Toyota "Value Line" new CV Axles - Any Experience?

[KamalMani]

NAPA has severed ties with Cardone. I have used their axle and it mated very nicely with my used flange.

I believe NAPA is using the TrackMotive ones now. TO-8139. There is also an extreme TO-8139HDX version of this on RockAuto. I am debating trying GSP with a lifetime warranty or doing the outward spline replacement to my OEM axles. I hear some grinding when I break and accelerate from a dead stop.

 

[awesomeissquid]

I believe NAPA is using the TrackMotive ones now. TO-8139. There is also an extreme TO-8139HDX version of this on RockAuto. I am debating trying GSP with a lifetime warranty or doing the outward spline replacement to my OEM axles. I hear some grinding when I break and accelerate from a dead stop.

IMHO I would rather rebuild a known OEM rather than try a aftermarket one. If you really wanted to try the aftermarket options you could keep your OEM and rebuild it as a spare to swap in when the aftermarket fails.

 

[OwnerCS]

I believe NAPA is using the TrackMotive ones now. TO-8139. There is also an extreme TO-8139HDX version of this on RockAuto. I am debating trying GSP with a lifetime warranty or doing the outward spline replacement to my OEM axles. I hear some grinding when I break and accelerate from a dead stop.

I've been through many GSP axles on Nissans. The mechanical part never failed, but the outer boots would split at around 3-years. So I got an idea from the owners club to return a GSP for a new lifetime warranty exchange, then immediately replace the outer boots with new OEM boots and use Omni Lubricants Green Grease that clings better than the GSP grease. I think that was in 2015 -- a long time ago. It's still running well. A strange combination of parts that worked on a lowered vehicle that likes to chew up CV axles. OEM Nissan CV axles are in the $500 range like Toyota. Ours is not a unique problem.

The problem that I see with aftermarket CV axles on the 100 series comes from the splines mating up with the wheel flanges and getting the c-clip to fit perfectly. The time I tested an O'Reilly CV axle with a new wheel flange, the fit was too tight. So I returned the aftermarket axles and stayed with OEM.

 

[KamalMani]

I've been through many GSP axles on Nissans. The mechanical part never failed, but the outer boots would split at around 3-years. So I got an idea from the owners club to return a GSP for a new lifetime warranty exchange, then immediately replace the outer boots with new OEM boots and use Omni Lubricants Green Grease that clings better than the GSP grease. I think that was in 2015 -- a long time ago. It's still running well. A strange combination of parts that worked on a lowered vehicle that likes to chew up CV axles. OEM Nissan CV axles are in the $500 range like Toyota. Ours is not a unique problem.

The problem that I see with aftermarket CV axles on the 100 series comes from the splines mating up with the wheel flanges and getting the c-clip to fit perfectly. The time I tested an O'Reilly CV axle with a new wheel flange, the fit was too tight. So I returned the aftermarket axles and stayed with OEM.

That's an interesting approach. I read on a different thread that GSP axles were good enough and last up to 3 years or more. So with that thought, I'd have to buy the GSP axle for like $210, reboot the axle with a Toyota kit, and install it. Total damage would be ~$300ish. My actual concern is the outer spline and how it would mate with new axle flanges. I don't mind being the Guinea pig to try this out. With all this, if it lasts for 3-5 years, It is still a win. With Inflation, Money today is better than the same money tomorrow. So spending $900+ on brand new OEM axles for a 15-year-old gas guzzler seems a bit much for my use. Folks who do a lot of wheeling might have a different requirement and I understand their strong dogma on recommending OEM axles. My aftermarket CV experience is the thread I'm referring to.

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[OwnerCS]

That's an interesting approach. I read on a different thread that GSP axles were good enough and last up to 3 years or more. So with that thought, I'd have to buy the GSP axle for like $210, reboot the axle with a Toyota kit, and install it. Total damage would be ~$300ish. My actual concern is the outer spline and how it would mate with new axle flanges. I don't mind being the Guinea pig to try this out. With all this, if it lasts for 3-5 years, It is still a win. With Inflation, Money today is better than the same money tomorrow. So spending $900+ on brand new OEM axles for a 15-year-old gas guzzler seems a bit much for my use. Folks who do a lot of wheeling might have a different requirement and I understand their strong dogma on recommending OEM axles. My aftermarket CV experience is the thread I'm referring to.

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Definitely need to run the numbers to see if any of this makes sense today. At the time, the CV axles were $60 and the boots were under $30. I already had GSP axles that were being warrantied so the actual cash outlay was ~$30 for the boot and ~$20 for grease x2 plus my time.

