So I think the Michelin Defender is the perfect all-terrain tire... (For most of us) (2 Viewers)

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I wanted to talk about function over form and my opinions on why I think the Michelin Defender LTX is one of the best "all-terrain" tires out these for a majority of 4wd enthusiast/Overlanders...

Before I begin let me cite a few sources on why I have these opinions.

Sources/References
- My use (I have over 10k miles on the Defenders and have wheeled them in different terrain, I will touch on below.)
- Perfect off-highway tire = LTX? What? - https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/perfect-off-highway-tire-ltx-what.206567/ - (This is the thread that really turned me onto this)
- 400,000 Miles - https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/400-000-miles.404359/ (Another great thread on real world use)
- Watch any Deadliest roads video from this channel - https://www.youtube.com/@FreeDocumentary


The Michelin Defender LTX
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Pictured above is my 2011 LX570 and about a year ago I ditched my Falken Wildpeaks (due to them being way to heavy and generating too much road noise) and set out to find the lightest wheel and tire setup for my 200 series.

I came across the Michelin Defender LTX M/S which came in a tad under 54lbs a tire 285/70/17 (32.8 inches) (E load)

My first thought was "ew street tires" but then I remembered my friend ran these on his 2wd 3rd Gen 4Runner
He took that truck everywhere and never got stuck plus riding in the truck was a dream.

I then stumbled upon the links above and here we are today. I have logged about 10k miles on these tires and have taken them all over California in rain, snow, rocks, dirt, sand, and even some mud. They ride quiet, balance easily, wear slowly, and most importantly have tackled pretty much everything I have threw at them. From trails all over the Eastern Sierras to Anza Borrego these were slid against rocks, in deep soft sand, and driven on rain, ice, and snow. I have aired them down to as low as 12 PSI and never had an issue. When aired down they do burp occasionally. I should note I did gash the sidewall on Little John Bull in Big Bear, CA. The tire still held air though the cords were showing. I drove it back home and swapped in my spare. We do not know if I hit a steel fence post that feel or if it was a rock...

Sure they look plain and boring but the performance you get from them especially TO the trail is well worth it. I spend most of my time on the highway driving to and from work and driving to and from the destinations we all enjoy. I would assume most of us also spend lots of time on the highway which driving to the places we love to explore which is why I think these are the perfect all-terrain tires. With the amount of time we spend of the highway we should consider it a terrain as well.

These tires will get you to your destination smoothly and truly quietly and are also tough enough to hit the trails and get you back home. Now, I doubt these tires will do great in deep mud... but any tire sucks in mud, even mud-terrains. In my opinion these tires are perfect tire for what most of us use our vehicles for, Weekend trips with the occasional backcountry discovery route here and there.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is any place for a true all-terrain tire I am just saying choose the tire that suits what you do or plan to do.

Obviously these Defenders are not for everyone, those who rock-crawl and hit deep mud bogs often will need an aggressive tire to suit their needs, but I think for the casual Overlander you will be pleasantly surprised by these tires.

TL;DR

The Michelin Defender LTX is a fantastic all terrain tire that performs well in most situations with the exceptions of deep mud and hardcore rock crawling. This tire will get you to your destination quietly and smoothly and is tough enough to take you back home. Do not underestimate it looks.

Pros
- Excellent tread wear and tread life
- Smooth and quiet on the highway and off-road
- Light
- Extremely durable for a "street tire"

Cons
- Limited sizing, best to be had in an 18 inch as it can go up to a 34 inch size
- High cost of entry compared to other tires, even all-terrains
- Does not look cool for your cars and coffee events
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Bottom 2 are photos from the 400,000 mile Taco thread

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Are they able to tow? My LC200 that will eventually have a winch and hybrid bumper and sliders. I tow a hybrid camper with dry weight of about 3500 pounds and 400 pound tongue weight.
 
I 100% agree with the starting post. Sleeper tire of the century.

Are they able to tow?

