I haven’t seen a generator thingy on my 1958, and I have noticed my battery is at 1/2 or 5/8 full at best. I’m obviously missing something?
It’s like a brand new 60 series with tech. I love it!
It’s crazy to think about how deeply linked automobiles are to our impressions of ourselves and others. Maybe it’s because cars are so expensive for most people, they became linked to social status and our psyche. I can feel it in myself deeply, it’s like your brain can make instant assumptions about the occupants of other vehicles and I have no doubt it’s shaped by your upbringing and social status. I think it’s part of being human and I would guess the auto makers and their marketing and design teams know a great deal about how this relates to their products and their costumers.Usually they were frustrated by us. Happens when you get out-fished by hillbilly kids with Wal-Mart spinning wheels and rooster tails
It's kind of funny as now, a few decades later, I'm in the same bracket of educational, career, and income attainment as they were at the same age. But I still have a deep seated aversion to ever looking or acting like one of "those" people.
Catching Neutral
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It’s why many people buy cars they can’t afford to impress people they don’t know .
Some of the "poorest" people I know drive the fanciest, newest, most expensive cars. Some of the wealthiest people I know drive humble ol' Toyota and maybe splurged on a Lexus. Of course there are exceptions to this but as I grew older and started taking my finances seriously I found it to be an interesting observation.
Of course there are exceptions to this but as I grew older and started taking my finances seriously I found it to be an interesting observation.Few things do a better job of keeping folks poor and indebted better than a lack of understanding of how money works and an inability to delay gratification. Amazing how many people have to spend every dollar they have - and a lot of dollars they don't have - to get things they don't need - as opposed to spending/investing it wisely. It's one of the reasons I still have a 18 year-old GX as my daily, instead of blowing $80K+ on a new GX550.Some of the "poorest" people I know drive the fanciest, newest, most expensive cars. Some of the wealthiest people I know drive humble ol' Toyota and maybe splurged on a Lexus.
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Some of the "poorest" people I know drive the fanciest, newest, most expensive cars. Some of the wealthiest people I know drive humble ol' Toyota and maybe splurged on a Lexus.
I have a friend who is near-billionaire. He drives the Ford Explorer version of the Lincoln - can't remember what it's called. He bought it used, too. He couldn't care less what anyone thinks about what he drives. He liked it so he bought it.
He's playing with dollars; I'm playing with nickels. But I've always enjoyed nice cars. Here is a partial list of the cars I've owned:
2 Honda Accords
1 Toyota Camry
4 Ferraris
2 Mercedes MLs
1 Mercedes GL
1 Mercedes C220
1 Mercedes C280
1 4Runner
1 Landcruiser (200 - current)
1 Lexus NX
3 RXs
2 GX 450s
2 LX 470s
1 LX 570
1 LX 600
2 BMW 3 series
2 BMW 5 series
1 BMW 7 series
1 Buick
1 Oldsmobile
1 Dodge
1 Ford Ranchero
1 Ford Expedition
2 Tahoes
2 Land Rover LR3s
1 Range Rover Sport
1 Land Rover Defender
1 Mercury
1 Isuzu Trooper
1 Volkswagen Sciroccco
1 Infiniti
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The very worst of these cars were the Mercedes ML, GL, and Dodge Durango. All of them pretty awful. The BMW 5s were really good, solid cars. All of the Toyotas and Lexus were solid. The best factory paint job was easily the 1982 Volkswagen Scirocco. The Trooper was probably the most fun. 4 banger and tough as a boot. I strapped Christmas trees on top of that thing several years. I gave $2K for it and sold it two years later for the same.
Those Isuzu troopers were fantastic rigs. The low tension piston rings were faulty from the factory and would consume oil, but beyond that, they were tough as nails.
For a beater Japanese SUV, they are hard to beat value wise.
I had the same experience. Bought one for $2,500 in college and used that for many years, no repair bills except for throwing some oil in it every other gas fill-up, and sold the thing for 4k during the Covid craze.
Catching Neutral
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Our first “new” car in 15 years
