Which 255/85/16 is best for Expedition?

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Toyo is now making their Open Country M/T in 255/85R16 for those of us who likes tall skinnies. There's a GREAT thread over at expeditionportal.com posted by "Redline". Not sure if it's kosher to post a link here, but it's easy enough to find if you're interested.

Les Schwab apparently has them in stock, but I haven't been able to locate them in Texas... The dealers I've called say their suppliers have a part number but no availability date.
 
Here's my .02 cents...

For an all around expedition rig where fuel economy is a factor, go with an AT tire. Sure, they don't look cool or sound mean but an AT tire will traverse most surfaces with ease. Considering that we spend 99% of our time driving on the tarmac getting to our destination, it makes little sense to spin those heavy MTs!

My favorite brand of AT tires are the BFG AT (triple sidewall, super quiet, etc.) They're expensive but they last a long time. If you got the funds then buy the real thing vs tires that are "similar" to the BFGs!

Good luck.

edit: BFG doesn't make AT in 255 85 so I guess my comment is moot!
 
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I'm a fan of the Toyo M-55 in this size. The tread blocks on the shoulders of the tire are spaced close enough together that the tires don't get an uneven funky wear pattern on a heavy truck.

The term 10 ply rated is a bit misleading. None of the radials that are 10ply rated have 10 plies. That is a carry over from the old bias ply truck tires.

I run 33x10.5 BFG MT on my cruiser and we have 255/85/16 M55's on the 1 1/4 ton CUCV. Both work well for their application.
 
how do the 255/85 compare to the 33x10.50 in size? They should be pretty close, right?
 
if you can find them ....the rover crowd says the best for exped is the XZL 8.25r16 a 34" tire 9.4?" wide tire...they wear like iron and are SUPER strong

the elusive XL is even harder to find.....here is a pic of the xzl...great tire for extreme use...

for an everyday tire a bit too much....for normal off road...they dont flex...but....for expedition you want a tire that will not fail.

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0695.JPG

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0706.JPG
 
how do the 255/85 compare to the 33x10.50 in size? They should be pretty close, right?

Similar in height, less sidewall bulge for the 16. They look quite different though nominal size should be close.
Here is a lousy side shot with the two trucks back to back. The FJ40 has 33/10.50/15 BFG MT on a 7" wide rim, the chev has 255/85/16 Toyo M55 on a 6.5" rim.
The chev is very heavy and requires the higher load rating tires. It would not be well suited to mud terrains in my opinion. BFG AT's would be alright, but the toyo's have a good reputation for gravel use by forestry companies on their trucks, so that seemed a good endorsement. Those michelins would be great if they were commonly available in N. America.
 
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I've seen a firestone tire in 8.25r16. Big. Noticeably taller than a 33"

I like 'em, but suspect that they ride about as hard as nails.

No $ for vehicle stuff right now, but when I do have a little to spend, I think I'll go with a Firestone Wilderness ATIII in 255/85r16 on 4runner 16" rims. But in these parts, that's probably $1,200 or so, and a hard upgrade to justify vs. a bunch of little things.

if you can find them ....the rover crowd says the best for exped is the XZL 8.25r16 a 34" tire 9.4?" wide tire...they wear like iron and are SUPER strong

the elusive XL is even harder to find.....here is a pic of the xzl...great tire for extreme use...

for an everyday tire a bit too much....for normal off road...they dont flex...but....for expedition you want a tire that will not fail.

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0695.JPG

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0706.JPG
 
No $ for vehicle stuff right now, but when I do have a little to spend, I think I'll go with a Firestone Wilderness ATIII in 255/85r16 on 4runner 16" rims...


Do they make that tire in a 255/85R16? Doesn't show ANYTHING in that size on the Bridgestone/Firestone website.
 
if you can find them ....the rover crowd says the best for exped is the XZL 8.25r16 a 34" tire 9.4?" wide tire...they wear like iron and are SUPER strong

the elusive XL is even harder to find.....here is a pic of the xzl...great tire for extreme use...

for an everyday tire a bit too much....for normal off road...they dont flex...but....for expedition you want a tire that will not fail.

