Your Thoughts on the LC 250? (28 Viewers)
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I really respect this current gen Defender.
I know the old school purists will hate it but its selling better than ever and it's the reason we have the 250 Prado looking the way it does today
If I am not mistaken, design freeze of 250 happened after they saw the new Defender.
What they did to the Defender was brave but it succeeded and it was a smart move.
Towards the end of its lifecycle, the older Defender had already been defeated pretty much in global off-road/fleet/UN/NGO sales by the 70 series. The decision to discontinue it and go a different direction was very smart.
I know the old school purists will hate it but its selling better than ever and it's the reason we have the 250 Prado looking the way it does today
If I am not mistaken, design freeze of 250 happened after they saw the new Defender.
What they did to the Defender was brave but it succeeded and it was a smart move.
Towards the end of its lifecycle, the older Defender had already been defeated pretty much in global off-road/fleet/UN/NGO sales by the 70 series. The decision to discontinue it and go a different direction was very smart.
Diff Kraken
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This looks promising:
Diff Kraken
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Hi,
New user here. I haven't read the full 22 pages but I just wanted to give my 2c.
For me this car is a blessing. I purchased a 3-door LC "Prado" 150 back in 2017 and even if I'm love with it, it has became a liability. I purchased it while having a girlfriend because we live in a rural area and our main hobby is mountaineering, but now that we're married, have a daughter and a second one about to be born...
When looking for 5-door SUVs I hated everything I saw so I was pretty much settled in the 5-door version of my own prado 150. Mind there are way less options in Spain (no 4runner, no gx550, etc) and most of them are really expensive (wrangler, bronco, defender, grenadier... All at 90k+).
So when Toyota announced the 250 I was in awe. I loved the retro look and it had a great crompomise between beign a family SUV and a real off-roader. Just what I needed. And the price, even if 15k more than the previous 150 5d prado it is still 15k less than competitors.
New user here. I haven't read the full 22 pages but I just wanted to give my 2c.
For me this car is a blessing. I purchased a 3-door LC "Prado" 150 back in 2017 and even if I'm love with it, it has became a liability. I purchased it while having a girlfriend because we live in a rural area and our main hobby is mountaineering, but now that we're married, have a daughter and a second one about to be born...
When looking for 5-door SUVs I hated everything I saw so I was pretty much settled in the 5-door version of my own prado 150. Mind there are way less options in Spain (no 4runner, no gx550, etc) and most of them are really expensive (wrangler, bronco, defender, grenadier... All at 90k+).
So when Toyota announced the 250 I was in awe. I loved the retro look and it had a great crompomise between beign a family SUV and a real off-roader. Just what I needed. And the price, even if 15k more than the previous 150 5d prado it is still 15k less than competitors.
Sorry for the cynical reply and I know this is about taste, so not very helpful to argue about. It looks to be me like a dressed up Suzuki Jimmy. I am sure many other would love it so please go for it. It may grow on me in real F2F.
Hiluxforever
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Honestly would prefer the Jimny.
GTV
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For sure! I was just down in Mexico and they really seemed to be gaining in popularity. I wouldn't trade my LC for one but a Jimny would compliment it very well.
Diff Kraken
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I think we're all getting a little too down in the weeds on all this. It's a Made in Japan body on frame IFS Toyota wagon with 4 wheels and a 4-lo transfer case. For the vast majority of use cases, these trucks are basically the same thing- and all of them are outstanding (100, 120, 150, 200, 250, 300). And where the 120/150 had few weaknesses, the 250 seems to have significant improvements.
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Hiluxforever
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Currently drive a LX470 2004, 112,000 miles on her, excellent vehicle! Had a 1994 FJ80 drove until 239,000 and sold it (mistake), next wife drove an RX300, then GX460 and now the LX470. All fantastic vehicles! I drive a Tundra, I'm thinking when the LC250s are 3-4 years old will buy a used one to replace the LX470. Hoping the LX470 will appreciate and maybe at that time be worth 25-30K, we will see as it will have about 120,000 miles on it at that time. Live behind the Redwood curtain, every thing is close to home, so drive 2-3,000 miles annually.
