What's better offroad, 80 series, or 100 series?

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A fine challenge, but still, if you have seen Pete Parks of www.parksoffroad.com take his Tacoma over the Rubicon like I have, multiple times unscathed, there'd be be people who would think a little differently about IFS, or at least the driver skill thing. I personally believe that it is driver skill 95%, the truck 5%. I too saw a guy, Dave from NM, take his open 40 on 33's across Poison Spider at Moab no problem.

But this is 100 vs 80, not 80 vs Tacoma, so all bets may be off.

In the end, WHO THE FAWK cares? I've wheeled with guys at Paragon in stock 1986 IFS 4Runners, a ton of IFS Tacomas, up to Slee's unreal blue SAS 100 at Moab this year and they're all 4WD Toyotas! :beer: Get a Toyota, any Toyota that floats your boat, build it up and have a blast with it.

One last thing on a 100. If you have the cash, sure, buy one, build it up and wheel it. You'll have the "unique" and "wow, look at that" factor going for you, too. Send me the build and I'll publish it, even! :grinpimp:


I think this guy sums it up pretty well.

As well, Alvaro, I have no interest in the Rubicon 'trail'. If I had an ass load of money in my bank account then I might go to drive the Rubicon. However risking my vehicles to possible severe carnage from a slight mistake isn't what I call practical. As to your 'challenge', is it a fair challenge to someone who has never even seen the Rubicon, to challenge them to a run through it? I am sure it would look great on you, a veteran who knows every boulder and has it WIRED. If I had the time and wanted to subject myself to living amongst Californians to do it, I could wire that trail too. I could get so good at it that I could drive any vehicle through without a scratch. Anyone who is a good driver can do that. So your challenge is ridiculous.
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Give me a break, wheeling credentials?

No, I won't give you a break. You are the one insinuating Beno doesn't know what he is talking about, so you get no break, Bubba. (Unless this is your kid posting again in which case I am very sorry for being harsh with a child.)

-B-
 
What are my wheeling credentials? Let me pull out my portfolio. Give me a break, wheeling credentials? How about 20 years of wheeling experience in Toyota pickups, Nissan Pathfinders, FJ40, FJ55, Rovers, and the new FJC on some tough, muddy, rocky, tight trails. I have run IFS and SFA both and have had no problems with either.


That's OK, Beo doesn't wheel his junk either!:flipoff2:


I have seen ATRAC in action exactly once, and was not impressed. It was on a 100 series on a loose rocky dry climb in Death Valley. Maybe that was not representative, but I'll take the solid predictability of lockers over that crap any day.


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Better change your password again because your kid is over in the Electronic Toys throwing insults at Mark Whatley, one of the most respected Cruiserheads on the planet.

-B-

On Morse Code? Nope, that's me. I for one am glad people don't have to waste their time learning morse code to get a HAM license just to utilize the benefits of HAM radio.
 
No, I won't give you a break. You are the one insinuating Beno doesn't know what he is talking about, so you get no break, Bubba. (Unless this is your kid posting again in which case I am very sorry for being harsh with a child.)

-B-


I insinuated nothing. I figure he's never seen ATRAC truly in action and runs with a lot of people who probably don't have it and doesn't know any better. I watched several rigs just the other day struggle on a large hill climb with loose rock, with one guy taking almost a half hour to get to the top. Once he was up I hit the ATRAC button and glided right up in about 2 minutes.
 
Thats the only place??? :confused:


He likes making friends in a "pardon me do you have any Grey Poupon?" sorta way.....:flipoff2:

Nobody likes you in the FJC section either tntoyota! I almost put you on my ignore list for your idiotic commentary over there.
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Oh but on the subject of 80 or 100 series - personally I like the 80 series better than the 100 series. Asthetics - the 80 is just a much better looking Cruiser than the 100. Don't get me started on the new 200 Highlander!
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On Morse Code? Nope, that's me. I for one am glad people don't have to waste their time learning morse code to get a HAM license just to utilize the benefits of HAM radio.

No Bubba, follow the link. You were bustin' Mark's chops because you didn't like the answer he gave you about an antenna. Your response to Mark was extremely rude, but here are a few of your other quotes to put it in perspective. Hard to tell when your posts stopped and your kid's posts started.

