Tailgate window operator

[cjr60]

Hey brains trust.
Taken delivery of my latest headache yesterday afternoon, heaps of work to get through and I’m looking forward to it.

I haven’t put a battery in yet, wondering if anyone knows how the rear window is operated? Any help would be appreciated

 

[charliemeyer007]

I think there is a switch on the dash and the key on the back door. Wiring diagram for rig would help.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

I think there is a switch on the dash and the key on the back door. Wiring diagram for rig would help.

Yes. There is also a relay in the circuit.

You might start here:

Rear window article available from Gary S

I was digging through the computer at work yesterday and came across the file with all the stuff from my article years ago In Toyota Trails about rear window operation and stuff on the FJ55. I'd be glad to send it in to Mud to have listed in the tech section but don't know how to go about it...

forum.ih8mud.com

That thread is in the "Iron Pig Preservation Society" section at the bottom of the main forum page.

 

[Pighead]

I haven’t put a battery in yet, wondering if anyone knows how the rear window is operated? Any help would be appreciated

I know how mine works, yours looks different. Yours looks like an Aussie tailgate, some in Oz used a hand-crank. Take off the inner panel of the tailgate and see what's inside.

 

[jmylie]

My 77 has a switch on the dash and there is a key (not the ignition key) for the tailgate that lowers the window.

 

[Pighead]

Here's a US tailgate, the key switch runs an electric motor that usually moves the window up and down. Toggle switch on the dash does the same.
Your key is offset and you have a cover, or panel in the center of the door. Does that move? Is that hiding where the crank handle fits?

 

[WarDamnEagle]

I know how mine works, yours looks different. Yours looks like an Aussie tailgate, some in Oz used a hand-crank. Take off the inner panel of the tailgate and see what's inside.

Good catch. I didn't even notice.

Here's the part's diagram for an Aussie mechanical window. Not sure what that crank handle looks like but guessing you can probably use a socket to operate it. Just have to open the cover and take a look. Apologies, I had to copy this diagram in two parts.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Here's the parts list that goes with the diagram. Ignore the pricing shown......it's meaningless.

