Has anyone purchased a reman motor from SOR? If so, would you do it again? I picked up a '72 with a blown (more like cooked) F motor and I'd like to keep the 3 speed / F motor original setup. The motor has already been rebuilt and is pretty much shot. Any other suggestions / options?
SOR Reman 1F Motor
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Are you doing a restoration? If not I would pick up a good used 2F and drop it in. It's mostly a bolt in operation. You can get a good 2F for $400-$800.
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Yes, it began as a get her cleaned up and running and has now progressed to a complete frame off. Just reluctant to go 2F, 4 speed since I'm pretty much replacing every part on the vehicle to bring it back as close to original as possible. Going 2F would mean having to get a 4spd as well correct?
And where can i find a 2F for that money? i'm looking at $2300 plus freight for the reman 1F from SOR.
Thanks.
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If $ is not an option then buy a reman 1F from somewhere like SOR or MAF (if they have them).
If you want to save a few bucks then look around on MUD for a good, used 1F or 2F. 2Fs are better (oiling, etc) but if you want to stay stock then stay stock.
If you want to save a few bucks then look around on MUD for a good, used 1F or 2F. 2Fs are better (oiling, etc) but if you want to stay stock then stay stock.
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You can still use the 3sp tranny and clutch with the 2F. It just bolts right up.
For a good used 2F, start in the ForSale/Wanted section here on MUD. I found a 1976 2F with a 4 sp tranny and t-case for $500. Try to find a later model 2F from say an FJ60. You will get the built in power steering mount on the block should you wish to add power steering later. Plus it will have fewer miles on it...
For a good used 2F, start in the ForSale/Wanted section here on MUD. I found a 1976 2F with a 4 sp tranny and t-case for $500. Try to find a later model 2F from say an FJ60. You will get the built in power steering mount on the block should you wish to add power steering later. Plus it will have fewer miles on it...
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Thanks for the info! I've had it in my head (not sure why) the 3spd would not match up with the 2F. For that kind of money, I will look around for one. BUT, then i have the rebuild costs added on so I'm probably back at the 2-3k range anyway? I live slightly north of North Cuba so freight is always an issue for me.
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You only have the rebuild cost if you plan on rebuilding it. You can get a GOOD running 2F for the money I posted. If you are set on a true restoration and must have a rebuilt engine then by all means get the reman F. Other wise get the 2F and freshen it up with new paint/chrome/powdercoat and drop it in. Run it for a few years then rebuild it.
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Search the Sale Parts section - there are probably a few floating around right now.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard someone say that you could dress up a 2F to look like an F, or F155 (this is what you had in your '72...correct...an F155?)
Might take a bit of work by changing a valve cover, and running the old air filter assembly and stuff, but would make the truck "look right" when you open the hood
If the F in your 40 is the original engine to this truck, then save it, and try to get her rebuilt properly later on when you have time...at least you'll have it on hand if all that is missing is this engine to be truly 100% original.
Good luck...and post up some pics when you have them
Might take a bit of work by changing a valve cover, and running the old air filter assembly and stuff, but would make the truck "look right" when you open the hood
If the F in your 40 is the original engine to this truck, then save it, and try to get her rebuilt properly later on when you have time...at least you'll have it on hand if all that is missing is this engine to be truly 100% original.
Good luck...and post up some pics when you have them
Blown or cooked? North Cuba? THE Cuba? Or Florida? I think first I'd drop the pan on your F, see just what happened...probably pull the head too. Maybe alls you need is bearings, maybe rings....Be a lot cheaper shipping bearings and rings and gaskets than a block. You could probably do a quick refresh (as opposed to a full rebuild) locally, Wherever that is, pretty quick and fairly cheap. And get a few more years out of your original block.
Personally, I would do a 2F block...but if shipping and originality are a concern, it may be worth taking a look.
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I had a good friend of mine who owns a shop locally go through the motor and it's blown. A couple of the pistons look like somebody took a torch to them, he said it has been bored more than once most likely, bla bla bla - prognosis grim at best, better to find a reman according to him.
Oh, and i'm in Florida, I commonly refer to my location as just north of north cuba. Been to Lauderdale or heaven forbid Miami lately?
OragngeFJ45 has/had a rebuilt F135 or F155 sitting in his shop.
Send him a PM.
Send him a PM.
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if your buddy owns a shop see if he will cut you some deals and just find a used block cheap.
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I PM'ed him. Thanks!
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I dont see why not
I bolted the 3 speed bellhousing and finger style clutch stuff up to my 79 2F in my 71 40 before going with the diaphragm style clutch and a 4 speed
I cut the transmission spline off the 3 speed and used it for my clutch alignment tool so I know that fits in the 2f
so I'd say yes the 3 speed should bolt right up and you can use a diaphragm style or finger style clutch system
if you get the 2f try and get everything you can with it ----radiator and fan shroud if poss too
but get the ALT, Power Steering Pump, Clutch slave cylinder, air cleaner, coil and ignition module, water pump
All those pieces add up $$
Good luck
I bolted the 3 speed bellhousing and finger style clutch stuff up to my 79 2F in my 71 40 before going with the diaphragm style clutch and a 4 speed
I cut the transmission spline off the 3 speed and used it for my clutch alignment tool so I know that fits in the 2f
so I'd say yes the 3 speed should bolt right up and you can use a diaphragm style or finger style clutch system
if you get the 2f try and get everything you can with it ----radiator and fan shroud if poss too
but get the ALT, Power Steering Pump, Clutch slave cylinder, air cleaner, coil and ignition module, water pump
All those pieces add up $$
Good luck
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Yes, absolutely. All you need is a 2F long block. Then you can bolt on all the early accesories (iron waterpump, metal fan, manifolds, carb, fuel pump, points distributor, tin valve cover, canister air cleaner...) and have the bigger cubes, higher compression and improved oiling of the 2F engine, with the stock F appearance.
power steering
Are you really wanting to keep it stock looking under the hood?
Just wondering if that is a firm goal? Or would you rather drop in a running engine and drivetrain?
Are you looking at power steering? If you go that route I think that's when you might need the later double pulley and later water pump (for the pulley to mate to) and then have to mod the rad mount holes a little to move it forward (no big deal) and/or modify the shroud or get a 2f fan shroud
Possibly might also need or want to move the alt to rh mount. But dont take all that as gospel--any experts want to chime in on minimum work to add power steering to the 1 + 2F combo?
In the beginning I didnt know a thing about FJs and I was just going to do a little spruce up and drive it. The more I learned on mud, the more I changed plans and wound up doing a frame off and a 2f and drivetrain swap so things can change depending on the level of info you are starting with. The more things change the more it costs too
Just food for thought
Are you really wanting to keep it stock looking under the hood?
Just wondering if that is a firm goal? Or would you rather drop in a running engine and drivetrain?
Are you looking at power steering? If you go that route I think that's when you might need the later double pulley and later water pump (for the pulley to mate to) and then have to mod the rad mount holes a little to move it forward (no big deal) and/or modify the shroud or get a 2f fan shroud
Possibly might also need or want to move the alt to rh mount. But dont take all that as gospel--any experts want to chime in on minimum work to add power steering to the 1 + 2F combo?
In the beginning I didnt know a thing about FJs and I was just going to do a little spruce up and drive it. The more I learned on mud, the more I changed plans and wound up doing a frame off and a 2f and drivetrain swap so things can change depending on the level of info you are starting with. The more things change the more it costs too
Just food for thought
