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mcgaskins said:
I have 2 questions about camping inside the 200 with the key fob inside the truck with you. If you have the key inside and the doors are locked, can someone walk up to it and unlock it by trying to open the handle because of the proximity of the key? This is on the 13+ of course because I don't think the earlier 200s had the comfort access or whatever it is in Toyota speak. Also I'm fairly confident there is no motion sensor inside the 200, but I wanted to verify there wasn't one that had to be turned off before sleeping inside. Several German cars I've owned in the past had the motion sensors that needed to be defeated with a very subtle and usually hidden button if you or your pets were going to be in the car after you locked it.
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I just went out and tested it, and it definitely senses that the key is inside the car.
AND...someone on the outside CANNOT open the door if you lock it with the FOB from the inside.

Two things proved this:
1)
-With FOB 1 in my pocket...I FOB 2 on the center console of the truck and closed the door.
-I then pressed the outside door lock button on the truck, and it refused to lock...because it sensed that FOB 2 was inside.
-BUT...if I pressed the lock button on FOB 1 in my pocket, it would happily lock FOB 2 inside the car.
-I then put FOB 1 that was in my pocket inside the house and out of range...and went back to attempt to open the truck door to see if it would activate the hand sensor with FOB 2 inside.

IT WOULD NOT.

I had to go and retrieve FOB 1 again...and then it unlocked as normal.

Next, I got in the truck with both fobs...locked the doors with the FOB...and asked my wife to then attempt to open the door from the outside. **It would NOT open for her, even though I was 2 feet away in the driver's seat...with both fobs in my hand.

So that answers that!

By the way... I have a 2008.
All US spec 200's have the same FOB lock/sensor feature.
 
Markuson said:
I just went out and tested it, and it definitely senses that the key is inside the car.
AND...someone on the outside CANNOT open the door if you lock it with the FOB from the inside.

Two things proved this:
1)
-With FOB 1 in my pocket...I FOB 2 on the center console of the truck and closed the door.
-I then pressed the outside door lock button on the truck, and it refused to lock...because it sensed that FOB 2 was inside.
-BUT...if I pressed the lock button on FOB 1 in my pocket, it would happily lock FOB 2 inside the car.
-I then put FOB 1 that was in my pocket inside the house and out of range...and went back to attempt to open the truck door to see if it would activate the hand sensor with FOB 2 inside.

IT WOULD NOT.

I had to go and retrieve FOB 1 again...and then it unlocked as normal.

Next, I got in the truck with both fobs...locked the doors with the FOB...and asked my wife to then attempt to open the door from the outside. **It would NOT open for her, even though I was 2 feet away in the driver's seat...with both fobs in my hand.

So that answers that!

By the way... I have a 2008.
All US spec 200's have the same FOB lock/sensor feature.
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Wow thanks for testing that out!! Now I feel really lazy :)
 
Markuson said:
I just went out and tested it, and it definitely senses that the key is inside the car.
AND...someone on the outside CANNOT open the door if you lock it with the FOB from the inside.

Two things proved this:
1)
-With FOB 1 in my pocket...I FOB 2 on the center console of the truck and closed the door.
-I then pressed the outside door lock button on the truck, and it refused to lock...because it sensed that FOB 2 was inside.
-BUT...if I pressed the lock button on FOB 1 in my pocket, it would happily lock FOB 2 inside the car.
-I then put FOB 1 that was in my pocket inside the house and out of range...and went back to attempt to open the truck door to see if it would activate the hand sensor with FOB 2 inside.

IT WOULD NOT.

I had to go and retrieve FOB 1 again...and then it unlocked as normal.

Next, I got in the truck with both fobs...locked the doors with the FOB...and asked my wife to then attempt to open the door from the outside. **It would NOT open for her, even though I was 2 feet away in the driver's seat...with both fobs in my hand.

So that answers that!

By the way... I have a 2008.
All US spec 200's have the same FOB lock/sensor feature.
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When I go whitewater kayaking, I don't want to take an electronic key with me, so I just pull the battery and lock the FOB in the car and take the removable key with me.

I know that techstream lets you change some of the sensitively in regards to the FOB, but IIRC, it has to do with where the FOB can be to start the car. Not sure if it had anything to do with locking the car.
 
Markuson said:
I just went out and tested it, and it definitely senses that the key is inside the car.
AND...someone on the outside CANNOT open the door if you lock it with the FOB from the inside.

Two things proved this:
1)
-With FOB 1 in my pocket...I FOB 2 on the center console of the truck and closed the door.
-I then pressed the outside door lock button on the truck, and it refused to lock...because it sensed that FOB 2 was inside.
-BUT...if I pressed the lock button on FOB 1 in my pocket, it would happily lock FOB 2 inside the car.
-I then put FOB 1 that was in my pocket inside the house and out of range...and went back to attempt to open the truck door to see if it would activate the hand sensor with FOB 2 inside.