66610	LOCK ASSY, TAIL GATE
69350-91145	RH.	1	$119.01
69380-91145	LH.	1	$119.01
66616	STRIKER, TAIL GATE LOCK
69428-90351	RH.	1
69429-90351	LH.	1
66622	LINER, TAIL GATE LOCK STRIKER
69463-90351	RH.	1
69464-90351	LH.	1
66710	STAY ASSY, TAIL GATE, RH
72730-90351		1	$98.41
66720	STAY ASSY, TAIL GATE, LH
72740-90351		1
67281A	PLATE, TAIL GATE SWITCH
65677-90351		1
67282	STOPPER, BACK DOOR, NO.1
	Not applicable
68326	CLIP(FOR TAIL GATE REMOTE CONTROL LINK)
68326-91207		5	$3.68
68803	HINGE ASSY, BACK DOOR, LOWER RH
72405-90351	(03/1976 - 06/1980)	1	$121.81
72413-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$73.70
68804	HINGE ASSY, BACK DOOR, LOWER LH
72406-90351	(03/1976 - 06/1980)	1	$126.32
72414-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$62.55
68830	HINGE ASSY, BACK DOOR, RH
72402-90351	(03/1976 - 11/1977)	1	$190.53
72402-90352	(12/1977 - 06/1980)	1
72411-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$73.70
68840	HINGE ASSY, BACK DOOR, LH
72412-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$73.70
72418-90351	(03/1976 - 11/1977)	1	$138.54
72418-90352	(12/1977 - 06/1980)	1
68841	COVER, TORSION BAR, RH
72411-90352		1
68883	BUSH, TAIL GATE HINGE SHAFT
72415-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	2	$3.68
90386-12002	(03/1976 - 06/1980)	2	$2.69
68884	SHAFT, TAIL GATE HINGE
68884-91133		2	$11.47
68888	PLATE, TAIL GATE TORSION SPRING CONNECT
72402-91133		1	$5.34
68896	SPRING, TAIL GATE TORSION
72422-90352		1
68898	SHEET, TAIL GATE HINGE PILLAR SIDE, RH
72416-90351	(03/1976 - 12/1977)	1	$4.07
72416-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$3.36
68899	SHEET, TAIL GATE HINGE PILLAR SIDE, LH
72416-90351	(03/1976 - 12/1977)	1	$4.07
72416-91133	(03/1969 - 02/1976)	1	$3.36
69112	RETAINER, GEAR BOX
73112-91133		2	$20.80
69114	SUPPORT, TAIL GATE REGULATOR MOTOR, OUTER
73114-91133		1
69117	CUSHION, TAIL GATE REGULATOR MOTOR, OUTER
73117-91133		1
69120	BOX ASSY, TAIL GATE REGULATOR GEAR
73105-90352	MECHANICAL TYPE	1
73120-90351		1	$104.50
69124A	HOLDER, TAIL GATE SUPPORT STAY
61571-90351		2	$34.75
69250	HANDLE ASSY, TAIL GATE LOCK
69230-90351		1	$169.38
69255	PAD, BACK DOOR HANDLE
69236-90351		1	$5.34
69288	PAD, FRONT BACK DOOR HANDLE
72793-91176		1	$37.56
69313	WIRE, TAIL GATE LOCK, NO.1
72611-90903		3	$30.01
69314	WIRE, TAIL GATE LOCK, NO.2
72612-90903		1	$38.55
69315	WIRE, TAIL GATE LOCK, NO.3
72613-90351		1	$8.42
69315A	SPRING, NO.3 TAIL GATE LOCK WIRE
90506-09043		1	$3.68
69353A	PLATE, BACK DOOR LOCK CONTROL
	Not applicable
69360	LINK ASSY, TAIL GATE REMOTE CONTROL
72604-90351		1	$204.13
69388	SNAP, ROD(FOR DOOR LOCK)
69361-20020	(01/1977 - 06/1980)	1	$2.13
69388-12010	(03/1969 - 12/1976)	1	$2.29
69465	CUSHION, TAIL GATE LOCK STRIKER, A
69465-91145		2
69678	PLATE, CONNECT
69678-91207		2
69679	BOLT SUB-ASSY, CONNECT
69679-91207		2
69750A	GROMMET(FOR BACK DOOR REMOTE CONTROL)
73104-91133		1	$59.35
69850	COVER ASSY, TAIL GATE HOLE
73107-90352	MECHANICAL TYPE	1	$75.56
69850A	PACKING, TAIL GATE HOLE
73175-90351	MECHANICAL TYPE	1	$38.23
69850B	LOCK, TAIL GATE HOLE COVER
73180-90351	MECHANICAL TYPE	1
69860	REGULATOR ASSY, TAIL GATE
73110-90351		1	$359.39
73150-90352	MECHANICAL TYPE (11/1975 - 11/1976)	1	$979.41
73150-90353	MECHANICAL TYPE (12/1976 - 12/1978)	1	$979.41
69860A	HANDLE ASSY, TAIL GATE REGULATOR
73160-90351	MECHANICAL TYPE (12/1971 - 11/1976)	1	$317.68
73160-90352	MECHANICAL TYPE (12/1976 - 08/1977)	1
73160-90353	MECHANICAL TYPE (09/1977 - 12/1978)	1
69909	HOLDER SUB-ASSY, TAIL GATE GLASS
73130-91133		1	$23.63
69915	SUPPORT, TAIL GATE REGULATOR MOTOR, INNER
73115-91133		1	$4.74
69916	CUSHION, TAIL GATE REGULATOR MOTOR, INNER
73116-91133

 

[cjr60]

Thanks everyone, I’ll put a battery in and see what happens, once I’m finished cleaning the inside then I’ll pull the panel off and have a look at the operations. Thanks again

 

[WarDamnEagle]

I would start by seeing if this cover opens. It appears to be hinged on the right. I assume it just flips open.

 

[cjr60]

I would start by seeing if this cover opens. It appears to be hinged on the right. I assume it just flips open.

View attachment 3691255

yep it opens up, cannot see a mechanical winder or motor setup, ill see what happens when I open pandoras box inside. assume it will be controlled by one of the three unaccounted for switches on the dash!

 

[Pighead]

If you have a handcrank rear window, you're not going to have a motor, and switches won't help

 

[WarDamnEagle]

yep it opens up, cannot see a mechanical winder or motor setup, ill see what happens when I open pandoras box inside. assume it will be controlled by one of the three unaccounted for switches on the dash!

It was definitely mechanical when it left the factory. Otherwise it would not have had that cover. Is there not an obvious male or female something that could connect to a handle?

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Like this one:

 

[cjr60]

Like this one:

View attachment 3691266

ive got this handle in the box of spares, im assuming the window crank inside there has dropped down or is broken, ill add it to the list of thousands that need tote fixed! thanks again