Truck Trend 6 SUV comparision includes a LC

[ShottsUZJ100]

Wait wait let me get this straight... you think a stock LX470 can outwheel a stock G500 or a stock PW?

You serious? LMAO Open invitation? If I was u, I would close down this invite ASAP.

FYI, I have wheeled with a stock LX470 a few times so I am not talking out of my *ss. Have you even seen a G500 in action not to mention actually wheeled with one?

Sorry. Sorry. I was just trying to get Thai going. I remembered that other thread. I meant to get back on last night before others chimed in, but couldn't. Just messin' with ya Thai.

Oh, and no, I don't think the 100 is the ultimate off-roader. The FZJ80 is that.

I did wheel with a PWagon 2 months ago. He did fine though he was far too big to take the tougher alternate lines that I could. Sometimes that's the 100's issue compared to an 80.

 

[Thai]

Please ship all 6 exact vehicles (bring a stock g500 and rubicon too) to australia or africa for 1 year. uzj100

I would not bet so much money on that reality show....

Stuttgart, Nov 06, 2003
As part of the aid convoy for Afghanistan initiated by DaimlerChrysler, five Mercedes-Benz G-Class models passed another endurance test with flying colours: the cross-country vehicles accompanied the convoy along the 6000-kilometre route from Brussels to Hayraton in Afghanistan, in the process demonstrating their reliability under extreme conditions. The Stuttgart-based automotive company chose to transport the aid supplies along the so-called “New Silk Route”. Almost half of the journey was routed along unpaved roads; the vehicles travelled a distance of approximately 1000 kilometres through the Karakum Desert along sand and gravel tracks. Once again the G-Class, equipped with permanent four-wheel drive, an electronically-controlled traction control system, differential locks and the ESP® stability program, proved that it ranks amongst the best off-road vehicles in the world.

The aid convoy with a total of ten Actros articulated trucks, five Mercedes-Benz Sprinter vans, a Unimog and five G-Class cross-country vehicles started out from Brussels at the beginning of September and reached its destination in the Afghan city of Hayraton three and a half weeks later. Under the aegis of the European Union (EU), the Mercedes vehicles carried some 220 tonnes of technical equipment to Afghanistan for reconstruction work. At the same time, the modern caravan revealed possibilities for the economical overland transportation of goods between Europe and Central Asia.

The route chosen by DaimlerChrysler was the so-called “TRACECA” Corridor, otherwise known as the “New Silk Road”. The “Transport Corridor Europe Caucasus Asia” is a transport project sponsored by the European Union with 13 participating states from Eastern Europe and Asia. In memory of the legendary ancient “Silk Road” trading route, the project aims to revive the shortest overland route between the continents. The Mercedes convoy carrying aid supplies for Afghanistan has performed some important groundwork for this.

The tough conditions made it plain just how demanding the task facing the four G 500 and G 270 models was: almost half of the journey was on road surfaces reminiscent of building sites; vibrations or hard knocks tested the body and chassis to the limits. In the Karakum Desert, the vehicles traversed some 1000 kilometres of terrain on tracks made of just sand and gravel.

For the Mercedes vehicles, the 6000-kilometre journey could not have come to a more successful conclusion: there were no breakdowns and no spare parts were required.

 

[cary]

I would not bet so much money on that reality show....

Except the G500 wasn't part of the comparison. I think that the one thing we can agree on is that the G-wagon (especially in is stipped Diesel versions) and the LC (again expecially in its stripped diesel versions) would be tops on our list for vehicles we can count on to get out there in back in the back country. The other on the list would be the Non-US available Nissan Patrol.

 

[uzj100]

No break downs or spare parts needed in 6000 kilometer. Great, only 20,000 more kilomteres to go and we will have a winner.

uzj100

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

No break downs or spare parts needed in 6000 kilometer. Great, only 20,000 more kilomteres to go and we will have a winner.

uzj100

Don't get me started again.

 

[Thai]

Don't get me started again.

Please do...i mean, your arguments are so convincing! I love your argument (see below) against PowerWagon.

Let's think of this though...Take all those tested rigs and add $1000 in mods to each, then compare. Hmmm?

Then take $1500 in mods to each and compare. The 100 and Dodge are the most buildable IMO. Modified the Dodge loses out....too big...poor breakover.

Just thoughts.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

My favorite off-road rig is the MB G55. Wish they'd test it. ;p

 

[97 FZJ80]

The G-wagons survived the "brutal" trip along with the 5 other Sprinter vans. I don't see how tough the road trip could be if 5 RWD cargo vans also survived the same trip.