Finally, took the opportunity yesterday afternoon over my lunch break to test drive a 1958 (Landcruiser version wasn't available) after crawling around them at various auto shows/expo and I was somewhat disappointed as it didn't overly impress me in the driving department. Maybe, I just need some more seat time in one but I'm going to stick with my current Tacoma. I still like the vehicle compared to the new 4runner.
4 banger
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I would rent a 250 and make sure I like the way it’s build and the hybrid workings. Perhaps the way you plan to do it allows for an extensive test drive, advisable in any case when purchasing a second hand. You could also cross shop with other Toyota/Lexus products although taste comes in to play.
So far I’ve been able to get past everything that everyone tried to tell me I wouldn’t like. I mean you have to accept that this is a different cruiser than any others you’ve owned if you’ve owned any others? However, I just choose to enjoy it.
Catching Neutral
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…your not going to let the ruin your fun? I am shocked.
I'm still getting to know my 250 premium
Here's the things I like, I might edit this later and add to this as things dawn on me.
PROS
It's a new design
The Leather feels excellent, the dash feels great, the layout in the 250 lc driver seat is a huge win, all the materials feel like quality. some people mistake the plastic on the outside as a con but the fact that it was designed to be replaced in different sections if it were to get trail damage is a huge plus. its a well thought out design.
The Tech it's AMAZING. The Cameras are high quality and don't look like a potato
the Driver seat feels like you're in command
One of the best looking LCS to come out imo
I like the turbo 4banger plenty enough power for me
I like the Hybrid I like the ability to charge up battery banks, camping, its like having a honda generator anywhere I go
The way it drives
The fact that they finally gave us the Toyota version of Land Cruiser Prado aka light duty land cruiser.
the fact mines made in the Toyota Tahara Factory gives me a little more joy.
CONS
Needs Premium Fuel (I Justify the better mpg to make this ok.)
The Cargo area battery taking up space (This one sucks I wish they found a way to implement this somewhere else less invasive. but again it might be worth the trade off of charging things because you ARE essentially hauling around a generator)
No Tailgate (I'm planning on waiting until someone releases a slide out table or build my own) Overall I'm happy with it. Is it perfect? Nope but no vechile is perfect they all have their pros and cons. Anyway, I'm still getting to know it.
Here's the things I like, I might edit this later and add to this as things dawn on me.
PROS
It's a new design
The Leather feels excellent, the dash feels great, the layout in the 250 lc driver seat is a huge win, all the materials feel like quality. some people mistake the plastic on the outside as a con but the fact that it was designed to be replaced in different sections if it were to get trail damage is a huge plus. its a well thought out design.
The Tech it's AMAZING. The Cameras are high quality and don't look like a potato
the Driver seat feels like you're in command
One of the best looking LCS to come out imo
I like the turbo 4banger plenty enough power for me
I like the Hybrid I like the ability to charge up battery banks, camping, its like having a honda generator anywhere I go
The way it drives
The fact that they finally gave us the Toyota version of Land Cruiser Prado aka light duty land cruiser.
the fact mines made in the Toyota Tahara Factory gives me a little more joy.
CONS
Needs Premium Fuel (I Justify the better mpg to make this ok.)
The Cargo area battery taking up space (This one sucks I wish they found a way to implement this somewhere else less invasive. but again it might be worth the trade off of charging things because you ARE essentially hauling around a generator)
No Tailgate (I'm planning on waiting until someone releases a slide out table or build my own) Overall I'm happy with it. Is it perfect? Nope but no vechile is perfect they all have their pros and cons. Anyway, I'm still getting to know it.
Yep - I like the hybrid, though admit, if they offered the diesel I’d likely have jumped on it. The hybrid is my only “concern” long-term, though the fact it’s a Toyota and they have been making hybrids for decades I’m not all that worried. Not to mention, love the torque it provides; entering the highway on my daily commute I often hit 80 without realizing it.
The hybrid “generator” is a great feature - they should make it “on” all the time rather than having to do it every-time you start up.
My only other “wish” would be to relocate the spare to the tailgate from the factory and make the tank larger. I’ll eventually get there with the aftermarket but would be a bonus from factory.
I’m still loving the utilitarian look/feel of the 1958. Even the base model has a mess of features. I didn’t like all the plush/luxury oriented LC variants previously offered in the US. I think the 1958 nailed it in this regard.
