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I cant afford both shocks & springs, so I have been thinking of getting a full set of 30mm coil spacers, and replacement shocks. then hopefully Sooner than Later I can get a set of OME springs to compliment them.

However I am on a real tight budget and Im not sure which shocks out there I would need. As im sure the 30mm spacers wont give much lift (over what it would have been off the showroom floor) and I dont want to get new shocks again when I do buy my springs.
 
I would call CDan and/or beno up and get a set of factory shocks. I am sure they can handle the 30mm spacers. Other can confirm. But in my research, the OEM units are the most budget friendly while still maintaining a high level of quality.
 
Edelbrock IAS shocks may fit your bill too.
 
What size lift would you eventually get? I went from OME (for my 2.5" lift) to Procomp ES9000s for 4.5" lift, (way too soft) then back to OME L's. OME are 2X the price of Procomps but worth it in my opinion. The Procomps are very affordable, but for my rigs setup, there was too much lean in the corners. I prefer a firmer ride. My $.02 worth.
 
There are some nice budget shocks that can be found. I wouldn't personally go the OEM route if you're planning on lifting it, they're nice shocks but just too short for a lift.

I'm happy with my Pro Comp's, and they've held up nicely after 3 years now.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/303737-pro-comp-es9000-shock-information-specs.html

Not true.

Same length as the bilsteins that are rated for a 2 inch lift.

The monroes and gabriels are also the same length
 
Also, OEM Tokicos are under 100 for all four.

My favorites are the bilsteins, but they are closer to 300 for the set
 
Not true.

Same length as the bilsteins that are rated for a 2 inch lift.

The monroes and gabriels are also the same length

Just because they're the same length that's "rated" for a 2 inch lift doesn't mean that they're the ideal length.

You can use them, and I've seen people do so, but they get rather poor flex. Even seen people use 1" spacers to extend them, still doesn't flex very well.

There's no real reason not to go with a longer shock. Heck, the OME L's (or similar length) will fit under a stock height truck.

Why cut yourself short in the land of plenty>
 
What size lift would you eventually get? I went from OME (for my 2.5" lift) to Procomp ES9000s for 4.5" lift, (way too soft) then back to OME L's. OME are 2X the price of Procomps but worth it in my opinion. The Procomps are very affordable, but for my rigs setup, there was too much lean in the corners. I prefer a firmer ride. My $.02 worth.

I wont go any bigger than 2.5" on the suspension lift. It will be easier to buy shocks right now, and coil spacers, and then maybe this time next year I can buy springs... or if I find a stellar deal on a used set i can just slap them in.

$300 wouldnt be bad if they last and perform 3x better than the OEM.
 
Just an FYI, there is no reason to replace your shocks now for the ones that will work with a 2.5'lift. The 30mm spacers will only put your 80 back to stock ride height, maybe less, there is that much sag in your springs. I would just save up and get them at the same time, no need to start wearing your new shocks out before you lift.
If you are just itching to start bolting crap to your 80, which I totally get, get the springs now and use your current shocks. You will not get the full benefit of the new articulation with the stock length shocks, but at least you wont have wasted money on the coil spacers. :steer:
 
Wasted money on coil spacers?? $70 for 1" of lift isnt money wasted if you ask me.

Anyhow, I wish I could get springs right now, but my budget is about $500-$600 and I need to do a complete front axle rebuild, all 4 brakes (hopefully wont need new rotors). I am hoping I can squeeze some new shocks into the budget... but a full set of lift springs is going to be out of the question.
 
Just because they're the same length that's "rated" for a 2 inch lift doesn't mean that they're the ideal length.

You can use them, and I've seen people do so, but they get rather poor flex. Even seen people use 1" spacers to extend them, still doesn't flex very well.

There's no real reason not to go with a longer shock. Heck, the OME L's (or similar length) will fit under a stock height truck.

Why cut yourself short in the land of plenty>

True, and point well taken--I have wheeled for years with the bilstein and tokico shocks and haven't felt limited at all. If you go bigger than the 2.5 inch lift, then you should absolutely go with different shocks, but the limitation from the factory shocks at the 2.5 inch level with the rest of the suspension components stock is negligible IMO.
 