Absolutely. They’ll do anything (except for mud) any other tire in a given load rating will.. and being Michelin I’d argue they will probably do it better over the long term.
 
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Are they able to tow? My LC200 that will eventually have a winch and hybrid bumper and sliders. I tow a hybrid camper with dry weight of about 3500 pounds and 400 pound tongue weight.
For sure. Almost all the 70k miles on my LC are towing something, including a 3.5k lb camper. I’ve run Defenders exclusively.
 
Agreed. Makes me think - are you man enough to run Michelin LTXs?

Going to have some deep thoughts with myself to justify why I need anything more.

There is also the Michelin LTX A/T2 variant that seemingly has many of the LTX qualities while being just a hair more aggressive.

 
There is also the Michelin LTX A/T2 variant that seemingly has many of the LTX qualities while being just a hair more aggressive.

I was very interested in this model but it’s apparently too new for wide sizing availability. That will be addressed over time, I’m sure. But for now I’m extremely happy with my LTXs
 
Are you running LTs or just the P rated Defender?
 
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I am also running defenders 285 60 18 on a 13 lx 570. Great quiet tires. I have had them for about 8k miles.
 
I did see that they discod the 285/65R18. I really wish they would do larger XL/P-Metric sizes as well.
 
I’ll be putting 295/70R18 on soon, can’t wait!

That should be a great size! Probably will be the best at keeping somewhat close to stock MPG as 35s.
 
I was very interested in this model but it’s apparently too new for wide sizing availability. That will be addressed over time, I’m sure. But for now I’m extremely happy with my LTXs
Do you have a link to what you would consider to be the model that works the best? Right now I have Toyo AT and I believe they are 285/65/18…they are on stock 2018 LC200 wheels.
 
Agreed. Makes me think - are you man enough to run Michelin LTXs?

Going to have some deep thoughts with myself to justify why I need anything more.

There is also the Michelin LTX A/T2 variant that seemingly has many of the LTX qualities while being just a hair more aggressive.

So I was considering the LTX A/T2 but I heard mixed reviews about the tread lugs falling or chunking off early.

I’d really like to try the Michelin Trail that’s on newer tundras, and will be on new Tacoma’s and the LC250 but right now the only width available is a small 265
 
So I was considering the LTX A/T2 but I heard mixed reviews about the tread lugs falling or chunking off early.

I’d really like to try the Michelin Trail that’s on newer tundras, and will be on new Tacoma’s and the LC250 but right now the only width available is a small 265
A/T2 is really old!! Not worth it. Old tire rubber compound. Noisy and not great at all off-road. Not any tougher than Defender…maybe weaker.

Trail is fine but very poor wear rating. You will be lucky to get 30k miles out of them. In read that they don’t do well in snow weather either.
 
A/T2 is really old!! Not worth it. Old tire rubber compound. Noisy and not great at all off-road. Not any tougher than Defender…maybe weaker.

Trail is fine but very poor wear rating. You will be lucky to get 30k miles out of them. In read that they don’t do well in snow weather either.
Well that’s a bummer the Trail looks good too! I know Michelin just released the Defender LTX 2, looks a tad more aggressive, I’ll give them a try 70k miles from now haha
 
I also shortened this post for Mud, if you wanted to read the full post which includes a small tirade on the excess of overlanding you can read it here…

 
I did not go with the 2 because the tread is not good for snow. It looks better but function is more important to me than looks when we talk snow.
Bing noisier doesn't get more points either.
Happy with Defenders LT comming from passenger tire. The only thing that isn't better is a bit more noise on some particular highway surfaces. Everything else is better - shocking, I know.
 
I did not go with the 2 because the tread is not good for snow. It looks better but function is more important to me than looks when we talk snow.
Bing noisier doesn't get more points either.
Happy with Defenders LT comming from passenger tire. The only thing that isn't better is a bit more noise on some particular highway surfaces. Everything else is better - shocking, I know.
Wait so the Defender 2 is worst in noise??
 

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