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[Sh*t Scared]

what size wheels/tyres are these, and would they fit my fj80 without mods?? if not, what has to be done to accomodate them?

 

[T Y L E R]

As it is an Arctic Truck , you may want to email them . The Iceland guys build up there rigs with 33 , 35 , and 38" rubber mainly . Keep in mind they do some serious mods to run 38's . These include enlarging wheel wells , adding body lifts , relocating the rear axle backwards approx. 6" , and adding high quality aftermarket flares .

The Iceland school of thought is a bit different because their intended purposes are very different ; perhaps . Who knows , maybe you plan to run your 80 on the snowy back country most of the year . If you plan to model your usage after the folks around you here , then you may want to look thru the cruiser garage , and find a few role models . Pick a few 80's you like , and emulate them .. copy their approach , and then you will have success crawling rocks or whatever else they have built their rig for .

Iceland 80's look great in my books , but their intended specificity is running glaciers in crazy ass weather .

Again , check out the "CruiserGarage" above here .. the recipes for great rigs are found within .



TY

 

[White Shark]

You'll need some superwide fenderflares and wider mudflaps. State troopers get irritated when latte drinking BMW drivers cry about rock chips in their windshields. You can do this mod, but a lift and fender trimming will be needed to maintain the suspension articulation.

 

[White Shark]

http://www.overlandexperts.com/bj75biodieseloffroadtruck.htm
These guys are using the Arctic Trucks fender flares on the eco-cruiser

http://www.arctictrucks.is/template3.asp?pageid=1080
Most of their site is in Icelandic, but you can get some useful info off of the English section. Go to the different size listings for details. 35", 38", etc.

 

[Sh*t Scared]

Thanks for your input guys, but most of you missed the question:

What size wheels/tyres?

Will they fit with out mods, or if so, what mods (minimum)

Thanks

 

[reffug]

They gave you input and areas to look for more information. Without reading the tire anybody telling you size would be taking a WAG at it. Its big ok

 

[Big_Moose]

SS,

Those are Dick Cepek, Fun County II, Kevlar reinfoced radials - good for floating on the snow / ice.
Size is difficult to tell, but I think they are 38's

Joe

 

[MoJ]

Thanks for your input guys, but most of you missed the question:

What size wheels/tyres?

Thanks

'Bout like a mule's lip from his ear down.

 

[reffug]

'Bout like a mule's lip from his ear down.

I get jokes.................................

 

[e9999]

What size?

well, as the ladies always tell me: "ooooooh! The bigger the better! oooolala!"

E

 

[Bear80]

SS,

Those are Dick Cepek, Fun County II, Kevlar reinfoced radials - good for floating on the snow / ice.
Size is difficult to tell, but I think they are 38's

Joe

Dick Cepek only come in sizes up to 37X13.50, mostly likey but they could be the 35x12.50....

So either way, if you want to run 35's you need a lift, min a OME 2.5", 37's you get into more issues than just springs.

FYI, that is a 90 series, 80 series is another story when lifting.....a 90 series has the same front ifs as a 4runner.

Not that any of this was for you Joe, just started with the DC tire size.

 

[Sh*t Scared]

Dick Cepek only come in sizes up to 37X13.50, mostly likey but they could be the 35x12.50....

So either way, if you want to run 35's you need a lift, min a OME 2.5", 37's you get into more issues than just springs.

FYI, that is a 90 series, 80 series is another story when lifting.....a 90 series has the same front ifs as a 4runner.

Not that any of this was for you Joe, just started with the DC tire size.

Bear 80:-

Thanks for the help. reading into your post (and bearing in mind that i dont do any serious off roading, simply installing solar power in remote locations) it appears that if i want to run 35´s then I need to lift the suspension with springs by 2,5".

Although your last line about lifting an 80 series is a different stories worries me somewhat. I want some big tyres like those on the picture, and need to know roughly what they are, how big they are, if i need bigger/smaller rims, and what i have to do to install them.

