Towing with a 200-series Toyota Land Cruiser (1 Viewer)
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What year and model is that? I think Outdoors RVs are built really well. Why are you changing the axles? Curious!
2016 it’s an awesome camper, we had an airstream before this. Have close to 50k miles towing it on our 7th summer. Late last summer driving on permafrost roads hit a unexpected section of “whoops” and broke a leaf spring and slightly bent an axel. Replaced the leaf (I carry an extra) in the field and drove it as is for our last trip of the summer.
Since I had to Jack the entire camper up to do the axel and I was due tires I went ahead and replaced everything from the leaf springs down. Also since I run pretty close to the 6800 lb weight rating all the time when ahead and replaced everything with parts rated 9-10k as well as a +1 tire size.
Nicely done! With enough miles, it's not if but when Murphy visits. Always great to hear of a successful field recovery.
Knowing you're pushing the tow limits also (and in Alaska) on weight rating makes me feel better. Do you have any sway trouble with the bikes off the back?
prwillard2
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How low of temps do you take this trailer out in? I'm looking for a 4 season travel trailer and have focused primarily on Lance and Northwood for narrowing my purchase down. Is Black Rock still making travel trailers? Can't find their website online but maybe I'm missing something.
It’s an outdoor RV. A couple years ago they renamed their line. The new equivalent is the mountain series.
ORV | Mountain Series 5th Wheel Exterior Photos
Outdoors RV Manufacturing is located in a picturesque mountain valley of Eastern Oregon. The focus of Outdoors RV is to design RVs for the Four Seasons Climate and Rugged Terrain which encompasses the Outdoor landscape of the Western United States and Western Canada. Our goal is not to be the...
www.outdoorsrvmfg.com
It is very well insulated. We’ve used it down into the teens (F) in the fall with no issues. We’ve had it out a few times for a week where highs are in the 30’s and lows ~20F. Currently we are camping, it’s 48 F and raining, heat will only kick on every 3-4 hours.
prwillard2
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They seem to be overbuilt for sure! GVWR is about 8500 pounds with a 3000 pound carrying capacity. I'll try and take a look at them in person. They're on my short list now!It’s an outdoor RV. A couple years ago they renamed their line. The new equivalent is the mountain series.
ORV | Mountain Series 5th Wheel Exterior Photos
Outdoors RV Manufacturing is located in a picturesque mountain valley of Eastern Oregon. The focus of Outdoors RV is to design RVs for the Four Seasons Climate and Rugged Terrain which encompasses the Outdoor landscape of the Western United States and Western Canada. Our goal is not to be the...
It is very well insulated. We’ve used it down into the teens (F) in the fall with no issues. We’ve had it out a few times for a week where highs are in the 30’s and lows ~20F. Currently we are camping, it’s 48 F and raining, heat will only kick on every 3-4 hours.
They are very well built. There a ton of ORVs up here in AK, I had it down to Lance and ORV when we sold our Airstream. Both are good campers but now on summer 7, lots of great times all over AK and northern Canada still extremely happy with the ORV.
only thing I can say negative is they are heavy compared to the competition. But weight goes along with being overbuilt.
Just FYI, I looked at Northshore for the back of our RV, but this from their FAQs:
Can I use the NSR racks on my travel trailer or RV?
People use racks on the back of travel trailers and RVs all the time. Having said that just like all rack manufacturers we have a clause in our warranty regarding a void of warranty if used on RVs and trailers. The other thing to consider is the hitch. Bumper mounted hitches are not strong enough; you would need to have a frame mounted hitch. The racks can be subjected to quite a lot of highway bounce which can add stress to the rack and hitch. We would recommend contacting your local hitch specialist, so they can give their professional opinion.
Thanks. My receiver on the camper is welded to the frame. I also take the front wheels off to get the bikes as close as possible to the back of the camper. We have bikes with us most of the time and Haven’t had any problems with the rack, receiver or bikes. That said when we go north and carry fuel on a hitch tray or when the weather is really bad we put the bikes inside the camper.
Not having a good morning. My supervisor (the Mrs.) wanted me to go get the small enclosed trailer (5' x 10' aluminum Wells Cargo motorcycle trailer, 1 axle) from storage and haul around a bunch of couch sections and other furniture (rearranging everything...again...don't ask). It seems my LC is missing the trailer plug receptacle, the harness / pigtail that connects the receptacle to the truck's wiring, and the steel bracket that holds the trailer plug receptacle underneath / inboard of the rear bumper.
