York Onboard Air Kit interest? (1 Viewer)

[lumpdog]

So after building my setup, I have had numerous requests to produce some more brackets for mounting the York. At first I was reluctant to do so, but after much abuse I am going to try to make some.

First off, here is the thread about my system:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/198339-neat-oba-write-up.html


Here is a thread with some info as well.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/208201-project-onboard-air-york-compressor.html



I would like to have a local fab shop make these up, and I may be doing a sheet of plasma cut pieces for him to weld up. The question I have is, what is my price range that will still keep people interested in these?

Remember some of the key points of my setup:

1. Mounts a York for OBA!!
2. Eliminates the need for another belt and simplifies belt replacement and adjustment.
3. Allows the use of the OEM second battery tray.
4. The mount is short which equals less stress on the head.
5. And anything else I can think of.


Possible down sides:

1. Fitment may not be a one size fits all. May be dependent on type of clutch and hose connections on top of head.

2. Can't think of any others at this time....



So, if I could keep the price down to say $125 or less, who would be seriously interested.

(If this goes well, I may have to do a slider test run as well, but let's try to keep this thread on topic)

 

[AppleTech]

1st in line! Glad we could convince you to do it!!!

 

[AppleTech]

I was thinking of a way to make it a little more "one size fits all" - Obviously the belt is tensioned by the holes on the york-mount face being slotted vertically to allow up/down movement of the compressor to tension the belt. What if on the engine-mount face you make the holes horizontally slotted to allow for more precise line-up with the belt line?

Not sure if your design already has this or not, but it seems like a simple solution?

 

[lumpdog]

I was thinking of a way to make it a little more "one size fits all" - Obviously the belt is tensioned by the holes on the york-mount face being slotted vertically to allow up/down movement of the compressor to tension the belt. What if on the engine-mount face you make the holes horizontally slotted to allow for more precise line-up with the belt line?

Not sure if your design already has this or not, but it seems like a simple solution?

It would make tightening it up a real PITA, because you would have two planes of movement to try to align. I have thought about using a two piece bracket that allows for adjustability, but then price and fitment because an issue again. From what I have seen, most of the Yorks use the same pulley offset. I will try to measure them up and see.

 

[EricG]

Yep, I'm in!
Any chance of doing that heater hose flange as part of the kit?

 

[EricG]

It would make tightening it up a real PITA, because you would have two planes of movement to try to align. I have thought about using a two piece bracket that allows for adjustability, but then price and fitment because an issue again. From what I have seen, most of the Yorks use the same pulley offset. I will try to measure them up and see.

If you like, I'll measure the one out in my shop tomorrow for another data point.

 

[AppleTech]

If you like, I'll measure the one out in my shop tomorrow for another data point.

And obviously I've got one as well for another point...

-Phil

 

[lumpdog]

Yep, I'm in!
Any chance of doing that heater hose flange as part of the kit?

Absolutely! I was figuring it into the cost.

For the 95 and later guys I am coming up with a way to reroute the heater hose as well.

And measure them up and PM me the details. I don't want to corrupt any measurements by giving you my measurements.

Measure from the coil mounting surface to the center of each belt groove.

 

[theferg]

Still interested. As always (for me) it's all about the cost...

-Ferg-

 

[chitown40]

An option to save cost and ensure better fitment across the board would be to offer the pieces already cut out as a "kit". I know a few of us have welders but not all the other fancier fab tools like plasma cutters and the like. That way we could weld up the brackets ourselves and do the finish work. Is this idea possible with your agreement with the local shop? Oh, yeah I would also be interested in a heater hose relocation fitting.

 

[flintknapper]

It would make tightening it up a real PITA, because you would have two planes of movement to try to align. I have thought about using a two piece bracket that allows for adjustability, but then price and fitment because an issue again. From what I have seen, most of the Yorks use the same pulley offset. I will try to measure them up and see.

The offset is determined by the clutch/coil assy. and not the York unit itself.

Different manufacturers make assy's. with different offsets.

The most common one will measure 1.687" from the center of the forward most mounting hole to the center of the pulley groove (1st groove) and 2.250" to the second.

If you don't choose to make it adjustable (and I wouldn't) then that needs to be your standard offset IMO.

 

[lumpdog]

I agree, most I have seen are in that configuration as well.

I could offer the pieces separately as well.

 

[96r50]

I'm quite interested in this as well. I don't have a welder nor any welding skillz, so a bolt on version is what I'm hoping for. And $125 or less is definitely good for me!

 

[CreeperSleeper]

I'm in!

 

[lumpdog]

Cool deal! Well I will try to get to some pics up soon and pricing nailed down.

Anybody with the 3fe motors interested in the Sanden setup? Got one here that I helped to design as well.

 

[bhmmapping]

Cool deal! Well I will try to get to some pics up soon and pricing nailed down.

Anybody with the 3fe motors interested in the Sanden setup? Got one here that I helped to design as well.

I'd def. like to see it, along with the body mounted sliders that were mentioned in the original thread.

 

[dgranth]

Count me in...

IIRC, the short hose fittings can be found on Volvos and AMCs, among others. I was under the impression that they could not be obtained anymore, but the post in the other thread about NAPA having the parts may have resolved this issue for the time being. Finding a part number will be gold.

Grant

Possible down sides:

1. Fitment may not be a one size fits all. May be dependent on type of clutch and hose connections on top of head.

2. Can't think of any others at this time....

 

[Firedog]

Count me in! Much better than me trying to recreate what you have (probably cheaper too.....can't seem to get that "measure twice, cut once" thing down....)

 

[hzavarce]

I'm interested too !. I'd like to see how the heater hose relocation will be done on a 97 (it is actually a pipe with no hose)

 

[96r50]

I'm interested too !. I'd like to see how the heater hose relocation will be done on a 97 (it is actually a pipe with no hose)

Good point!