Toyo Open Country A/T III (2 Viewers)

[100d ua]

Do you air down? And if yes to what psi?

Of course, have to otherwise the ride is complete sh**. I go down to about 18 PSI.

 

[gungriffin]

Ridge Grapplers>> ATIIIs.

Nitto and Toyo tires are made in the same factory. As I understand it, they even use the same carcass. The only difference between comparable load rated tires is the tread on the outside of the tire. So in this instance, the sidewall would likely be about the same or exactly the same.

 

[gungriffin]

OP, just for clarification, was it ONLY the load range C tires that you were suffering breaks in the sidewall with?

To toss my .02 into the conversation, I have 315/75/16 Toyo ATIIIs in load e. I have had a sidewall break already. I have probably about 1000 trail miles on them. I came from ATIIs as my previous tire. I never had an issue with the 2s. It is my hope that the single sidewall puncture was just a fluke with the 3s.

 

[hoser]

Nitto and Toyo tires are made in the same factory.

Side note: I have had 6 sets of Toyo/Nitto tires. All the older ones, including my first set of Toyo MT's were made in Japan. The two most recent ATII and Trail Grapplers were made in the USA. I want to believe the ones made in Japan were of better quality but I can't prove it. =P

Anybody buy more recent LT tires from Toyo/Nitto that were made in Japan?

Edit: To answer my own question, the country of manufacture is dependent on tire size. Tire Rack lists them on their page. For the ATIII, half of the sizes are made in Japan and half in the US.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A%2FT+III&isSEO=true

 

[jLB]

Side note: I have had 6 sets of Toyo/Nitto tires. All the older ones, including my first set of Toyo MT's were made in Japan. The two most recent ATII and Trail Grapplers were made in the USA. I want to believe the ones made in Japan were of better quality but I can't prove it. =P

Anybody buy more recent LT tires from Toyo/Nitto that were made in Japan?

I put Nitto Terra Grapplers on mom's (H)eep WK2, while they've had lower mpg compared to the OE tires, we've been pleased with the results.

 

[Patassa]

Nitto and Toyo tires are made in the same factory. As I understand it, they even use the same carcass. The only difference between comparable load rated tires is the tread on the outside of the tire. So in this instance, the sidewall would likely be about the same or exactly the same.

My toyos only balanced well the first time, refused to stay balanced after that. The side walls have much less rubber / protection on them than the ridge Grapplers do. The rubber on the sidewall of the ATIII is little more than decorative.

 

[Hayesthebuilder]

My toyos only balanced well the first time, refused to stay balanced after that. The side walls have much less rubber / protection on them than the ridge Grapplers do. The rubber on the sidewall of the ATIII is little more than decorative.

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The sidewalls on LT E rated Toyo’s is quite a bit beefier. More specifically the black wall made in Georgia versions. Almost all P rated versions of AT tires have milder sidewall patterns.

 

[Patassa]

The sidewalls on LT E rated Toyo’s is quite a bit beefier. More specifically the black wall made in Georgia versions. Almost all P rated versions of AT tires have milder sidewall patterns.

I've had E rated versions of both. I didn't find the toyos sidewall to be different than that picture. In fact, found a picture of mine.

 

[96redformula]

The white lettering ones are also with less sidewall rubber even with Load E. Odd but I did em for the weight savings which was 3lbs lighter for a tire for 285/75/16 even being slightly larger diameter. I believe the OWL (White Letter) are made in Japan.

LT285/75R16	126/123R	E	OWL	355670	7.5-8.0-9.5	56	16.5	33.1	11.3	3750/3415	80/80	-	628
LT285/75R16	126/123R	E	BSW	355680	7.5-8.0-9.5	59	16.5	32.8	11.3	3750/3415	80/80	-	633

 

[hoser]

@96redformula Specs show 6lb difference on the Tirerack website.

 

[skw6r]

This is my second set of Toyo AT3s in E load (285/70/17). First set got a gash in the sidewall at about 30k miles, it was a good size and I was impressed that it lasted another 15k and ~20 trails before the gash fully gave out. This set (pictured) has about 3k miles and this time it looks like an impact to the sidewall caused it to split. This was at 16 PSI on a medium trail (I don’t remember a particularly out of the ordinary hard impact to that sidewall). A bit concerned that over time this will be a weak point and eventually give out the way it did on my last set.

 

[AZMoonshadow]

I would say it's probably best to replace the tire. We had a similar problem with the same brand/type of tire back in July of this year on a trip through Montana. Discount Tire took great care of us.

 

[skw6r]

I would say it's probably best to replace the tire. We had a similar problem with the same brand/type of tire back in July of this year on a trip through Montana. Discount Tire took great care of us. View attachment 3761952

Did you have discount tires replacement certificate on the tire when they replaced it for you?

 

[AZMoonshadow]

Did you have discount tires replacement certificate on the tire when they replaced it for you?

Absolutely!! I own multiple vehicles and all have certificates on them.