SQOD Squad - Stupid Question Of the Day (5 Viewers)

[relaxing]

The Service Manuals don't list part numbers for anything. Where does one find the part numbers?

 

[cruiserdan]

The Service Manuals don't list part numbers for anything. Where does one find the part numbers?

Parts catalogs.

 

[tpgrole]

Getting ready to start some preventative maintenance on my 2014 thats approaching 180k miles. I'm replacing the radiator, water pump, pulleys, belt, hoses, etc. I have everything I need and was going to do this today, but now I'm second guessing my decision to NOT swap the alternator while doing the other things. Should I replace the alternator as well?

 

[Willie G]

Getting ready to start some preventative maintenance on my 2014 thats approaching 180k miles. I'm replacing the radiator, water pump, pulleys, belt, hoses, etc. I have everything I need and was going to do this today, but now I'm second guessing my decision to NOT swap the alternator while doing the other things. Should I replace the alternator as well?

If you haven't already, this link might be helpful:

Alternator brushes as PM - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/alternator-brushes-as-pm.1337740/

 

[relaxing]

Parts catalogs.

Thanks! So looking at an online parts catalog, the diagrams for the various systems don’t list the fasteners needed?

Where do people get diagrams like this?

Or to get to the point, what bolts are needed for the exhaust system? I’m going to drop the exhaust and I’m expecting it all to be badly rusted.

 

[cruiserdan]

From the exhaust system section under tool, engine, fuel.

 

[grinchy]

An online source for those is any dealer parts website.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time staring at partsouq diagrams.

 

[relaxing]

An online source for those is any dealer parts website.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time staring at partsouq diagrams.

thanks for that. the dealer site i was on just wasn’t giving it to me. partsouq had the diagram right away.

 

[relaxing]

next dumb question, is there a trick to snaking the exhaust around and off the rear axle and frame crossmembers?

 

[linuxgod]

The Service Manuals don't list part numbers for anything. Where does one find the part numbers?

Partsouq!

 

[relaxing]

next dumb question, is there a trick to snaking the exhaust around and off the rear axle and frame crossmembers?

The trick was to get the rear end up another foot with a big jack.

My 8” ramps + ahc slammed in low = not enough ground clearance to swing the tailpipe over the axle.

 

[tpgrole]

If you haven't already, this link might be helpful:

Alternator brushes as PM - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/alternator-brushes-as-pm.1337740/

I decided to order the brush holder assembly as mentioned in bloc's post. I'm really struggling with the removal of the alternator, and getting the power steering pump out of the way. I can't find a good thread that helps much.

Can the power steering pump be loosened up and moved out of the way without disconnecting it completely, so that I can remove the alternator? It's late, and dark here, so I was doing my best with the lighting I had, but couldn't figure it out. I'm also tired, which isn't helping.

 

[bloc]

I decided to order the brush holder assembly as mentioned in bloc's post. I'm really struggling with the removal of the alternator, and getting the power steering pump out of the way. I can't find a good thread that helps much.

Can the power steering pump be loosened up and moved out of the way without disconnecting it completely, so that I can remove the alternator? It's late, and dark here, so I was doing my best with the lighting I had, but couldn't figure it out. I'm also tired, which isn't helping.

Yes, when I did the above alternator job I left the pump hoses connected. See the following thread to physically get it loose.

Thread 'Power Steering pump removal trick'

Apr 29, 2024

I just got done doing some other work and was able to get pictures of something that used to frustrate me about working on cars.

Toyota and others use something of a sliding clamping system on certain accessories like power steering pumps, alternators, etc. This system is often used to add stability and alignment to those accessories, and makes them very easy to install, but can be a challenge to get the part out for maintenance.

The tricky part is circled here in red. It is a lug of metal that is a press-fit into the aluminum wing of the timing cover, and is pushed toward the rear of...

• bloc
• Replies: 12
• Forum: 200-Series Cruisers

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[tpgrole]

Yes, when I did the above alternator job I left the pump hoses connected. See the following thread to physically get it loose.

Thread 'Power Steering pump removal trick'

Apr 29, 2024

I just got done doing some other work and was able to get pictures of something that used to frustrate me about working on cars.

