Value of a pig.

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J Mack said:
I'm convinced you need to spend some time poking around at some of the build threads down here and come back and convince the rest of us that the guys building Non-OE pigs are the "Cheap" ones.
From my office chair there are some pretty nice pig that have been built in the past and a few currently going that I promise you weren't "Cheap"
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Here we go again😉🤣!!! From da Chair😘😯😳🤔🧐😉🤣🦨werks 🤣🤣🤣. Listen opinions are like Assholes everyone got one 🐖👈😯😳🤔🧐🤣🤣. And as far as builds on here, there are some very high end builds here that appear stock and dont come close. They're not 💩 builds either. Stock or not it depends on your personal taste. Beck's couldnt hold a candle to most of the ones I know of. 😘
 
Yall seem set on misunderstanding my point of view. Let me spell it out to clear up any confusion. Correct me where I'm wrong if you care to.
This thread is about the value of a pig.
We all see value in our own pigs, but with regards to the topic of this thread its assumed to mean monetary value.
True monetary value of anything is established only when the item is sold.
The highest recorded sale price for an fj55 was ~130k for an example which was >99% original to my knowledge.
Unless someone comes up with an example of a modified truck selling for more, we have limited facts to established the top market value for the platform. From our sample size of 1 it would seem that those actually willing to spend the dough prefer originality. Keeping a truck original is costly and it's obviously not for everyone but in terms of monetary value, the all original trucks are where it's at.
I'm not trash talking anyone's personal build. I realize trucks get modified, and people are sensitive about such cherished personal items. I get it, I do. Maybe the Glen Beck truck will sell and prove my
Logic bunk, but with the facts I have, the top prices are for unmodified trucks.
Also, I feel its worth mentioning that it's not at all relevant what a person spent for parts and labor to build a truck. That's not a "sale" so it does not establish its value besides what some person is willing to pay to live out his fantasy.
That's not what I believe this thread to be about. From what I understand that's capped at about 5 grand anyway...
 
scrapdaddy said:
Any links to this wagon?
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Read an article about it, but can't seem to find the article. It was in hemmings motor news or some other similar online outlet.
It was very encouraging and helped to keep me motivated that my work was not being wasted. This particular landcruiser was perfect, as if it had just come off the showroom floor. Meticulously restored to as original as possible.
 
trainbufftony said:
This thread is about the value of a pig.
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Around here, up in the hills, the value of a Pig is not what you can get for it but what it can do for you. We get snow, sometimes a lot of snow. When we get a lot of snow the power goes out and my Pig is the only vehicle we own that can get into town for more propane and beer. Then it is invaluable, priceless even. I use the Pig to move logs up to the wood splitter. I've had to go winch my Son-in-Law and his work truck (Peterbilt) out of a ditch when he slid off the icy road.
The Pig is just a tool. It's my biggest best tool but still just a tool, not money in the bank.

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trainbufftony said:
Correct me where I'm wrong if you care to.
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Let me give it a try...

trainbufftony said:
This 300k rig has had all sorts of other stuff stabbed on. I'm convinced that the reason people do this is because they're cheap.
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Stabbed on or carefully placed regardless everything that was done to that pig was done to fit a vision, just to be clear I don't share the vision and I'm not trying to justify the why they did what they did but none of it was done to be cheap as you say. If you seen the pig they started with they 100% could have turned it into your mystical 130K rig for a fraction of what was spent.

trainbufftony said:
Fixing the original stuff requires skilled labor.
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It all requires skilled labor regardless of originality...

trainbufftony said:
Paint however, is cheap. Junkyard driveline, also cheap.
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Clearly you haven't had to pay someone retail for a complete paint job in awhile, I can tell you they aren't "Cheap" as you say. What you are calling "Junkyard driveline" I don't see as much anymore most of these guys down here and including the Beck pig are using create motors or completely rebuilt to a higher performance version with modern drivetrains also new or rebuilt. Having done multiples of both stock and aftermarket engines and drivetrains you are also wrong to think stock is somehow more expensive.
trainbufftony said:
Engine is a junkyard 350 with a auto zine dress up kit, nv4500, 208 transfer case and Dana 60s, probably also krylon overhauled. That driveline package can be bought out of a farmers field for $2500 anywhere in america.
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You are wrong on so many levels in regards to the Beck pig. I encourage you to look into it before you comment on it further.
 
Pighead said:
Around here, up in the hills, the value of a Pig is not what you can get for it but what it can do for you. We get snow, sometimes a lot of snow. When we get a lot of snow the power goes out and my Pig is the only vehicle we own that can get into town for more propane and beer. Then it is invaluable, priceless even. I use the Pig to move logs up to the wood splitter. I've had to go winch my Son-in-Law and his work truck (Peterbilt) out of a ditch when he slid off the icy road.
The Pig is just a tool. It's my biggest best tool but still just a tool, not money in the bank.

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👆🏼This!

Meticulous restorations are nice for future museum pieces, but otherwise they’re going to sit in a warehouse - never gonna see a dirt road, never gonna get taken camping, never gonna go hunting or fishing - too much risk involved in losing value because of a scratch or paint chip. So what’s the point?

An imperfect rig, suited to someone’s needs, will be used. That IS the point. That is value - actual purpose.
 
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RUSH55 said:
An imperfect rig, suited to someone’s needs, will be used. That IS the point. That is value - actual pupurpose..
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i tend to agree. Top monetary value isn't returned by modified pigs. That's all I'm saying. In terms of ROI, you're better off taking the extra effort and fixing things, rather than modifying them.
I know this from decades in the industry playing cleanup on hack wiring jobs and builds that people paid through the teeth for which are more bondo than steel, and no piece of wire longer than 4 feet has been used. That's why I recommend a thorough inspection with a critical and trusted mechanic. The majority of these polished up vehicles, behind the fresh paint, they're total hack jobs.
No not all of em, but certainly the majority of them are.
 
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