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0695.JPG

http://www.roverhybrids.com/images/DSCN0706.JPG


Even BETTER than the XZL is the XZY!

take a look here...

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I don't know about the website, but I saw a prado about a year ago that looked so good I had to stop and check it out....

The tires were 255/85r16 Firestone Wilderness AT. Not sure if they were ATII or ATIII, or what, but the tread pattern is pretty recognizable, so I'm certain thats what they were.


Do they make that tire in a 255/85R16? Doesn't show ANYTHING in that size on the Bridgestone/Firestone website.
 
I was wondering what type of wheels you had on that land cruiser? I love the look of those black wheels! Thanks,
2003 Land cruiser
 
Anyone know anything on the new Wrangler w/Kevlar. I've only read one article in a 4WD Mag, and it was pretty generic.
 
FLATU8ER,

If you're asking about the "Silent Armor", we had a set of 285/75-R16's on a 3/4 ton Chevy pickup and they SUCKED. Tread wore out fast and during the year or so we had them, we replaced a total of 5 due to unfixable flats. Finally got rid of them a few months ago and got a set of Toyo M-55's. So far they are just about the perfect tire for a combo of about 600 highway miles and 100 dirt/rock/gravel road miles per week. Couldn't be happier!
 
the one I was refering to is the new Wrangler MT with the Kevlar in the side walls. Read afew more articles, and it would appear to be an aggressive/mud oriented AT. As I understand it, the tire will handel only mild mud, as it packs up pretty quickly. It may also show some weird wear charactrristics
 
Toyo m-55
 
So far so good w/ my new GY Duratracs in 265/75/16. Mud/gravel/wet tarmac. Can't wait for snow....

They seem to be a good compromise between an AT & MT w/ low road noise. But go for "C" load rating at a min. 158.00 each at Tire Rack
 
I would also throw out the option of buying a descent used set in a 285 size. Once you decide to firm up the ride via OME Springs, you may reconsider a different tire size or thread pattern. The will keep your switch cost lower. FYI, I run an AT 295 size with my lift.
 
I live in Southern California and have never rock crawled, expeditioned, gone in sand.

I know this 4x4 stuff starts getting expensive real quickly (kind of like a boat does) and I really don't have lot of bananas on hand. So I guess I'm going to take a two pronged approach. The first is to keep Mods to the minimum. The second is not to do the heavy stuff where I am more likely to break my stuff.

I need a tire that can do the Pizmo beach for November's Turf-N-Surf.

I plan on driving up the California coast, into Oregon, through Washington, and into Canada and coming back down through the High Deserts of Eastern Oregon.

I plan on going to the Grand Canyon/Flagstaff, Sedona (nothing too crazy).

I will also be doing New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming.

Not all in the same year....

I figure the tires I am interested in are the Toyo M55, Toyo Open County MT, Yokahama Geolander MT,
Cooper Discoverer ST or SST, BFG MT K or K2, Bridgestone REVO and possibly the Hankook .

I prefer a thinner tire no more than a 265 (for reasons of economy), no taller than 33+" (so that I don't have to regear and not put too much stress on my drivetrain). I don't want a tire shorter than 32".

I prefer a tough tire that is less likely to let me down, but don't wan't to hear the loud humming that comes with some of these MTs.

Am I asking for too much? I don't know, but mainly because I have never 4x4'd. The M55 seem like it could handle all this or can I go with a cheaper easier riding tire that will handle what I want to do?

You need a good A/T to fill those requirements. I have 235x85x16 Bridgestone D694 A/T LT and they take me anywhere except serious mud.
I do mainly sand and beach driving and they are the best
They are totally quiet and have excellant onroad manners
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