I have wheeled for years with the bilstein and tokico shocks and haven't felt limited at all.

People wheel FJC's and 100/200's, and don't feel limited. Doesn't mean they don't wheel like a board though. (In fact a club member of mine flopped his FJC due to the lack of flex.)

Once you get long travel shocks, you'll never go back. You don't see people running 12"+ travel shocks, then deciding they liked 10" travel shocks better. It's even worse than tire size.... ;)

If you go bigger than the 2.5 inch lift, then you should absolutely go with different shocks, but the limitation from the factory shocks at the 2.5 inch level with the rest of the suspension components stock is negligible IMO.

You can wheel just fine with them, there's no question about that. But you'll be lifting tires a lot more. I've been on a couple runs with 80's with OEM length shocks and a 2.5" lift, and I could watch them lift one or two tires where I'd drive the exact same line and not lift one (and I had much shorter shocks back then than I do now).

The limiting factor in this case is the shock length. Literally nothing else will limit you (at least not for the ranges we're talking about). The bushings will happily flex (okay, maybe they're not happy about it), the arms are plenty long enough, the springs might come loose (easily solved with some zip ties or wire)....there's nothing stopping you from running a 14" travel shock or even longer (droop wise, compressed length is another issue). I've lifted 2 tires off the ground (one front one rear), and that's running 12.5" (front) and 14" (rear) travel shocks, so just a bit longer than OEM length....the axle would have keep dropping even further.

And keep in mind that since the axle travels in an arc, each inch of droop isn't one for one to each inch of travel on the shock. In other words, 1" additional travel in the shock gives you more than 1" additional droop. So a 12" travel shock over a 10" travel shock doesn't sound like much....until you realize that it gives you a bunch more axle travel than 2".

Now, all that being said once the springs are loose in the buckets, and additional droop is not nearly the help that it is if they're not (at that point you lose the majority of your traction). But it will still help with the teeter-totter problem (which is how my friend flopped his FJC).
 
No argument from me on most of this--juice just isn't worth the squeeze for me currently. The one exception is that the stock front control arms limit the front end more that than the shocks when running with the sway bar attached. If getting more travel out of the front end was as simple as new shocks and bumpstops, I would be all over it. I really like how my rig drives on road, so I am leaving it alone for now and dealing with the stiff front end--still way more travel than an FJC though:hillbilly:


To the other poster, OEM shocks are ~100 dollars for the set of 4 from CruiserDan or Beno

People wheel FJC's and 100/200's, and don't feel limited. Doesn't mean they don't wheel like a board though. (In fact a club member of mine flopped his FJC due to the lack of flex.)

Once you get long travel shocks, you'll never go back. You don't see people running 12"+ travel shocks, then deciding they liked 10" travel shocks better. It's even worse than tire size.... ;)



You can wheel just fine with them, there's no question about that. But you'll be lifting tires a lot more. I've been on a couple runs with 80's with OEM length shocks and a 2.5" lift, and I could watch them lift one or two tires where I'd drive the exact same line and not lift one (and I had much shorter shocks back then than I do now).

The limiting factor in this case is the shock length. Literally nothing else will limit you (at least not for the ranges we're talking about). The bushings will happily flex (okay, maybe they're not happy about it), the arms are plenty long enough, the springs might come loose (easily solved with some zip ties or wire)....there's nothing stopping you from running a 14" travel shock or even longer (droop wise, compressed length is another issue). I've lifted 2 tires off the ground (one front one rear), and that's running 12.5" (front) and 14" (rear) travel shocks, so just a bit longer than OEM length....the axle would have keep dropping even further.

And keep in mind that since the axle travels in an arc, each inch of droop isn't one for one to each inch of travel on the shock. In other words, 1" additional travel in the shock gives you more than 1" additional droop. So a 12" travel shock over a 10" travel shock doesn't sound like much....until you realize that it gives you a bunch more axle travel than 2".

Now, all that being said once the springs are loose in the buckets, and additional droop is not nearly the help that it is if they're not (at that point you lose the majority of your traction). But it will still help with the teeter-totter problem (which is how my friend flopped his FJC).
 

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