I already knew that the selling dealer managed tosteal not include the OEM drawbar and attached shiny 2" hitch ball that was inside the back of the LC when I inspected it prior to purchase back in April. That's fine - I still have the OEM drawbar and hitch ball from my 2009 LC, so it should be just plug and play, right? (I had already added the missing 2018 drawbar and ball to the list of "problems" for the Grand Reckoning(TM) that is coming...multiple "problems" with this 2018 CPO purchase, thanks to the "team" at the selling dealership; Toyota corporate is involved but standing on the sidelines for the moment....)
So, today's project is dead in the water, and I'm back to looking at parts diagrams, searching on Mud...the fun never seems to end.
Questions for the hive:
1. I thought I read somewhere earlier (in this thread) that this bracket, receptacle and harness may be installed at port, rather than at the factory in Japan. That said, does every US bound LC get this installed automatically? I would have thought so.... I think it's pretty amazing that my LC passed Toyota's "rigorous 160 point QA inspection" for CPO, but somehow was delivered to me missing all sorts of parts and components.
2. Does anyone have the part numbers for the bracket, receptacle and wire harness? 2018 LC200.
3. Before I go back to the parts counter again, does anyone who has replaced their rear bumper have any or all of these parts that they have removed and would be willing to sell?
Thanks.
I already knew that the selling dealer managed to
So, today's project is dead in the water, and I'm back to looking at parts diagrams, searching on Mud...the fun never seems to end.
Questions for the hive:
1. I thought I read somewhere earlier (in this thread) that this bracket, receptacle and harness may be installed at port, rather than at the factory in Japan. That said, does every US bound LC get this installed automatically? I would have thought so.... I think it's pretty amazing that my LC passed Toyota's "rigorous 160 point QA inspection" for CPO, but somehow was delivered to me missing all sorts of parts and components.
2. Does anyone have the part numbers for the bracket, receptacle and wire harness? 2018 LC200.
3. Before I go back to the parts counter again, does anyone who has replaced their rear bumper have any or all of these parts that they have removed and would be willing to sell?
Thanks.
I had exact same issue with my 2018 LC. I ordered part on eBay and just installed. Search below on eBay and you will find it. I attached picture and diagrams
“2008-2020 LAND CRUISER TOW HITCH WIRE HARNESS CONNECTOR PLUG OEM TOYOTA”
I think Toyota should just send these to folks who didn’t get them. Seems to happen more than it should. Good luck!azstreamer
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The 2020 and 2021 sales literature says there is both a 4 wire and 7 wire trailer connection like on my 2021 model 200 LC built in December 2021. In the glove box was a white plug with four or five wires to enable connection of my RV brake controller. So the RV connectors on the right rear came installed. {this is not the item shown in the post above}
Here is a link to the Toyota website for 2018 LC manuals if it would help:
www.toyota.com
This link gets you access to all the Toyota tech manuals (for a charge of course)
I hope this helps.
The Owners manuals speaking about the trailer plugs is proof it was not an after market device.
This took me awhile to type, so the post above is more informative....
Here is a link to the Toyota website for 2018 LC manuals if it would help:
Toyota Manuals and Warranties | Toyota Owners
Explore warranty details, owner manuals, and essential guides for your vehicle conveniently on My Toyota.
This link gets you access to all the Toyota tech manuals (for a charge of course)
I hope this helps.
The Owners manuals speaking about the trailer plugs is proof it was not an after market device.
This took me awhile to type, so the post above is more informative....
Thanks very much @NTV and @azstreamer - BTW I love this place and all of the accumulated knowledge here. I didn't know that the tech manuals were available to regular folks (other than dealers and verified/vetted service shops). I will look into subscribing, and will ask my friend with the repair shop if he has a subscription.
I've ordered the tow hitch wire harness assembly (full part number 82169-60080) - about $150 with my friend's discount from the local T dealership - will be here tomorrow morning.
I do see the trailer connector mentioned in the manual - thanks - and I agree that provides evidence that it is "supposed to be there". (I can't imagine that this wouldn't be a factory installed part, but I felt I should hedge, given the previous comment elsewhere in this thread.) My particular truck was definitely used for towing, so /someone/ took this assembly off this truck between when the prior owner used it to tow and when I took delivery. Maybe it's item 161 on the "rigorous 160-point QA inspection" for Toyota CPO vehicles. Maybe it was taken by the same /someone/ whostole borrowed the drawbar & hitch ball that was in the back of the truck when I agreed to purchase it?
