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2013 LC. Will the radar cruise bring you to a complete stop? I have felt and heard the brakes engaging but not sure I want to field test!

2016 here, the radar cruise stops in the 20's, it gives me a warning of the exact speed but I can't remember, so it will stop doing anything related to radar cruise in the 20's.
 
good to know, thanks! Given that the 16 model got a refresh from the 13, can anyone verify if this would be the same on my 13?
 
What spare fuses do you all carry and where did you buy? What's the best assorted pack to pick up?
 
Groundhog Day :confused:
 
Look a page back. I answered before you deleted your post unless I'm a clairvoyant.

lol clairvoyant, yeah Tony, sorry on post fumble. Thanks. I've got stuff in a baggie, i just didn't know, given how meticulous you all are, if you guys had some neat pack etc.
 
lol clairvoyant, yeah Tony, sorry on post fumble. Thanks. I've got stuff in a baggie, i just didn't know, given how meticulous you all are, if you guys had some neat pack etc.

I bought the same fuse kit as @kevinfoutch and @Markuson. Since I wanted to keep the kit in my glove box, I selected 3 each of the 5, 7.5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30 fuses, added a small fuse tester/puller, and keep all the fuses in a re-purposed CF card holder:

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It all fits in a bag that goes in the glove box with various USB cables, spare headlamps (high beam), binoculars, etc.

Nothing really special, but convenient.

HTH
 
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2013 LC. Will the radar cruise bring you to a complete stop? I have felt and heard the brakes engaging but not sure I want to field test!

In Nov 2012 an article had this to say about the Toyota system:

Interestingly, the Pre-Collision System won't stop a vehicle. Instead, it slows cars by up to 38 miles per hour--that's because more than 90 percent of rear-end crashes happen when the difference in speed between front and back vehicles is within 38 miles per hour. So the system won't save drivers every time, but it will help in the majority of cases.

The system can also slow vehicles at high speeds. While similar systems--like Volvo's CitySafe--only work at low speeds, the Pre-Collision System won't. Instead, it helps slow cars at any speed.
 
It's also very intrusive so if it kicks in, you'll be aware of it and step on the brakes to compensate.

Honestly, I don't like the idea at all. When I'm cruising down the highway, it's not a pleasant thought to wonder if that system is going to suddenly slow me down without warning--which in itself might cause a startled reaction. I very much prefer to just dedicate myself to paying attention, as I feel confident my decision-making abilities in an emergency maneuver will outperform a little thingy on my grill that tends to be prone to "fiddliness..."

Ya, I know... Many swear by it...like it...find it helpful.

Some prefer stick shifts to automatic....some of us turn off our parking sensors...etc.

Different strokes and all that, but I'm glad I don't have it.

Front facing camera? -Wish I had that. :)
 
Honestly, I don't like the idea at all. When I'm cruising down the highway, it's not a pleasant thought to wonder if that system is going to suddenly slow me down without warning--which in itself might cause a startled reaction. I very much prefer to just dedicate myself to paying attention, as I feel confident my decision-making abilities in an emergency maneuver will outperform a little thingy on my grill that tends to be prone to "fiddliness..."

Ya, I know... Many swear by it...like it...find it helpful.

Some prefer stick shifts to automatic....some of us turn off our parking sensors...etc.

Different strokes and all that, but I'm glad I don't have it.

Front facing camera? -Wish I had that. :)

I was mostly referring to the actual collision avoidance. The radar cruise just tapers off the throttle. The collision avoidance actually applies the brakes.
 
I was mostly referring to the actual collision avoidance. The radar cruise just tapers off the throttle. The collision avoidance actually applies the brakes.

Right. That's what I'm referring to also. I don't want brakes being applied for me. I threw in that camera part in to acknowledge that there there ARE newer-than-my-08 tech items I DO like... ;)
 
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I have been on the hunt for over a month now for the perfect GX470 (ie: non-nav, low miles, low corrosion, clean), but my fruitless search has me thinking about other options. Now I'm convinced I need a 200-series instead. I've read everything I can about these trucks in this section, and the comments in here about how these things run and are built really got to me. I was very surprised to find the rated gas mileage is the same for the GX470 and the 200-series. I do not like the GX460s, mostly because of the 3rd row seat that is non-removable (without major work). I will never ever use it.

Cruisers are very rare around here, of all generations. I've only seen a few 200-series in passing. So I'm gonna have to ask my SQOD here, I'm glad this thread is here.

1: I'm wondering about the rust factor I've read on the infamous KDSS valve. Where is this valve? Why does it rust so badly, and what is the risk if it too rusty? Is this something you need to adjust occasionally?