 

[T Y L E R]

s*** Scared ,

I think you're being myopic ... If you want a rig that will go remote , look to the guys in Alaska , or Venezuala . I don't think you find a huge number of them have big ass tires like the Iceland guys .... Hmmm , wonder whay that is ???

Again , determine what you want to do with your rig , then seek out a role model . Someone that has walked that same trail , and whose rig is built for that purpose . Then begin emulating their upgrades ... simple

What I keep hearing from you is .. look at these tires

tires .. tires ... tiressssssssss !!

TY

 

[White Shark]

These trucks rarely see max articulation and suspension flex. They look good in high school parking lots, malls, mud, and glaciers. If you like mud or stay on the flats, get the 35x12.5 and a basic OME lift and you'll be set. If you go for a RTI number on do the Moab thing, you'll need to adapt to the flex. You can go any size you want, you just have to lift and trim.
http://www.prairiedogparts.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=52

 

[Sh*t Scared]

s*** Scared ,

I think you're being myopic ... If you want a rig that will go remote , look to the guys in Alaska , or Venezuala . I don't think you find a huge number of them have big ass tires like the Iceland guys .... Hmmm , wonder whay that is ???

Again , determine what you want to do with your rig , then seek out a role model . Someone that has walked that same trail , and whose rig is built for that purpose . Then begin emulating their upgrades ... simple

What I keep hearing from you is .. look at these tires

tires .. tires ... tiressssssssss !!

TY

Tyler,

Thanks for the upshot. My remote is on the mountains of spain, 5 miles off road on gravel tracks, sometimes with 10-12" high rocks to get over. Often i´ll have about 500kgs of batteries to take to the location, so really dont need big tyres for grip or anything like. I would like them because A, i can run low pressures, so on the occasions with no batteries, the ride is much more comfortable, B, an increase in ground clearance will help on these unmade roads, and C, because I like the look of them.

It´s been said many times before, "each to their own", and i want to do this as stated. I agree for you hardcore off roaders, it might seem a little wierd or WTF!, but If you guys can help me acheive what I want , in terms of advice, i´ll be a happy, quiet forum member!

Thanks White Shark. Presumably you mean suspension lift, not body lift?

Scot

 

[firetruck41]

According to this article by Slee you need a 5 inch lift ($3265 for the suspension plus installation), in order to run 35 inch tires. It looks like that rig in the original picture may have bigger tires and obviously has huge fender flares, in other words: No they won't fit on your truck with out any modifications.

5" Lift
Heavy Load

$3265.00
Part #: SOF1029
(Specify Year when ordering)
($500 core charge needs to be added)



Consist of:
2 x OME 850J Front Coil Springs
2 x OME 863J Rear Coil Springs
(Could be replaced with 864 depending on load)
2 x N73L Shocks
2 x N74L Shocks
1 x SD24 Steering Damper
1 x Set of 1.5" front bolt in spacers
1 x Ser of 1.5" rear coil spacers
1 x Slee Off-Road Front Control Arms
1 x Toyota Style CV drive shaft.
1 x Front Sway-bar Drop Kit
1 x Rear Sway-bar Drop it
1 x Rear 2" Rear Bump Stop Drop Blocks
1 x Front 2" Bump Stop Drop Blocks
1 x Set Stainless Steel Extended Brake Lines
1 x Front Panhard Rod - Core Return
1 x Rear Panhard Rod - Core Return
1 x Set Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms. - Core Return
2 x Breather Extensions
1 x Emergency Brake Cable drop bracket



This is the minimum height kit that we recommend for people that want to run 35" tires on a 80 series. This is a complete bolt in kit. It addresses all the steering geometry issues as well as vibration issues.

This kit is also available in a DIY form with DIY weld-in adjusters and control arms without bushings.