Toyota and others use something of a sliding clamping system on certain accessories like power steering pumps, alternators, etc. This system is often used to add stability and alignment to those accessories, and makes them very easy to install, but can be a challenge to get the part out for maintenance.

The tricky part is circled here in red. It is a lug of metal that is a press-fit into the aluminum wing of the timing cover, and is pushed toward the rear of...

• bloc
• Replies: 12
• Forum: 200-Series Cruisers

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I saw that, thank you!

Does the pet power steering pump have to be removed to pull the alternator? I ran out of time/ daylight today, but hoping to wrap this project up tomorrow.

 

[bloc]

I saw that, thank you!

Does the pet power steering pump have to be removed to pull the alternator? I ran out of time/ daylight today, but hoping to wrap this project up tomorrow.

Pretty sure it does need to come off it's mounts to make room for the alt to slip out the front. I'm certain I didn't D/C the lines though, so it must have just been loose in the area.

 

[tpgrole]

Pretty sure it does need to come off it's mounts to make room for the alt to slip out the front. I'm certain I didn't D/C the lines though, so it must have just been loose in the area.

To get the pump off the mounts, do you recall how many bolts hold it in place? And do they all come out the front, through the openings in the pully?

 

[bloc]

To get the pump off the mounts, do you recall how many bolts hold it in place? And do they all come out the front, through the openings in the pully?

Two bolts, they do come out the front holes. Pay special attention to the detail in the above thread about using the upper bolt to drive the clamping lug backward. If that isn’t done the pump will fight your attempts to get it out.

I seem to remember someone else using a bolt into the back of the clamping lug and some spacers around the lug, against the aluminum casting it is inserted into, to draw it away from the pump body but can’t recall where I saw that.

 

[Sandroad]

I decided to order the brush holder assembly as mentioned in bloc's post. I'm really struggling with the removal of the alternator, and getting the power steering pump out of the way. I can't find a good thread that helps much.

Can the power steering pump be loosened up and moved out of the way without disconnecting it completely, so that I can remove the alternator? It's late, and dark here, so I was doing my best with the lighting I had, but couldn't figure it out. I'm also tired, which isn't helping.

A headlamp makes a world of difference when you need lighting for a job like that.

https://www.amazon.com/Petzl-Tikka-Headlamp-Lighting-Climbing/dp/B09ZN7X4TB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3K3F8IJYHXRDJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oZWt0fwb9xcHla2YIO83IP1eRtNvX8tFmdHPTNTOYTm69wwMzDa2-wmEa6-bWCqi-LMQ08NG3AX2nl0WSMSaS08CWhtmdnlsQMWOtW-ZuOz3tg3qRE8v2kcgq-m_Ak5_F8fXbqhuLaqvxG2NB_TX1OBa-5MgizwFPSOpscNuLTjrLZxCKNgza4SSPkviR7YZ41LY_I0tXafP4Ii04m6n80zCkCo9Ie1psRlOQagzfISCtdAiN3FoasXSUskMKOp2QQ-l2-rI0R8ZTOWJ7Bz6-vbTNvXmEC9Z2Nr_8L2JLHg.OVrYxnQnxB36RocQiEWlcTD5pblLks9piIBxH85xR78&dib_tag=se&keywords=Headlamp&qid=1754394682&refinements=p_123%3A240874&rnid=85457740011&sprefix=headlamp%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-4&th=1

 

[tpgrole]

Two bolts, they do come out the front holes. Pay special attention to the detail in the above thread about using the upper bolt to drive the clamping lug backward. If that isn’t done the pump will fight your attempts to get it out.

I seem to remember someone else using a bolt into the back of the clamping lug and some spacers around the lug, against the aluminum casting it is inserted into, to draw it away from the pump body but can’t recall where I saw that.

Thank you very much for the great information! Pump came out without problem this morning. What type of drive is used to remove the bolt in the attached pic.

 

[bloc]

Thank you very much for the great information! Pump came out without problem this morning. What type of drive is used to remove the bolt in the attached pic. View attachment 3964638

That is an inverted torx, sometimes called e-torx. I don’t know why it would need to come out though? Just remove the nut on the end and the alternator slides off.

If the alternator seems stuck it’s the metal sleeve to the right corroded into its spot on the alternator. I wrote about that specifically in the brush change thread.