So after getting pretty creative about securing the frame in "space", the suspension went on without a hitch..both axles hung..just waiting for a spring plate from the powder coaters on Tuesday, and I'm ready to put the wheels back on.
Some pic of the rear axle with the new disc brake set up. I had quite a time getting the rear calipers to mount..turned out that the pads I had were wrong..a quick trip to Napa for the right pads, and the whole thing went right together.
I can't see your rear anti-iversion shackles but I believe your front ones are definitely installed incorrectly.
And if your rear shackles are attached to the frame rails by means of perches (which I think they are in your case), then I believe you should do what Eric did and ignore ARB's picture for the rear.
Tom, I am SOOOO confused. I have read every thread I could find, and thought they were correct. I will take some more pictures tomorrow, but I was so sure I was right.
This is a thread that you participated in. Are you saying all the rigs in this thread are wrong? It's the middle of the night. I read your post as I went to bed and have been tossing all night thinking about it, so I got up and did some more reading.
I'm afraid Murphy's been working overtime and your rears are wrong too Dan.
The apex of the triangle must always be at the spring eye.
Here .... I've tried to superimpose a pic from that thread (showing a correctly installed shackle) on top of your pic to show you how they are supposed to go:
Remember to keep all the grease nipples on the outside too.
Do you like doing jigsaw puzzles?
PS. Without weight on your axles your shackle angles will be all up the poo. And this is probably what has encouraged you to install the shackles incorrectly the way you have. (You may find it difficult to fit them correctly because the anti-inversion feature may make the "spare pins" hit the perches while the vehicle has no weight on it.)
Urgent edit..... But perhaps it's your camera angle that makes me think the apex isn't at the spring-eye. (If your camera was looking horizontally straight at a shackle I'd have a better idea.)
And I realise the shape of your shackle is slightly different to the superimposed one. But one pin should still stand out as being at the "apex".
It may be because of the way I have the frame supported, but if the shackles on the picture attached are correct, then I think mine mine are correct. Both the picture you annotated and the picture attached are the right rear. Mine appear to be at a more severe angle, ( I think because I have the frame hanging in mid air with no force upwards) but the inversion bar is inside and towards the top. Am I missing something? (obviously I am)
The thought of removing and positioning all 4 turns my stomach...
I hope you saw my edit in my last post Dan because I have become fearful that it may just be camera-angle that makes me think you have them wrong.
The apex must always be at the spring eye (when you have spring perches as you do). And when I look at your image the apex appears to be at the perch.
And what I'm calling "the apex" is the pin opposite the shortest side.
Here is that image again where I've shown (in red) what I consider to be the shortest side on each shackle plate:
If my eyes are deceiving me and that is NOT the shortest side of your shackle plates, then I've been talking cr#p and you probably already have them set up correctly.
You are correct...exactly the same mistake I made on the front side....Thanks for your patience, and the education mate. I will fix tomorrow and repost..
Thank goodness for this forum...remember that all of this came in boxes with no instructions...
The front is all done and ready for wheels. Everything is cleaned up and torqued correctly. The rear is close.
Thanks for all the help Tom!
It was quite a bugger getting the rear ones installed correctly. I had to use a large bar for leverage to position them correctly, as well as some ratchet straps to apply some gentle persuasion in order to get the anti-inversion pins in.
Largest angle facing in.
Second largest at hanger.
Most acute angle at spring eye.
I imagine it might be resting on the pin with no weight to compress the spring. I guess it's better you flipped those with nothing on the truck to get in the way.
The front is all done and ready for wheels. Everything is cleaned up and torqued correctly. The rear is close.
Thanks for all the help Tom!
It was quite a bugger getting the rear ones installed correctly. I had to use a large bar for leverage to position them correctly, as well as some ratchet straps to apply some gentle persuasion in order to get the anti-inversion pins in.
I still remember the first time ever i installed a leaf springs... on first try it was wrong way around, second tru i realise its a damn back leaf im trying to put on front, third try i try to put the front leaf wrong way around again... When i finally managed to get springs on right place I realised my shackles were upside down
And this was all done in a tiny garage without proper tools.... definately wasnt my day...