Price: $2495.00
Part #: SOF1043

 

[Bear80]

According to this article by Slee you need a 5 inch lift ($3265 for the suspension plus installation), in order to run 35 inch tires. It looks like that rig in the original picture may have bigger tires and obviously has huge fender flares, in other words: No they won't fit on your truck with out any modifications.

Of course this is for guys with heavy bumpers etc. and still need to work the supensions to it's fullest while still clearing 35's.

Sh*t Scared, I have to agree with you that the arctic trucks look pretty sweet. If I could have my way I'd have 2 80's, one with the arctic truck setup and 38's and one with OME J springs and 35's for wheeling the rocks.

Another thing, right now you can clear 33x12.50's on your truck with no lift but that is with the original wheels. I would like some 10" width wheels to give the tires that wider look. What you really need to do is figure out what tire size, and wheels you will be using....then figure what suspension setup you'll need to clear it. I do things backwards, usally lift and tires but I think the right wheel and tire setup really can make or brake a truck or car for that matter.

I was thinking of puttin the OME 2.5" lift, getting some nice 20x10 wheels and going to 35's.

 

[Sh*t Scared]

Of course this is for guys with heavy bumpers etc. and still need to work the supensions to it's fullest while still clearing 35's.

Sh*t Scared, I have to agree with you that the arctic trucks look pretty sweet. If I could have my way I'd have 2 80's, one with the arctic truck setup and 38's and one with OME J springs and 35's for wheeling the rocks.

Another thing, right now you can clear 33x12.50's on your truck with no lift but that is with the original wheels. I would like some 10" width wheels to give the tires that wider look. What you really need to do is figure out what tire size, and wheels you will be using....then figure what suspension setup you'll need to clear it. I do things backwards, usally lift and tires but I think the right wheel and tire setup really can make or brake a truck or car for that matter.

I was thinking of puttin the OME 2.5" lift, getting some nice 20x10 wheels and going to 35's.

Now that is what i call an answer!!

Thanks chap for that in sight. Basically, therefore i can run 33´s as standard, and 35´s require a 2.5" lift (correct me if i´m wrong).

But best option might be to get 10 x 20 wheels and running 35´s ?

Good. On the original picture, it looks like those wheels are really small such as 14" and give the tyre a "ballooned" look. Am i correct or are they truly large wheels and tyres?

 

[Bear80]

Now that is what i call an answer!!

Thanks chap for that in sight. Basically, therefore i can run 33´s as standard, and 35´s require a 2.5" lift (correct me if i´m wrong).

But best option might be to get 10 x 20 wheels and running 35´s ?

Good. On the original picture, it looks like those wheels are really small such as 14" and give the tyre a "ballooned" look. Am i correct or are they truly large wheels and tyres?

I've seen guys clear 35's on the stock 16x8 wheels and only 2.5" springs. Now wider wheels will rub so you'll need to go alittle higher. The only reason I say you can go with the 2.5" springs is because it is the easiest way to lift, otherwise you'll run into problems with contol arms, alignment etc.

You might want to think about the gearing in the wagon too, I'm happy with the stock 4.10 and 33" tires but 35's may be too much....alot of guys on the list that are in the mountain areas went to atleat 4.56.

About the wheel size of that 90, it's most likely a 15X10 or 15X12, I've never seen a 14" wheel run. That ballooned look gives the most tread and side wall for maximum grip in the snow.

One more thing, if you want to run 15" wheels on an 80 you'll have to grind down some of the edges of the brake callipers

 

[Bear80]

But best option might be to get 10 x 20 wheels and running 35´s ?

Oh no, that's just what I was thinking of running for my street cruzer. One day I'll go back to the 16" and 35's to wheel it. But the 80 may never see serious trails since my mini is my wheeling machine! I do want to be able to make use of the lockers at the rubicon and moab..so I still will need 35's even if they are on 20" wheels. But it's my baby right now so I don't want to hit everyday trails with it.