The 100 is strictly for aggressive off-roading. Today, I have a whole different outlook and need for OEM.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

I read on a different thread that GSP axles were good enough and last up to 3 years or more.

Really depends on what type of joint they have. If they’re tripod joints, then there’s a high probability that they fail quickly. If they’re Rzeppa joints, like the OEM joints are, then they may last a while and just need a reboot sooner than OEM axles would.

 

[ClassyJalopy]

Really depends on what type of joint they have. If they’re tripod joints, then there’s a high probability that they fail quickly. If they’re Rzeppa joints, like the OEM joints are, then they may last a while and just need a reboot sooner than OEM axles would.

GSP has Rzeppa type joints

 

[Blindado]

I just put Napa reman cv's in my rig. Not new, oem reman.

They were identical to my original Toyota axles. Same paint, same markings, same weight- good, heavy Japanese steel expertly machined. Absolutely identical except the boots, which seem ok- thicker but not as supple as oem. The reman axles showed wear from use, and appear to be cleaned up and rebooted although I have no idea what was done inside. My thinking is that most cores they get simply have bad boots, we all know they're great axles.

They fit perfectly into brand new flanges and took the clip perfectly. I was worried about the splines and I don't know what they did to machine them. I inspected everything before I bought them. I'd imagine there could be some variability there. And I have no way of knowing if for example they replaced the balls with junk or whatever. But so far so good, no vibration or noise. I don't spend a lot of time down there admiring axles and they're going to be filthy in no time anyway. So far oem performance.

For $70 each after core return with a lifetime warranty I'll take the punt. I've got two good spare axles on my parts rig but didn't have time to reboot them. I'll eventually get around to it and will have them for spares. Regarding the lifetime warranty, when I asked if I can bring it in next week or in a decade with a little tear in the boot the guy said yup, just bring the reciept.

The guy who runs that store has been there a long time and really knows his stuff. In our conversation he said that Toyota is by far his biggest customer. No other dealer or buyer comes close. GM is a distant second.

He said the local Toyota dealer buys truckloads of rebuilt cv's, brake calipers, and steering racks, which are all crazy expensive new. He said they're rebuilt by Raybestos in Mexico. I said well I guess the dealer service customers never see the box and don't get the warranty.

I asked if non-Toyota oem parts could slip in and get rebuilt and sold. His answer was never, they only rebuild and sell real oem, which is easy to identify. I checked mine before I bought them.

I also got oem reman calipers front and rear and they're indeed oem, same stamps and weight, clearly Toyota. I'm sure the rebuild kit they use isn't the best but for $60 each with a 10 year warranty that's a no-brainer. Mine are underwater all the time. These are my second set of LC Napa reman calipers and the last ones were perfect for the next 60k we drove the truck and are still fine.

In general LC' dislike aftermarket parts and I avoid them like the plague. But oem reman are not aftermarket and carefully chosen are perfect for my 23 year old rig with 285k.

 

[KamalMani]

Definitely need to run the numbers to see if any of this makes sense today. At the time, the CV axles were $60 and the boots were under $30. I already had GSP axles that were being warrantied so the actual cash outlay was ~$30 for the boot and ~$20 for grease x2 plus my time.

The 100 is strictly for aggressive off-roading. Today, I have a whole different outlook and need for OEM.

I bought Carquest ones from Advanced Auto when they went on Sale last week for $65 a piece. $130 total with life time warranty. Looks like they are GSP with NCV69571 part#. I called GSP America to confirm that as well. If it lasts me 3 years, it's still a win for me since I don't do much wheeling and only deal with snow storms when driving to ski resorts and car camping.

 

[ClassyJalopy]

I bought Carquest ones from Advanced Auto when they went on Sale last week for $65 a piece. $130 total with life time warranty. Looks like they are GSP with NCV69571 part#. I called GSP America to confirm that as well. If it lasts me 3 years, it's still a win for me since I don't do much wheeling and only deal with snow storms when driving to ski resorts and car camping.

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Cool find. Let us know how the install goes!

 

[OwnerCS]

I bought Carquest ones from Advanced Auto when they went on Sale last week for $65 a piece. $130 total with life time warranty. Looks like they are GSP with NCV69571 part#. I called GSP America to confirm that as well. If it lasts me 3 years, it's still a win for me since I don't do much wheeling and only deal with snow storms when driving to ski resorts and car camping.

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