 

[NMuzj100]

The G-wagons survived the "brutal" trip along with the 5 other Sprinter vans. I don't see how tough the road trip could be if 5 RWD cargo vans also survived the same trip.

You have to remember that the average Toureg would have had three electrical problems and a ECU replacement in that milage.

 

[Jim_Chow]

Maybe they should have performed the test with a $40K stock JDM 100TD w/ cloth seats and rear diff lock? At least it would rank higher in the "value" list though it would get dinged for not having leather seats or dvd at that price.

 

[Thai]

I think that a Toyota 4runner or Lexus GX470 would have been better from the "value" standpoint.

Shotts, I knew that you would come around.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

I think that a Toyota 4runner or Lexus GX470 would have been better from the "value" standpoint.

Shotts, I knew that you would come around.

I almost said ML350 but it doesn't have triple lockers.

 

[Thai]

I almost said ML350 but it doesn't have triple lockers.

Damn you!! At least, give me the benefit of ML500! That is so wrong!

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Damn you!! At least, give me the benefit of ML500! That is so wrong!

ML55....at Bondurant.

 

[mustardfj40]

Hi Thai!

Damn you!! At least, give me the benefit of ML500! That is so wrong!

I barely check this forum so I'm a bit late into this thread, I noticed that you did a lots of factory spreadsheet specification comparations between trucks and also quoted many magazines...All I can say is when you hit trails like the Rubicon, these don't mean much. Rubicon is only 4 hours north of San Jose which has a large VNese community with many great foods (I guess by your username, pardon me if I am wrong) so next year try find a ride or just hike through the trail during the annual TLCA rubithon since you seem to like hanging arund cruiser folks. And I beleive someone with their UZJ100 did the Rubithon 2 years ago(?).

I bought my '98 LC brandnew and now it has over 110,000 miles with very few problems, some of my friends swallowed their prides and sold their Jeep/Ford/Chevy SUVs to buy Land Cruisers just like mine, they all learned something they did not find the their former truck's specs sheet: Toyota quality and reliablity!

/td

 

[dclee]

And I beleive someone with their UZJ100 did the Rubithon 2 years ago(?).

Tien -

Amando came down Cadillac and met us in the Springs. He went right back up it the next day with nary a problem. The issue is not the capability of the 100 (it can certainly complete the entire trial no problem) but the fear of denting $65K sheetmetal!

 

[Thai]

Mustard et al.,

So, are you saying that a stock TLC100 can outperform G500 or Jeep Rubicon on the Rubicon trail?? Are you saying that somehow, the TLC100 is more durable and reliable than G500?? Can you guys give me some proof here...or some evidence of superiority of TLC100 over G-wagen in reliability or durability?? Please.

For example, I would read up on how the G-wagen's frame is made...boxed frame with tubular crossmembers (not stamped steel) welded through & through BOTH sides of frame, with the whole frame being dipped in wax to prevent corrosion.

Not surprisingly, the G-wagen has been produced the same way since 1979 (only ONE basic version) and has a proven record around the world in both civilian and military forms. How many version of TLC has there been since 1979??? And before anyone says anything, there are plenty of early G-wagens running strong around the world (just look at the BENZWORLD forum members' rides in the link below).

And unlike most people here who have never off-roaded with G-wagen, I have off-roaded plenty with LX470 and GX, among other SUVs. In fact, my brother has an '01 LX470...he used to go out with us, but he doesn't anymore because it got stuck too often (partly driver's fault i admit)! I have pictures too. So, please don't give this crap about webwheeling or spec-sheet shopping!

Here is the link to some recent pics:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1219423&posts=6

Prove me wrong. Stop chitchatting...show me some proof of superiority of TLC over G-wagen in capability or reliability/durability! Please do your research before posting ASSUMPTIONS!

I have shown you guys much respect for your ride...i would hope that you do the same for mine.
Thanks.

 

[Mark SR.]

Please not this again!

 

[Thai]

Please not this again!

See, this thread had nothing to do with my G500. Once again, you guys dragged my car into the conversation just to insult it.

 

[firetruck41]

Mustard et al.,

So, are you saying that a stock TLC100 can outperform G500 or Jeep Rubicon on the Rubicon trail?? Are you saying that somehow, the TLC100 is more durable and reliable than G500?? Can you guys give me some proof here...or some evidence of superiority of TLC100 over G-wagen in reliability or durability?? Please.

Congratulations on creating your own imaginary conflict with Mustard, as he said nothing of the kind

BTW, this is a Land Cruiser/LX forum, you can expect a vigorous defense of the vehicle that many love and have spent their hard earned money on, if you can't get over that fact, maybe you should hang out in a forum for your own type of vehicle instead?