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rebuild every 300k?? thats 186000 miles! WTF are you boys putting in your tanks?
for the record, the FT will always win out for me due to its simplicity, and nothing starts as well as an FT..
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for the record, the FT will always win out for me due to its simplicity, and nothing starts as well as an FT..
I don’t know - it’s commonly accepted that’s their peak life span. Our fuel is lower grade than Europe, I suspect the US too. In general conditions are significantly harsher here, nothing lasts as long. My point wasn’t so much about absolute figures, more that on average the FTE pump lasts a lot longer than the FT pump.
Also, across the board an FTE will always start better than an FT or at the very worst as well as. Assuming equal conditions of course. I do get the FT thing, they’re very attractive, I very almost swapped one into my 105. I ended up going the FTE as I considered overall reliability, power, economy and smoothness would be better. So long as they aren’t molested, Toyota electronics are ultra reliable.
Then there’s all the internal upgrades the FTE got over the FT. The ultimate mechanical engine would be a FT pumped FTE (well true ultimate would be someone putting a P pump on an FTE...)
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A p pump for a daily driver or tourer would be absolutely terrible. They have no timing control which makes the VE pump or the V4 pump way superior for driveability.
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chapel gate
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i personally dont know of anyone who has had there FT pump rebuilt, and plenty are on 300k plus miles. im on 308000 myself, and my 80 has worked hard in the 16 yrs ive had it.
im not sure how harsh external environmental conditions can effect a IP. i would of thought extreme cold rather than heat would have more of a detrimental impact.
ime the FTE takes a whole second longer to start than the FT.
Different story here - I’m not sure of the underlying cause, maybe fuel quality, maybe heat causing thinning and reduction of lubricity of the diesel, maybe heat cycles causing excessive condensation in bulk storage tanks?i personally dont know of anyone who has had there FT pump rebuilt, and plenty are on 300k plus miles. im on 308000 myself, and my 80 has worked hard in the 16 yrs ive had it.
im not sure how harsh external environmental conditions can effect a IP. i would of thought extreme cold rather than heat would have more of a detrimental impact.
ime the FTE takes a whole second longer to start than the FT.
I’d suggest that FTE had a slight fuel supply restriction/bleed back/air leak. It should start at the touch of the key - not even a second let alone a second longer than an FT. They certainly start better than every common rail diesel I’ve been in
Turbo and fuel pump are ancillaries items, not integral to the engine. No different to an AC compressor or water pump
There's no shortage of high mileage HDFTE with the original turbo and original IP
Same as there is with all the HD/HZ series engines.
HDFTE just happens to be the pick of the bunch for all the reasons wedgetail laid out
This is actually Toyota engineering design specifications for most of Toyota's inline 6 engines. Albeit, super conservative. It was mentioned in an SAE paper about the 1FZ-FE back in 1992. I'll try to dig up the document. I've posted it here before many times.
Okay. You’all right and I’m totally wrong. Hope you guys are happy now.
chapel gate
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wouldnt surprise me. the memory fades, but isnt stated somewhere by toyota to change injector lines when changing the timing belt?
Yeah, it does. I believe for the FTEs that have EGR.
@SNLC Do you have those 11291 decals I got for the FTE that specified that?
Not really, I’d have preferred it if you’d come up with some numbers to counter my previous point
100s and 79s both got EGR here, but they only advised to do the injector lines every 150k. It’s to do with injection pressures - they’re much higher in the 100, one of the reasons for better power/economy. Very few people ever do though.
Does anyone know what FTEs didn’t get EGR? There’s a factory blank, something must’ve missed out...
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Its hard to dismiss the experience with these engines in Australia.
I read that approximately 30% of all landcruisers are shipped to Australia, and an even higher portion of diesel engined cruisers.
Some markets don't get diesel engines at all.
Used Landcruisers with this engine sell at 30-50% higher prices than V8 versions. If that doesn't say something, I don't know what does
The non EGR models I’ve seen or heard of have been Middle East or Pakistani models.
Yeah, but any ideas why my bulletproof 1HD-FTE has massive blowby/drinks oil?
It wasn’t taken care of?
Could be any number of reasons."Used Landcruisers with this engine sell at 30-50% higher prices than V8 versions. If that doesn't say something, I don't know what does"
Recently on the FTE conversion page, I have seen post-update 100's with FTE's with asking prices of $35-75kAUD. I'd wager that the gasser doesn't command those kinds of dollars but I don't live there like @mudgudgeon @AussieHJCruza and @wedgetail do so I don't know firsthand. Yes, I know, asking price isn't necessarily selling price. The point is to contrast market value between thirsty gasser versus FTE.
Recently on the FTE conversion page, I have seen post-update 100's with FTE's with asking prices of $35-75kAUD. I'd wager that the gasser doesn't command those kinds of dollars but I don't live there like @mudgudgeon @AussieHJCruza and @wedgetail do so I don't know firsthand. Yes, I know, asking price isn't necessarily selling price. The point is to contrast market value between thirsty gasser versus FTE.
You want me to diagnose it on a single line of text, no information?
Ok.
It was babied and never run in properly. Drive it like you stole it until it's better.
Seriously though, there could be a number of reasons why an individual engine has problems.
It doesn't make the other 100's of thousands built be lemons.
Maybe there was an assembly issue. Maybe it got a bad batch of rings or bad batch of valve seals. Maybe it was mistreated in a past life. Maybe it wasn't maintained properly. Maybe it was babied (diesels actually benefit from working hard).
Have you done a leak down test?
Have you installed a catch can that restricts the PCV line?
Has the engine been rebuilt?
Its common for these series engines to burn oil after a rebuild because people wrap them in cotton wool and drive them like the pistons are made of glass. Working them hard for a while can fix them
I see - so you’re basing all your FTE opinions on one engine? That’s incredibly short sighted. There are hundreds of reasons why yours is faulty, most of them not a fault of the engine. Was it a jap import? They spend most of their time idling in traffic, or a life of short journeys. So the bores would probably be at best partially glazed. The list is almost limitless of causes by a previous owner. But it doesn’t change the fact that across the board FTEs have less problems than any other engine
