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For those of you who added an M12000 winch behind an aftermarket bumper-

how did you account for the little bracket that buttresses the middle part of the bumper skin backing.

The winch drum diameter is too large to avoid hitting it. My temp solution was to bend the bracket off to the side. Would like to know what others have done.

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I cut the middle out of mine. Been like that for 4-5 years and no extra play in the grill etc.

I also cut the middle out of mine. No problems
 
I used my local Toyota quick lube for many years. They screwed up several times and I called them out on it. The second time I gave them no quarter and flat out asked for my money back on the complete service. Which I got. In doing my oil change (for the first time) on my LC I noticed that the filter housing was terribly over torqued. So much so that I had to use a cheater bar. As such, I have lost confidence in their quick lube service. Though their main service would do the work, I actually took my Tacoma to an indy shop for its 60K service.

All that aside, you are doing what I would recommend talk to the owner and see what they have to say.

Lexus dealer also ugga dugga'd my oil pan drain bolt and stripped the threads. I had to replace the whole pan. Can't even trust anyone with simple stuff like oil changes. :/

All of this is a big part of why oil changes are higher on my list of things not to let a shop do than some other stuff. You're less likely to get the competent tech, and the sheer number of changes over the life of the vehicle drastically increases the odds of finding the one guy that DGAF or was totally incompetent.

Look how many dealer-serviced rigs can't even get the splash shield bolts back into the right spots?
 
All of this is a big part of why oil changes are higher on my list of things not to let a shop do than some other stuff. You're less likely to get the competent tech, and the sheer number of changes over the life of the vehicle drastically increases the odds of finding the one guy that DGAF or was totally incompetent.

Look how many dealer-serviced rigs can't even get the splash shield bolts back into the right spots?
Perhaps there is some sort of hybrid that makes sense.
They do the work but we check it after?

Like a “trust but verify.”
 
Perhaps there is some sort of hybrid that makes sense.
They do the work but we check it after?

Like a “trust but verify.”
Not knocking anyone, but oil changes are very easy and take maybe 30 mins DIY. They require only a few hand tools and a set of ramps.

Get a drain valve like this: The Best Quick Oil Drain Plugs - No-Spill Systems - https://nospillsystems.com/ and you can drain directly into a milk jug or other bottle, no need for a drain pan after your first oil change.

Realistically, driving to a dealer and waiting for an oil change will take longer than just doing it yourself.

It is also a great chance to look around the bottom of your truck to make sure there is nothing wrong (leaks, road debris damage, nail in a tire, etc).
 
Look how many dealer-serviced rigs can't even get the splash shield bolts back into the right spots?
This is one of the things I laugh about most when people post up vehicles for sale and say "dealer serviced every 5k miles".

At what point is going to the dealer actually a detriment to buying a vehicle.
 
This is one of the things I laugh about most when people post up vehicles for sale and say "dealer serviced every 5k miles".

At what point is going to the dealer actually a detriment to buying a vehicle.
I recall my first visit to a Lexus dealer around 1990, to look at the new LS 400. It was an awesome experience, totally different from the usual car dealership nightmares. Beautiful showroom, courteous and knowledgeable sales person, and very impressive car. Back then, they bent over backwards to accommodate customers. It was worth the one hour drive to go there for service.
Today, they still have the spacious showroom and fancy waiting room, but I look around the showroom and it’s like a morgue. There are no customers to accommodate. The only vehicles on the floor are all over $100k. Fifteen minutes to scare up someone’s on the parts desk, which looks more like a bank teller’s window. The only activity I see is where the service lanes are. Is the service department is now their main profit center? If so, they have a huge hunk of overhead to swallow. Are the technicians (don’t refer to them as mechanics) any good? I have no idea. The only cars I see being brought in for service look new. Probably still under warranty.
 
While having my oil changed, I asked them to look at my headlights. I felt that they were too low. The shop told me that they were actually too high and lowered them further.

Before I take it back to them to correct, I want to make sure that I’m not thinking about this wrong.

What are your opinions on the lights in the picture below?
The closer basketball is 26’2” away from my bumper and the farther basketball is 31’9” away.

These are my low lights. Surely they should go out farther than 27’?
It just feels dangerous when driving above 20mph.

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first, is that driveway you are parked on really level?


you put the target out at 25 feet.

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This is one of the things I laugh about most when people post up vehicles for sale and say "dealer serviced every 5k miles".

At what point is going to the dealer actually a detriment to buying a vehicle.
The irony is all the members of IH8MUD hate dealers and talk about dealer monkeys are trash

These same people when the buy their new rigs will post "perfect dealer service records every 5K" as you mentioned.

If you see their for sale ads, they will also write "dealer serviced every 5k."


Hypocrites - all of us.
 
first, is that driveway you are parked on really level?


you put the target out at 25 feet.

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No. To be honest, there is a slight slope to the driveway with the garage being probably two inches higher than where my LC is sitting.

And yeah, I now know the garage door/wall one is using to aim the lights should be 25’ away.
My picture of the basketballs was just to show that my headlights were pointed so downwards that they hardly made it to the 25ft mark. Much less only dropped the prescribed 2.5”.