I'm on the phone with Toyota corporate now...inching forward, ever so gradually, towards the Grand Reckoning (TM) ....
Follow-up question(s): is the drawbar included with a new LC automatically, or is it an option / add-on that is purchased separately? I seem to recall that it came with my 2009 LC200 that I purchased new, but I don't remember if that one had a ball already attached. As I'm assembling part numbers and costs for the Grand Reckoning (TM), if anyone knows that part number that would be a great help.
I've ordered the tow hitch wire harness assembly (full part number 82169-60080) - about $150 with my friend's discount from the local T dealership - will be here tomorrow morning.
I do see the trailer connector mentioned in the manual - thanks - and I agree that provides evidence that it is "supposed to be there". (I can't imagine that this wouldn't be a factory installed part, but I felt I should hedge, given the previous comment elsewhere in this thread.) My particular truck was definitely used for towing, so /someone/ took this assembly off this truck between when the prior owner used it to tow and when I took delivery. Maybe it's item 161 on the "rigorous 160-point QA inspection" for Toyota CPO vehicles. Maybe it was taken by the same /someone/ who
I'm on the phone with Toyota corporate now...inching forward, ever so gradually, towards the Grand Reckoning (TM) ....
Follow-up question(s): is the drawbar included with a new LC automatically, or is it an option / add-on that is purchased separately? I seem to recall that it came with my 2009 LC200 that I purchased new, but I don't remember if that one had a ball already attached. As I'm assembling part numbers and costs for the Grand Reckoning (TM), if anyone knows that part number that would be a great help.
azstreamer
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There was a Toyota branded 8,000 pound draw bar in a box with no ball as I remember. Would have to be 2 ⅝” Ball to tow over 5,000 pound trailer. That was in the Toyota miscellanous parts along with afore mentioned adaper cord to attach the brake controller to the Toyota wiring harness I think the steel is one inch thick on the draw bar
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FrazzledHunter
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Anyone know anything or own an Xplore X22 from Imperial Outdoors?
All they had was a toy hauler but they have a new model, the X22, out that looks great for us.
Their dry weight is reported as 5370lbs and max weight as 8820 lbs.
Any thoughts on the weight?
I was intrigued by these trailers for:
XploreRV XR22 | Imperial Outdoors | United States - https://www.imperial-outdoors.com/xplorerv-xr22
XPLORE EXTREME OFF-ROAD TEST (2021) Off roading a large travel trailer RV camper overland - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmIGnX_a4zk
All they had was a toy hauler but they have a new model, the X22, out that looks great for us.
Their dry weight is reported as 5370lbs and max weight as 8820 lbs.
Any thoughts on the weight?
I was intrigued by these trailers for:
- All fiberglass construction including (I think) the roof.
- Insulation & what looks like a good approach to mold prevention which is a layer of insulation behind the inside panels and structural menbers that conduct less heat.
- Unfortunately, we know about mold and how it gets into trailers.
- Unfortunately, we know about mold and how it gets into trailers.
- Off-road capability. It seems great as per the videos but we'd never go that extreme.
- Ability to air up/down similar to a LX.
XploreRV XR22 | Imperial Outdoors | United States - https://www.imperial-outdoors.com/xplorerv-xr22
XPLORE EXTREME OFF-ROAD TEST (2021) Off roading a large travel trailer RV camper overland - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmIGnX_a4zk
Anyone know anything or own an Xplore X22 from Imperial Outdoors?
All they had was a toy hauler but they have a new model, the X22, out that looks great for us.
Their dry weight is reported as 5370lbs and max weight as 8820 lbs.
Any thoughts on the weight?
I was intrigued by these trailers for:
- All fiberglass construction including (I think) the roof.
- Insulation & what looks like a good approach to mold prevention which is a layer of insulation behind the inside panels and structural menbers that conduct less heat.
- Unfortunately, we know about mold and how it gets into trailers.
- Off-road capability. It seems great as per the videos but we'd never go that extreme.
- Ability to air up/down similar to a LX.
XploreRV XR22 | Imperial Outdoors | United States - https://www.imperial-outdoors.com/xplorerv-xr22
XPLORE EXTREME OFF-ROAD TEST (2021) Off roading a large travel trailer RV camper overland - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmIGnX_a4zk
As heavy as it is, it must be built like a tank!
