welded recovery point?

[bad_religion_au]

the guy across the road from dad's work came up with a really strong looking recovery point for the rear of my 40 today, only thing is it's welded... can i still trust it? i've heard people say good and bad things about welded recovery points. it's in thick steel, the fittings used are load rated, the guy who made it is qualified to make race roll cages, the welds are neat, the steel was notched before the weld to ensure deep penetration... should i winch from it?

 

[e rock]

First, post pics.

From my understanding, welded recovery points are frowned upon in some situations (like competitions), but only because of the unknown nature of the weld. If you trust it and it works for you, I say go for it. If done well, I think welding is the only way to go. Lots of people have welded-on d-rings that they winch from with no problems.

 

[bad_religion_au]

pics are a problem.. digi cams and mud don't agree.

basically it's a thick steel backing plate, with a huge D ring (one dad "borrowed" from work, a steel works, a brand new one used with their cranes to lift their steel).

i'm guessing the welds are good, as i said this guy builds roll cages for a living (for all types of race cars)... he did this on his lunch hour, and apparently the welds X rayed alright (????) guess that's a way of QC welds or something... it's just i've read stuff around on welded recovery points (no comps yet ) and was a little concerned

 

[e rock]

It sounds like the part itself would be fine. The question would be how are you going to attach it - and to what? The rear crossmember needs reinforcement in order to be an adequate recovery attachment point, IMO.

 

[FLYINGLOW]

It sounds like the part itself would be fine. The question would be how are you going to attach it - and to what? The rear crossmember needs reinforcement in order to be an adequate recovery attachment point, IMO.

But ya gotta weld reinforcement on.
Sorry, I just had to.

 

[camcruiser13]

is there a way you could test it without injuring yourself if it does come loose, whenever i weld i always think the worst and dont think i can trust my, but then its put to the test and it always suprises me at how strong a (good) weld really is

 

[PUPTLAM]

welds are stronger than bolts, at least good ones. the guy is a professional welder,,,I say "GO FOR IT",,,IF IT BOTHERS YOU AND ITS BIG ENOUGH,,,DRILL SOME HOLES AND ADD A BOLT OR TWO

 

[sc40]

If you trust your roll cage to a few welds (from the same guy, assuming you have a cage he built) why not trust a recovery point? I care more about my cage than a recovery point.

I secong on bolt and weld.

 

[theo]

apparently the welds X rayed alright (????) guess that's a way of QC welds or something...

Correctomundo. Like x-raying your bones. Inconsistencies show up as light or dark areas (don't know which). X-ray testing is used extensively for weld QA/QC. Subject to interpretation, image clarity, etc.

 

[redrustbucket]

I'd suggest reinforcing your rear crossmember! I bent the shizznit out of more than one of mine.

 

[bad_religion_au]

If you trust your roll cage to a few welds (from the same guy, assuming you have a cage he built) why not trust a recovery point? I care more about my cage than a recovery point.

I secong on bolt and weld.

i don't have a cage built by this guy.... yet... i only learnt yesterday that he does race cages. but it might be in the works soon

 

[bj42turbo]

Just wached the Toolangi DVD You dont need a recovery point but maybe you could give it to those Nissan boys

Cheers Dazz

 

[bad_religion_au]

thanks dazz.. this all came about from toolangi...the last big hill on the DVD (i think) where scott couldn't drive it, had to winch... well after he snatched me up, i was supposed to snatch up the hilux behind me, hence the problem... .then i came home the next week, and dad had organised one.

as for that dvd, told you us 40 series flew the flag... i only got snatched twice, and only one of those times did anyone else drive it... who needs simex

 

[bj42turbo]

what I did was fit a big (rated) eye bolt through in the middle the rear bar backed by a 10 mm thick square plate.

 

[bad_religion_au]

that was my plan. but dad got in first, 12 ton working load rated lifting D welded to thick thick plate, will bolt to the 4 towbar holes, with reinforcing behind