Builds The Guzzler - 2009 LX570 (1 Viewer)

[grinchy]

Clever idea.

I was taught a low tech way to help avoid unspooling too far - wrap a bright colored (I used yellow) electrical tape around your winch line at the point where it exits the fairlead when you have the correct number of wraps remaining on the drum. It doesn't prevent you from unspooling the line too far, but it does provide a visual cue that you should stop unspooling.

Yep, I was going that way, but I like stupid proof even better. This prevents the user unrolling the last few wraps entirely.
In the dark, just need another foot to reach the anchor etc

Rolling it myself I could make it exactly as long as 8 wraps (Ironman states 5 in their manual, which I think is too few), for my rope diameter. And if I messed up I can make another in 20 min.

Ideally Red winch will get a us distributor, that have some very cool winches.

 

[grinchy]

A video showing the plasma lock install

 

[grinchy]

Had another heavy rain yesterday and my sunroof again didn’t drain fast enough. I have a new gasket but haven’t had the combination of weekend and sunny required to put it in.
Also have the drain cleaner recommended on another thread, will try to at least get the front drains declogged this weekend.

 

[grinchy]

Ironman4x4 12k winch has arrived. Note for future buyers, if you select the small control box you’ll get both, the small box ships separately.
Cello recital so haven’t gotten it unpackaged yet. No rush, the bumper is still a month out.

 

[grinchy]

Have opened up the Ironman4x4 Monster winch packaging:
Box 1 - Winch. Triple boxed! Exterior box stapled and taped. Some minor styrofoam crushing in the inner box, nothing unusual. The control box is pretty big. Wireless adapter and wireless/wired controller. Five pin at winch, four pin at controller. Includes a rope blanket and cabling section. Also a hook and what looks like a cast fairlead which is pretty heavy.
Box 2 - Small control box. Another wireless adapter and wired/wireless controller, as well as two spare batteries. Small control box is a bit more sane in size. Also includes another entire set of cabling.

Packaging states 94 ft of 3/8" rope (9mm, 28m). States explicitly the brake is a cam lock in drum (similar to the Runva brake I guess).

 

[grinchy]

Ironman4x4 2022 12k winch 6 pin (5 pin used) controller wiring
Clockwise from control box plug, (white mark at 12pm, index slot at 3pm)
Top, 1pm/1300hrs - 12v - Red
3p/1500hrs - Relay Gnd - Black
5p/1700hrs - Winch out
7p/1900hrs - Gnd - Black
9p/2100hrs- winch in
11p/2300hrs - plugged/no pin

Controller (hand held)
Four pins, in a line
from left to right, notch up
out
in
12v
Gnd (joined to both Relay Gnd and Gnd)

I'll add the colors once I take the box apart.

 

[grinchy]

Got the relays wired up and working thru adding the wye into the controller wiring.
A bit stumped, the three posts 'relay ground', winch in, and winch out on the controller (spade terminals) are all bridged on the controller (continuity between all 3). Seems odd. <edit - I guess both sides will show continuity through their separate coils, resistance is about 5 ohm per coil, 10 across the two . . . . I did hook up the controller to 12v and gnd and it works fine wired like this>
Otherwise the relays fit in the 'small' control box fine. The box isn't weather sealed at all, drain hole etc. This is probably for the best, 12v isn't too fussed by water, and the contactor itself looks sealed.

 

[grinchy]

The good news, the relays do work to prevent both directions going to the motor at once.
The bad news, I don't even have the switch wires hooked up and its starts immediately cycling the contactor.
Sigh.

 

[grinchy]

Experimentation with electricity indicates that I had the NO and NC pins swapped on the relay. Used a pin out posted by a user on the selling page, it was backwards to the numbering on the diagram I followed for the exclusive switching.

 

[grinchy]

All fixed up.
Contactor is switching based on grounding the blue switch wires per the Slee diagram linked earlier.
Here is the mapping for the little relays used.
This smaller control box doesn’t use grommets like the big box. So I’ll just drill and silicone the dash control wires in, or maybe just chip away a small piece of plastic and fit it around another wire penetration.

 

[grinchy]

Itty bitty relays

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0874LPJ1N

 

[supercarrera]

Thanks! Yeah not sure which type the Ironman uses, I was going to have to noodle it out if it was 3 wire, glad to have this reference!
Can you go into some detail on the selection/on off side of the switching that you implemented?
I’d like my ignition sourced winch on/off switch in the cab to trigger a high amp relay/isolator for winch power (and controller) and also turn the ground on for
the momentary switches in the cab to use via the controller wiring. Is this a viable plan?

I can't really remember for sure what I did with that 3-way switch. I'm pretty sure I just simply put it in line with the antenna switch and the external controller circuit in the winch controller box.

 

[grinchy]

Thanks. I've been drawing various wiring diagrams when I have some think time.
So far the winner is:

Winch On/Off switch
(ign 12v) -> on -> winch on/off relay
This runs thru the firewall to the 500a battery isolator I'm using as a winch on/off control. The isolator then will provide battery +12v to the winch. To light the 'on' light on the LED at the switch I need to put 12v thru the switch. . . . could also use a separate relay to GND switch the isolator, but this is slightly simpler.

Momentary switch
(GND) -> Signal Winch In (GND) or Signal WInch Out (GND) -> winch control box relays
The GND will be a factory in cab ground behind the dash. The two signal wires will run thru the firewall to the winch controller custom wired XOR relays I built and wired into the winch control box consistent with the Slee dagram.

 

[grinchy]

Finished wiring the trailer socket in, redid the trailer box wiring, labeled all the wires.
Used a $30 Bluetooth label maker, and covered them with gorilla clear duct tape. I think it’ll last for a while.
Was able to take the spacers out from behind the socket, wire just barely fit.

Moving on to what I can pre-wire for the winch and bumper install. I think I’m going to go completely redo the engine room wiring while I’m at it.

 

[grinchy]

Front bumper delayed to mid summer. Maybe longer.

 

[grinchy]

I’m looking for a sample circuit. I’d like to run the circuit on ignition power. However I’d like to be able to switch the circuit over to battery power manually. And I’d like for it not to blow up if I forget to turn the battery override off when ign is available.
Has anyone seen such a circuit? Using a dpdt relay maybe?

 

[lx200inAR]

I’m looking for a sample circuit. I’d like to run the circuit on ignition power. However I’d like to be able to switch the circuit over to battery power manually. And I’d like for it not to blow up if I forget to turn the battery override off when ign is available.
Has anyone seen such a circuit? Using a dpdt relay maybe?

Maybe just a dpst switch?

 

[grinchy]

Maybe? I guess I’m looking for a circuit that breaks the battery connection if ign is later applied.
Normal open - ign
Exception closed - battery
Ign occurs - return to normal open
That way it requires another override/exception to use battery

 

[grinchy]

Looks like a latching relay energized by a momentary switch for battery on, and canceled by the next ign on condition (and also by a momentary switch 'off').
So a three position momentary switch
A latching relay
and wiring into a ignition controlled relay.

I am open to ideas for simplifying this.

 

[lx200inAR]

I see...i was missing the "self resetting" aspect you were looking for.