IT WOULD NOT.

I had to go and retrieve FOB 1 again...and then it unlocked as normal.

Next, I got in the truck with both fobs...locked the doors with the FOB...and asked my wife to then attempt to open the door from the outside. **It would NOT open for her, even though I was 2 feet away in the driver's seat...with both fobs in my hand.

So that answers that!

By the way... I have a 2008.
All US spec 200's have the same FOB lock/sensor feature.
Click to expand...

Thanx for testing. I wouldn't have expected to be able to lock FOB 2 in truck, but doing it with FOB 1 make sense.

Once again, the Toyota engineers thought it all the way through. Impressive, as usual.
 
Can the side mirrors close automatically when the LC is shut off? Nothing in manual I can find.
 
I noticed the lower small body mount taillights above the bumper had bulbs. I thought they were just reflectors. If they are similar to the rear red fog lights on my previous Audis. how the heck do they turn on? With the front fog lamps? Maybe the bulbs are burned out.

NFC
 
TonyP said:
Drill out the circle part in the middle and RTV a socket in there with a bulb wired to the parking lights. Done and done.
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After spending all that time in the 80's section, I need to spend some quality time in the 200 section. I have been searching about a ac issue and can't locate the solution. The passenger side front blows ac much warmer than the drivers side when both sides are set to low. When manually putting on high fan, low cool the overall discharge temp goes up. I did turn off the economy setting in the climate setup and it did lower the discharge temp 3 degrees on high fan, low temp. Is there a heater core valve issue when ac is on like the 80's have.

My guess there's a blender door actuator somewhere under the dash hanging up like I had happen on my dual climate control on my company f150.
 
Markuson said:
I just went out and tested it, and it definitely senses that the key is inside the car.
AND...someone on the outside CANNOT open the door if you lock it with the FOB from the inside.

Two things proved this:
1)
-With FOB 1 in my pocket...I FOB 2 on the center console of the truck and closed the door.
-I then pressed the outside door lock button on the truck, and it refused to lock...because it sensed that FOB 2 was inside.
-BUT...if I pressed the lock button on FOB 1 in my pocket, it would happily lock FOB 2 inside the car.
-I then put FOB 1 that was in my pocket inside the house and out of range...and went back to attempt to open the truck door to see if it would activate the hand sensor with FOB 2 inside.

IT WOULD NOT.

I had to go and retrieve FOB 1 again...and then it unlocked as normal.

Next, I got in the truck with both fobs...locked the doors with the FOB...and asked my wife to then attempt to open the door from the outside. **It would NOT open for her, even though I was 2 feet away in the driver's seat...with both fobs in my hand.

So that answers that!

By the way... I have a 2008.
All US spec 200's have the same FOB lock/sensor feature.
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Very detailed testing, thank you. Did your wife let you out?
 
4gotalot said:
Very detailed testing, thank you. Did your wife let you out?
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I could get out just fine...but she couldn't get in...even though both FOBs were just the other side of the glass from her. :)

Hmmm... If she's ever chasing me with a rolling pin--I now know what to do! :princess: :hillbilly:
 
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Markuson said:
Hmmm... If she's ever chasing me with a rolling pin--I know know what to do! :princess: :hillbilly:
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Or golf club...

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mcgaskins said:
I have 2 questions about camping inside the 200 with the key fob inside the truck with you. If you have the key inside and the doors are locked, can someone walk up to it and unlock it by trying to open the handle because of the proximity of the key? This is on the 13+ of course because I don't think the earlier 200s had the comfort access or whatever it is in Toyota speak. Also I'm fairly confident there is no motion sensor inside the 200, but I wanted to verify there wasn't one that had to be turned off before sleeping inside. Several German cars I've owned in the past had the motion sensors that needed to be defeated with a very subtle and usually hidden button if you or your pets were going to be in the car after you locked it.
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The manual doesn't mention a motion sensor, just two proximity key radio antenna located in the center of the interior of the vehicle and several located at or near the outside doors

I can't answer the key question. I suspect not because otherwise anyone who walked up to your car while you were driving could unlock the door by simply pulling the handle from the outside. Carjackers special! I think for the doors to unlock the proximity system must detect the key outside the vehicle near the door. Now, if you put the key up against the inside of the door I don't know if it will mis-detect the location...
 
wfd175 said:
With glasses now and can see no bulb. Sure is deceiving Tricky DOT, well, there should be one there. On the Audis it was a nice way to have the tailgaters back off. Still figuring out the 200. There's a lot going on with these things.
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I hate that extra red light on the Audi. I didn't realize it only came on with the fog lights though. Since I know it's not a brake light, it wouldn't stop me from tailgating (though in my middle age I've relaxed and do that a lot less now). In fact I would think it's MORE likely to cause an accident since if you're following an Audi with that extra bright tail light in my experience you become desensitized to the bright light after a while, so if the vehicle suddenly applies their brakes you might not notice them as quickly.
 
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