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once the again the only time i gave attitude to any one was when i was told what i should be allowed to own and drive and what my own skills are and i think anyone would be the same if someone said you dont deserve to own that or you dont have enough skills to do a job
 
Anybody remember that thread...not too long ago...about some kid asking an Acura board how to make his fast car even faster? And then that same kid goes out and flies his fast car off the road into a tree? and kills himself and 3 friends? Did the guys who posted on that board feel kinda responsible for those deaths?
That's what I was thinking about when I posted the "step away" thing...
 
You can do any thing you want, this is still America. Start up a build thread so we can follow your progress and good luck. You may gather more respect if you start using better grammar and separating your thoughts with periods. Just a suggestion, of course.
 
You can do any thing you want, this is still America. Start up a build thread so we can follow your progress and good luck. You may gather more respect if you start using better grammar and separating your thoughts with periods. Just a suggestion, of course.

Yes, THIS is America, but he lives in Canada. Not sure of what's permitted up there.

X2 on the build thread. Good luck whichever way you go. :cheers:
 
Cruiser_King, You seem to have made up your mind that you want to be SOA. While I have no doubt you can SOA your truck for $1500 please consider the following. From my personal experience I found the SOA mod creates a ripple effect that perhaps you have not thought about.

The big lift means you will want larger tires to fill those huge spaces in your now empty funny looking wheel wells.

Those big tires are going to require some type of gearing in the diffs or tranny if you want back your crawl speed. I went with a Toybox, not cheap.

Those big tires are going to break stocks birfs if you wheel the truck very hard. Bobby Long has the answer for Toyota axles but the cost almost eats up your entire SOA budget. Trust me, no one wants to sit behind your built SOA trail rig while you change out the stock birf because you could not afford a set of Longs.

You will want some lockers so you are not spinning your wheels in your now much more capable SOA rig. Lots of options here to save money. Weld the rear for almost free.

Build a bomb proof traction bar. If it breaks you get to buy a new gear set you were not planning on, or worse.

While you can SOA your truck for $1500 I doubt it will be where you want it to be as a wheeler. If you just want to drive it on the street, no problem it will do that great. You stated you wanted to wheel the truck. If you put that $ into a used 4" lift, some used tires, power steering, and lock it front and rear you will have a pretty capable fun 40 to drive on the road and the trail.

People are trying to help you here. Many on this board have more than 16 years experience working with these trucks. I thought I knew everything at 16 also and won't hold that against you. If you choose not to listen or ignore their advice that is up to you. It is your truck and you may do whatever you like with it.

Just my .02 :steer:
 
Maybe he is texting his posts on MUD. They read like text messages. =)
 
Seriously, digest your mods one at a time. You have nothing to loose by doing power steering first. Once you realize that that alone will set you back $750-$1000, you will realize where all the contrary advice is coming from.

Um 750-1000? I think it costed me something like 100-200tops
 
Oh and screw SOA and POS lift springs, run the stock springs SUA flipped try to stretch it out to 100” lock the axles and make 37's fit. It will be far superior.

WHEN you can afford it skip on the middle baby steps and link the truck.
 
Um 750-1000? I think it costed me something like 100-200tops


4x4 Labs plate and frame plates $150
Rebuilt Saginaw box $250
Pittman arm $75
Steering shaft $150 (mine was $185)
HD tie rod/drag link $150
Firewall bearing $25
Welding $200


The more you do yourself and the more junk yard parts you use, the cheaper it gets. You get to choose if you want it right or cheap. More difficult to do right and cheap, though if you were a good pick n pull hunter you could do it for way less. The point is, it adds up fast and most underestimate what's involved.
 
I have a 72 40 with over 9 inches of lift, sua. You dont have to go soa to go big. and weld that rear diff, cheap and aggressive. next go with some boneyard ps, and drop a cheapo sbc with some nice motor mounts, and youll be crawling. Then save up some more, and go with longs, front arb, and some cosmos. No one will touch it out there
 
Cruiser-king -- Let me ask you this

Why do you want SOA? What need does this mod solve for you?

I think what people are suggesting is that SOA alone won't solve everything. In fact, it may not be the best answer for your question.

As stated, a lot of us here have gone through many mods, and have found what helps, and what doesn't.

Some of us are suggesting that if you were to present the question a different way, you would get a different answer. Alot of us mod our cruiser based on budget limitations, rather than modification desire. So, rather than saying "I want to do SOA", I would say "I have $1500, what's the best way to spend it on my cruiser".

SOA answers the problem of needing more lift. But why do you need more lift? It's either for clearance of bigger tires, or ground clearance at the frame. Which is your issue? Do you existing tires rub? If not, you can gain immediate clearance by just going bigger on the tires. Once your tires are bigger, you'll find that Power Steering will make you life much easier.

There are many out there than ran for years with SUA and either 2 or 4" lifts, with PS, and maybe a shackle reversal. SOAs became more common as tires went above 35's. There are people out there running SUA and 37's.

As mentioned elsewhere, lockers will do more to getting you places than SOA.

For $1500 you could pick up a "lunch box" locker, new or used tires, new or used 4" lift kit, and probably fab up power steering, and be happy for a while as you build your skills. You should also seriously consider a front cage and spreader bars for your existing factory hoop. Or pick up a kit from Metal Tech, or anyone else.

Good luck, and keep us updated
 
I have a 72 40 with over 9 inches of lift, sua. You dont have to go soa to go big. and weld that rear diff, cheap and aggressive. next go with some boneyard ps, and drop a cheapo sbc with some nice motor mounts, and youll be crawling. Then save up some more, and go with longs, front arb, and some cosmos. No one will touch it out there

I call Bull s***. 9 inches SUA? how?
 
Not sure if you guys missed this post.....

(I added comma's, and periods for the grumpy fockers:flipoff2:)


hahah thanxs man. I took a deeper look into a SUA set up, and found what i was looking for with less money and more ease. I just ordered aussie locker for the rear, and im building my own power steering set up.thanxs for everyones advice
 
Ive got 4 1/2 suspension springs, shackles,shakle reversal, and body lift, so bull that, and im running 36's with smallo rear fender well trim and no rub, thinking of going with 38's actually.
 
It can be done...4-5" springs, lift shackles, body lift.

I wouldn't do it, but it's within the realm of possibilities.

Let's say 5" of spring lift (alcans? Don't know of any others). I wouldn't consider body lift "lift", but maybe 2" max?

To get 2" of lift via shackle, you would have to run 4" longer shackles. Homemade?

Actual lift of frame (which is all that really matters) would be 7".. I don't think anyone would try to get 4" of lift via shackles. Pinion angle would be ugly at best.
 
Ive got 4 1/2 suspension springs, shackles,shakle reversal, and body lift, so bull that, and im running 36's with smallo rear fender well trim and no rub, thinking of going with 38's actually.

how long are your shackles? Are you running the LCAH rockfinders up front?

I need pics ;)
 
I DID miss that post. He somehow snuck that in without me noticing....





Not sure if you guys missed this post.....

(I added comma's, and periods for the grumpy fockers:flipoff2:)
 

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