"water bv-pass hose" snapped off...

[stl93fzj80]

Looks like my "water by-pass hose" nipple broke off at the radiator. It looks like it may have pee'd a little on the front of the engine at oil filler... The hose clamp (and hose) is attached to a plastic nipple which looks like it broke free from the radiator, but there appears to be a smaller pipe/tube inside the bigger nipple that broke off.
Any experience with this?
New radiator time?
Replace the quickie clamp w/ a wormgear and hope it'll sinch down?
Remove the old nipple and try to reduce down to the little inner pipe?
See the guys pliers in this drawing? that's the water bypass hose...

 

[stl93fzj80]

Part Deux...

just cleaned the little booger off.
guess what I found...
epoxy.
i think the idiots at the garage broke it off and epoxied the booger back on. (at least temporarily...)
Only thing I can tell is that hose clamp has moved recently (can still see the old impression and the clean spot).
It didn't hold...

Does anyone know what's inside that pipe?
Thanks,
Doug

 

[MoGas]

Don't fret, Grasshopper. It can be repaired using Mr. Toad's method.


Dave

 

[Romer]

I did the same thing and broke it when I was changing my spark plugs. Consensus then was anew radiator and a 94 version which is a bolt in and about $300 cheaper.

I would take pictures and go back to the garage and call them on it. Buy the 94 rad from Cdan or a local delaer that gives a TLCA or club discount. Lots of folks have had problems with aftermarkets.

 

[Romer]

or you can try Mr. Toads method, but I would first try and get the garage to replace it with an OEM.

 

[MoGas]

.... but I would first try and get the garage to replace it with an OEM.

Oh yeah, that too.........

 

[stl93fzj80]

Update...

ok, so someone already sleeved the thing... looked like plastic, not brass, but couldn't pull it out all the way... I tested some "Superglue brand, Plastic Fusion" epoxy vs some "Locktite super glue" on an old broken plastic cooling tube from the wife's Rover... results were??? regular old super glue held better.

SO, tonight I cleaned it good w/ alcohol (so it would evaporate well... I'm in st. louis, humidity is like the rainforests of south america). Blew it dry and soaked all the pieces (including the sleeve inside) with superglue. Worked it into position and I could feel the plastic softening as I did. It set quickly (like superglue does) and I kept pressure on it for a few minutes for good measure. Ran a bead of superglue around it and let it set for a couple hours. (went inside and set the kitchen on fire... literally... another story) Put it back together and it is holding. (Like I'm holding my fingers crossed.)
I'll post later to advise on how it held up (to heat and mileage).

Mean-time, I'll be looking for a used radiator.

Thanks for the tips and advice. Had I a tap and dye set, I'd rather have threaded a brass or plastic nipple it in there.

My advice for an addition to the field repair kit? SuperGlue... However, the permenance of this solution remains to be seen...
And enough cannot be said about the risks...

 

[stl93fzj80]

SuperGlue Update

SuperGlue held all the way to CO and back (from St. Louis... ~900 miles one way) but I did start loosing fluid.
I can't tell if it is the superglue that failed or the silicone that someone else put on there before me. I'll pull apart sometime and clean it up and reapply so see if i can get better adhesion.
Really need to get a new radiator.

 

[tech_dog]

Wouldn't a good high temperature two part epoxy work better than superglue?

 

[alia176]

Kitchen on fire...splain....

 

[badmuthatrucka]

I just replaced my rad. Check www.thepartsbin.com They had pretty good prices on radiators. Or you could get the spendy one from Man-a-fre that's all aluminum. Good luck!

 

[stl93fzj80]

alia 176
"Kitchen on fire...splain...."
I almost forgot about that!
...was testing different materials in boiling H2O... turned off the (gas) burner (actually only down all the way) then washed up, went back outside to work on the car and tossed the damp dish towel down on the stove... Yep, you guessed it, right on top of the itty bitty little gas flame flickering there... 15 minutes later, I'm wrapping up outside and I hear some annoying buzzing sound or something... luckily, I was finished and upon approacing the door, the "buzzing" got louder... uh oh... me thinks. Inside I go and the kitchen, dining room, living room and hallway have white smoke from about 6' to the ceiling and the smoke alarm is going nuts!
Ran to the kitchen grabbed the now burning dish towel and toss it in the sink and douse w/ H2O.
Moral of the story? Don't get too wrapped up in your Cruiser so you burn your house down!
nice, huh?
I aired out the house and we were good to go...

 

[alia176]

LOL, something I'd do....