And to follow up with my story: I took it back to the maintenance shop, Clear Choice Independent Lexus Specialists here in Houston, and they apologized and raised my lights 6inches.
Of course this still left them several feet too low on a wall 25’ away.
Happily they did show me how to adjust them myself. So I gave up on them trying to do it right and corrected the aim last night.
But it does beg the question on what my $17 for the alignment was for.

Follow up stupid question:
If my driveway has a slight pitch, should I aim the lights a bit lower or higher than 2.5” below the tape marks I put on my garage door?
 
No. To be honest, there is a slight slope to the driveway with the garage being probably two inches higher than where my LC is sitting.

And yeah, I now know the garage door/wall one is using to aim the lights should be 25’ away.
My picture of the basketballs was just to show that my headlights were pointed so downwards that they hardly made it to the 25ft mark. Much less only dropped the prescribed 2.5”.

And to follow up with my story: I took it back to the maintenance shop, Clear Choice Independent Lexus Specialists here in Houston, and they apologized and raised my lights 6inches.
Of course this still left them several feet too low on a wall 25’ away.
Happily they did show me how to adjust them myself. So I gave up on them trying to do it right and corrected the aim last night.
But it does beg the question on what my $17 for the alignment was for.

Follow up stupid question:
If my driveway has a slight pitch, should I aim the lights a bit lower or higher than 2.5” below the tape marks I put on my garage door?
To get accurate aiming, you'd want the wall to be close to perpendicular to what you're trying to measure. The easiest way would be to go somewhere off site to make this possible imo. Bring your tape measure, chalk, and tools to make it so.

You're going to be having a tough time getting this dialed in if you don't have clean measurements to start with. If you are really set on it, make adjustments at home and use your experience (drivers flashing lights, adequate road lighting, etc) to dictate future adjustments.
 
Yep. @Eric Sarjeant has written about it in the past.
@rherrco I think the finance dept's usually are what drives most of the profits iirc. I think the "car dealership guy" podcast had some info on this a while back. Basically insinuating dealerships are finance/service dept's that also happen to sell cars.
 
All of this is a big part of why oil changes are higher on my list of things not to let a shop do than some other stuff. You're less likely to get the competent tech, and the sheer number of changes over the life of the vehicle drastically increases the odds of finding the one guy that DGAF or was totally incompetent.

Look how many dealer-serviced rigs can't even get the splash shield bolts back into the right spots?

Right? The likelihood is especially bad as oil changes is where techs start (or fallout of) their careers in the trade. With the amount of turnover and lack of common sense these days...

IMO, I'd generally trust a higher end brand garage as these techs tend to be skilled tradesman later in their career. Even AHC has been around long enough now between the 100-series and 200-series generation that they'll generally do this easily.

What I'm getting at is just as I can take my LX570 to a Toyota dealership for common maintenance items for an LC or other models with a shared drivetrain, an LC can be taken to Lexus dealerships to. Sure, the rates will be higher, but the chances of a good service experience will be higher too.

Still the chances of DGAF are never zero.

So I do my own wrenching. Can't say I've never made a mistake but at that point I've got no one else to blame.
 
The whole thing pulls out as a unit (lid and holders together) just give the lid a little wiggle and pull strait up and it should unclip

Thank you very much. Looking forward to getting back and installing this. No more flying water bottles.
 
This is one of the things I laugh about most when people post up vehicles for sale and say "dealer serviced every 5k miles".

At what point is going to the dealer actually a detriment to buying a vehicle.
It already is for me. With some limited exceptions, any LC that’s been to a dealer that often has a high likelihood of something screwed up.
 
No. To be honest, there is a slight slope to the driveway with the garage being probably two inches higher than where my LC is sitting.

And yeah, I now know the garage door/wall one is using to aim the lights should be 25’ away.
My picture of the basketballs was just to show that my headlights were pointed so downwards that they hardly made it to the 25ft mark. Much less only dropped the prescribed 2.5”.
now that i think about it, i am not sure that it matters! as long as it is a constant slope....this shows flat vs 3 degree slope

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now that i think about it, i am not sure that it matters! as long as it is a constant slope....this shows flat vs 3 degree slope

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Yeah. That was my conclusion too.
But moreover, it’s not like we are working with lasers here. It’s all pretty imprecise. I think the general idea is that you want your beams to be close to horizontal but with a slight pitch downward.
 
Yeah. That was my conclusion too.
But moreover, it’s not like we are working with lasers here. It’s all pretty imprecise. I think the general idea is that you want your beams to be close to horizontal but with a slight pitch downward.
I actually consider this one of the few things that were better about 13-15 vs 16+ cruisers.. our little dial on the dash to adjust beam height on the fly is pretty awesome.

I understand why they made the change they did in 16, being “more” premium and the LEDs being so bright below their sharp cutoff means anyone driving the other direction from a 16+ with their dial set incorrectly is then legally blind.. but I’ve used my dial to make finer adjustments to suit conditions a number of times.

I’m rambling. I really like 13-21 cruiser headlights overall.
 

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