2: How much rust on the underside is "too much"? I'm very familiar with rust and the problems, I've fixed more than a few frames. I realize it's subjective, but my choices here are very low, and only if I'm willing to travel to go take a test drive. The closest one for sale to me is almost 150 miles away! So, how does this one look:

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I have been on the hunt for over a month now for the perfect GX470 (ie: non-nav, low miles, low corrosion, clean), but my fruitless search has me thinking about other options. Now I'm convinced I need a 200-series instead. I've read everything I can about these trucks in this section, and the comments in here about how these things run and are built really got to me. I was very surprised to find the rated gas mileage is the same for the GX470 and the 200-series. I do not like the GX460s, mostly because of the 3rd row seat that is non-removable (without major work). I will never ever use it.

Cruisers are very rare around here, of all generations. I've only seen a few 200-series in passing. So I'm gonna have to ask my SQOD here, I'm glad this thread is here.

1: I'm wondering about the rust factor I've read on the infamous KDSS valve. Where is this valve? Why does it rust so badly, and what is the risk if it too rusty? Is this something you need to adjust occasionally?

2: How much rust on the underside is "too much"? I'm very familiar with rust and the problems, I've fixed more than a few frames. I realize it's subjective, but my choices here are very low, and only if I'm willing to travel to go take a test drive. The closest one for sale to me is almost 150 miles away! So, how does this one look:

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That doesn't look too bad.

On the other hand, SouthWest flights to non-rust-zone markets are cheap... If it were me, I'd do my hunting in a non-rust zone and make a trip once a great one is locked up and ready for final inspection in person. Worth the peace of mind to me...though I'm spoiled with the near-by LA market that has tons of dust-free (much less rust-free!) units for sale all the time.
 
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@Markuson thanks for the reply. BTW, many of your posts are what convinced me I need to look at these trucks very seriously, and now I'm obsessed. I am not new to Cruisers, I had an '88 FJ62 that I turned just about every bolt on, so I am well aware of the heritage and reliability.

It's very challenging to buy a truck from several states away. I have to rely that the salesperson is being truthful, I have to beg them to send me good photos, then if I'm interested they will only hold it for maybe 24 hours if I send them a deposit. I lost out on a sweet GX last week because I couldn't give them a date when I could come look at it, someone else swooped it up. Just yesterday I bought my wife a really clean IS250C that is 500 miles away, but only because my brother lives near there and checked it out for me. I had to have payment to them within 24 hours or the deal was off (I made it).

So I'm getting frustrated by this whole process.
 
If you have an iPad, I highly recommend an app called "AutoList."

AutoList lets you save particular searches with whatever highly-detailed list of price, year, etc. you're after, and then notifies you whenever vehicles are listed, price-dropped, etc. It also includes tons of photos most of the time, and tends to list mostly dealer-sold used. It also tells you exactly how long those vehicles have been listed, and often includes free car-fax report access. I have mine set to search the entire US, and have helped a number of people on Mud find their Cruiser. But the app is free and super helpful. I assume its available on other devices, but it's so handy on my iPad that I just use it there.

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I have highly refined searches with email auto-alerts configured on:

AutoList
AutoTrader
cars.com
carfax.com
ebay.com

Every morning I have a ritual that I do at 6:30 am, I check the emails, look at the trucks, sometimes send requests for more photos. I have a few prospects that I'm interested in. My schedule is too full now to be ready to hop a plane, but that will change soon. Meawhile I'm doing my homework here, hence my SQOD post.

Carfax: it's surprising to me how many of these trucks have accidents on their records. That's kinda a deal killer for me.
 
In Nov 2012 an article had this to say about the Toyota system:

Interestingly, the Pre-Collision System won't stop a vehicle. Instead, it slows cars by up to 38 miles per hour--that's because more than 90 percent of rear-end crashes happen when the difference in speed between front and back vehicles is within 38 miles per hour. So the system won't save drivers every time, but it will help in the majority of cases.

The system can also slow vehicles at high speeds. While similar systems--like Volvo's CitySafe--only work at low speeds, the Pre-Collision System won't. Instead, it helps slow cars at any speed.

The owner's manual of my '17 specifically states the pre-collision avoidance system will bring the vehicle to a complete stop. There are 3 levels of activation: warning, dire warning with some brakes, and slam on the brakes to stop right now. I use the off button whenever I remember. The manual also has several PAGES of instances where the system may apply the brakes unnecessarily or not apply them when needed. I don't want a Toyota software engineer deciding when I need to brake and how much. I also tow with my 200 and the manual states that using the system while towing is a no-no.
 

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