LandCruisers4Life (TexasBadlands) said:
Christo Slee.... has just put his foot in his mouth big time. Now don't you look stupid.

Yeah, sure....... Actually he just confirmed his egotistical attitude, and the fact that he's a jerk. I could see it from his "I know everything" posts in other sections of the board.

No, I am way too busy making a lot of money to be going to 4 wheeling events.

The FJ Cruiser will SPANK your 100 and laugh at it afterwards. I don't need to prove anything, time will be proof and you will eat your words.

Me thinks I will never buy anything from Slee Offroad either.

You sir are reaching the "I slob Christos knob" stage. So does it get you discounts on your parts, or do you even own a Cruiser?


As far as Christo Slee goes, his attitude is $hit about the FJ Cruiser, and so that shows he doesn't deserve my business.
All of the above comments of yours came from this thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=104362



This one is my personal favorite and was posted in the TLCA Land Use section.

Yeah...... Stay on the trail. That is how no new trails ever come about. I am pretty tired of people telling us how to use PUBLIC land. Sometimes a trail begs to be blazed. Discretion is the key to travelling where there is currently no trail.

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That's OK, Beo doesn't wheel his junk either!:flipoff2:

Are you saying I don't wheel Beno's junk or I don't wheel my junk. Big difference 'cause Beno's junk is junk, and my junk is Pristine, which ain't junk.

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This thread is begging for Shotts....
 
You said. A fine post giving your opinion

All that said, the 100 series has ATRAC, and if you have ever seen ATRAC in action, you know it kicks ass and will compete and even win over a double locked 80 in certain situations. Too bad the 80's don't have ATRAC... wonder if it could be added?

Beno said - Giving his opinion

I have yet to see this be the case in real life applications.

You then became an ahole and stirred the crap up

Then you haven't been wheeling very long.

Thought I would point out how this started. This started with an arrogant, and I know more than you attitude. Don't be throwing stones at other folks after you started it. Same arrogant tone you took with your other posts in this and other sections.

B's post also document your arrogant tone. Now maybe thats not how you think your coming across or come across in person, but that is the way you come across here.

You need to learn some humility. Or keep your self to the Chat section.
 
are LandCruisers4Life and TexasBadlands the same person?
 
No Bubba, follow the link. You were bustin' Mark's chops because you didn't like the answer he gave you about an antenna. Your response to Mark was extremely rude, but here are a few of your other quotes to put it in perspective. Hard to tell when your posts stopped and your kid's posts started.


All of the above comments of yours came from this thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=104362



This one is my personal favorite and was posted in the TLCA Land Use section.



-B-

Unfortunately, those comments to Christo Slee etc were my son having a good time with my "TexasBadlands" account while I was away working. He has since been reprimanded, and is learning what Tread Lightly is all about.

As far as the antenna goes, I detected that Mark W was being arrogant instead of being helpful. I then noted later he is a newbie at HAM as well by his later posts.
 
Unfortunately, those comments to Christo Slee etc were my son having a good time with my "TexasBadlands" account while I was away working. He has since been reprimanded, and is learning what Tread Lightly is all about.

As far as the antenna goes, I detected that Mark W was being arrogant instead of being helpful. I then noted later he is a newbie at HAM as well by his later posts.

Well maybe this would be a good time to make a public apology to Christo Slee and Mark Whatley and Beno and everyone else your kid has insulted over the past 2 years.

-B-
 
are LandCruisers4Life and TexasBadlands the same person?

Yes, and No. My account was being used by my Teenage son last year and he was on here and posted very rude remarks to Christo Slee and others posing as myself. I opened a new account and started over. I no longer use the home computer to access this site, I use my own locked down laptop.
 
Well maybe this would be a good time to make a public apology to Christo Slee and Mark Whatley and Beno and everyone else your kid has insulted over the past 2 years.

-B-

Well I am sorry about that, I was rather embarassed and just wanted to sweep it under the rug so to speak. I do apoligise to Christo, he has done a lot for the Land Cruiser community. As far as Mark goes, I am also sorry I got upset with him over the antennas. I didn't know he was in the same boat as myself in knowledge. I just wish he had stated more than he did in his response. I don't think anyone insulted Beno.
 

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