What have you done to your 200 Series this week? (34 Viewers)

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Good info thanks. No UCA. Thats an obvious improvement that I am looking into.
Can you please give us your front measurement from the center of your hub (or center cap) to the bottom lip of your fender?
 
No upper control arms?
I know this was a big issue for me. Even with a small lift I had positive camber which could not be dialed out with a normal adjustment. There is very little adjustment in the lower arms. In addition I found that Toyota never really tried to adjust caster and camber. They adjusted toe and pushed it out the door. When I pointed to the obvious positive camber they pointed to the print out and said "it's within spec." In tight turns the outside tire would tuck under and wear the outside edge.
It was not until this week that I installed the upper UCAs along with the BP51s and sent it to a reputable, independent alignment shop (that does not sell tires) that they finally got the alignment in order.
Wish I had done the UCAs years ago.

Has anyone gotten a perfect alignment with a lift without UCAs? I mean perfect, not just because the printout says it's good.

When I put my lift on I had the same issue and was told by my guy who I trust that it's just not possible to get it right without the UCA... there is no solution other than the UCA. I don't really think it's something that should be considered an option and should be called out in the documentation for the lift kits that are out there... or those vendors should come together with a nice package deal and sell it all together.
 
Slee Offroad and cruiseroutfitters both bundle the UCAs with the lifts. It's an extra expense that anyone who wants to do a lift must budget for.
Trust me, 2 years of chasing my tail AND I've had the UCAs in my garage for 18 months. [emoji16][emoji379]
 
Measurements from center cap to bottom of fender are;
DSF 22 3/4
PSF 21 3/4
DSR 24 1/2
PSR 23
Yep, you're definitely in UCA territory.
Cruiseroutfitters or Slee Offroad.
If your handy you can do it yourself. I/we can walk you through the he install.
 
MEM, did you take "before" measurements (hub to fender)? seems like most lifts advertised at 2" net closer to 3. They will settle in a little.

when you torqued the lower control arm adjusting cams, was the truck on the groung or still on the lift? The bushings on the lower control arms don't rotate with the arms. its possible the bushings were tightened with the arms at the lowest point and are "helping" the springs hold up the truck. may try loosening the bolts after marking the alignment cams position, then re-torqueing with the vehicle on the ground.

If you plan on getting the alignment checked at an alignment specialist, google "socal chevy lifted tundra alignment specs" the thread is very informative. I took those specs to the shop to align my tundra with 2.5" spacers and stock Upper control arms. They got it to drive great. From my experience on the Tundra, you could get away with up to 2.5" lift without swapping to adjustable upper arms. If you are at 3", you will need the extra adjustability.
 
Yeah. Lift is much higher than i thought. The lift is advertised as a 2 inch lift. What did i eff up.

OME lift heights are done with new math 2"=3". -1"=+2" etc.
 
You didn't eff anything up. Check that the suspension was torqued with wheels on ground. LCAs,sway bars, lower shock bolt. Any rubber bushing must be torqued at neutral height.
If not just save up for those UCAs. You won't regret it
 
You didn't eff anything up. Check that the suspension was torqued with wheels on ground. LCAs,sway bars, lower shock bolt. Any rubber bushing must be torqued at neutral height.
If not just save up for those UCAs. You won't regret it

If you remove your LCA do you snug it up, let the vehicle down then tighten under its weight? I have not lifted mine, but I have bad lean and I think it was after replacing my passenger cam bolts. Can I loosen it up and re-torque on the ground to try and fix?
 
TJ, read the thread listed below. try that first, then if that doesn't cure your lean, you can try to loosen the LCA bolts and retighten. be sure to mark the location of the cam adjusters before loosening anything up.

Cruiser Lean: "You've been doing it all wrong. Yes you"
 
if its that bad, you can get a pair of the 13' and newer shock spacers from @beno will net a little over 1/2" lift on the lower side....
 
have you messed with your KDSS to let it level itself back out?
did you add rear springs? - sorry haven't dug back to your initial posting
 
Added some pinstripes.

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Measurements from center cap to bottom of fender are;
DSF 22 3/4
PSF 21 3/4
DSR 24 1/2
PSR 23

First thing I would do is open the KDSS valves 3 turns (not more!!!!).
Jump on the running board and make love to your truck, rocks it back and forth. Drive it 10 feet and repeat. That should neutralize the KDSS. Lock the valves and re measure.
If you are off take to the reseller ( don't remember who that was). OME makes strut spacers for just this purpose.
Since your drivers side is so wacked I'm thinking KDSS.
Talk to the experts. #sleeoffroad Christo and Amory and Kurt at #cruiseroutfitters.
 
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First thing I would do is open the KDSS valves 3 turns (not more!!!!).
Just on the running board and make love to your truck, rocks it back and forth. Drive it 10 feet and repeat. That should neutralize the KDSS. Lock the valves and re measure.
If you are off take to the reseller ( don't remember who that was). OME makes strut spacers for just this purpose.
Since your drivers side is so wacked I'm thinking KDSS.
Talk to the experts. #sleeoffroad Christo and Amory and Kurt at #cruiseroutfitters.

This is why I'm almost tempted to wait to install BP-51s till I can make a road trip to Slee. LOOOONG trip. Its just that so far...I have not found a local place that does much on 200's and NO ONE who has even SEEN the BP-51. :censor:
 
Now that I have done it I can tell there is nothing overly complicated.
Yes, if I was near Slee I'd have them do it but I'm in NY an a trip to Colorado is out of the question.
I took a day off of work to work side by side with the tech. He's a former Toyota tech and has worked on lots of Tundras and 4-Runners but he was honest and said he had never seen a 200 Land Cruiser.
So, with my "limited" knowledge I knew more than him. We can guide you through the whole process, step by step.
The BIG unknown is the LCA adjustment Cams. Aside from that nightmare it's all straight forward, normal wrenching. If you understand the KDSS system and you are methodical about torquing the nuts and bolts it's really not that hard.
The BP51s are no harder than any other shock. I'm a regular, no professional mechanic and I can do it. It's not easy and it takes a full day but it's not that bad.
 
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