Rivian R1S vs LC thoughts?

Would you trade in your Land Cruiser for a Rivian R1S/R1T?


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It does indeed lack a trip ODO which seems like a silly oversight but they did mention that it'll likely be added with a software update.
 
I don’t know why anyone would expect anything different for towing results. For one, it’s about what was expected, did better than I thought considering the low temps, high weight and up I-70. Secondly, electric vehicles are not for towing (at least not yet!). I tow a trailer up that same stretch of I-70 about 25 times a year, I don’t plan on doing it with an EV.

It’s all about your expectations. The Rivian is a fast luxury suv with a lot of tricks and it checks a lot of boxes to make it a great vehicle. But it’s not for towing, it’s not gonna off-road like a LC either.

That’s why I’m getting a Rivian, and I have no plans to get rid of my 200. They are completely different vehicles.
 
Electric cars being so quiet is a good analogy for all the fanboys right now.
 
Electric cars being so quiet is a good analogy for all the fanboys right now.
And comments like "fanboy" is probably why you're not getting much engagement and frankly why the internet sucks. Most folks on here own an LC, or something similar, and many of us own EVs as well... would be happy to engage with reasonable folks. Fanboy my hole.
 
I don’t know why anyone would expect anything different for towing results. For one, it’s about what was expected, did better than I thought considering the low temps, high weight and up I-70. Secondly, electric vehicles are not for towing (at least not yet!). I tow a trailer up that same stretch of I-70 about 25 times a year, I don’t plan on doing it with an EV.

It’s all about your expectations. The Rivian is a fast luxury suv with a lot of tricks and it checks a lot of boxes to make it a great vehicle. But it’s not for towing, it’s not gonna off-road like a LC either.

That’s why I’m getting a Rivian, and I have no plans to get rid of my 200. They are completely different vehicles.
In this thread and others we’ve got a significant proportion of posters advocating for the rivian as a replacement for their LC 200 and it’s the basis of the thread you just posted in.
 
And comments like "fanboy" is probably why you're not getting much engagement and frankly why the internet sucks. Most folks on here own an LC, or something similar, and many of us own EVs as well... would be happy to engage with reasonable folks. Fanboy my hole.
I wouldn’t be offended by the term fanboy, I read it as a friendly jab.
 
I don’t know why anyone would expect anything different for towing results. For one, it’s about what was expected, did better than I thought considering the low temps, high weight and up I-70. Secondly, electric vehicles are not for towing (at least not yet!). I tow a trailer up that same stretch of I-70 about 25 times a year, I don’t plan on doing it with an EV.

It’s all about your expectations. The Rivian is a fast luxury suv with a lot of tricks and it checks a lot of boxes to make it a great vehicle. But it’s not for towing, it’s not gonna off-road like a LC either.

That’s why I’m getting a Rivian, and I have no plans to get rid of my 200. They are completely different vehicles.

I get it but i just dont see why they chose to make a truck? Seems way more applicable as the SUV. Its a pretty weak truck and just screams tech bro. I cant imagine actual truck people to opt for this. Only fanbois. LOL
 
Electric cars being so quiet is a good analogy for all the fanboys right now.

The noise it does make is also extra dumb. White noise or what they were going for i have no clue. Its nails on chalkboardish.
 
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And comments like "fanboy" is probably why you're not getting much engagement and frankly why the internet sucks. Most folks on here own an LC, or something similar, and many of us own EVs as well... would be happy to engage with reasonable folks. Fanboy my hole.

LOL but the internet is the official home of the fanboy.
 
And comments like "fanboy" is probably why you're not getting much engagement and frankly why the internet sucks. Most folks on here own an LC, or something similar, and many of us own EVs as well... would be happy to engage with reasonable folks. Fanboy my hole.

Sensitive much? You engaged immediately. Thanks.

If you don’t think EV fanboys exist you have a bit to learn about the internet and beyond. I never called anyone here a fanboy, nor does owning an EV make a person one. @DenverLX post immediately above mine is a great example of a well thought out strategy to EV and rivian ownership.

But you must admit there are a few people that had expectations that were a bit too high..
 
The noise it does make is also extra dumb. White noise or what they were going for i have no clue.

There was talk a few years back about making it mandatory for electric vehicles to be required to have some sort of audible noise, this was in order for blind pedestrians to be able to hear it coming. I recall it being quite a normal incident for the blind believe it or not. I am not sure if that became a legal requirement or not but this is the only reason I can come up with for the noise on the Rivian.
 
There was talk a few years back about making it mandatory for electric vehicles to be required to have some sort of audible noise, this was in order for blind pedestrians to be able to hear it coming. I recall it being quite a normal incident for the blind believe it or not. I am not sure if that became a legal requirement or not but this is the only reason I can come up with for the noise on the Rivian.

**changes vote**
Yeah it is required as far as i know but what i heard was horrid. A scratchy whirry hissy thing lol.
 
Fanboy or not, this doesn't change my intentions, as there's no surprise here. It is about par and what is expected honestly for the vehicle and battery size under test. This is the mid grade 135 kWh variant of the Rivian, and not the larger 180kWH variant in the pipeline. Nor the 200kWh expected of the high capacity Cybertruck which should do 250+ miles.

This would be the same range that a stock 200-series will do. Add larger tires to match what these enthusiast EVs come with stock, and a 200-series may not even match that range. I think the real surprise is for those that have never towed.

Props to the new Tundra however. The newfound efficiency is a solid improvement.
 
There was talk a few years back about making it mandatory for electric vehicles to be required to have some sort of audible noise, this was in order for blind pedestrians to be able to hear it coming. I recall it being quite a normal incident for the blind believe it or not. I am not sure if that became a legal requirement or not but this is the only reason I can come up with for the noise on the Rivian.

My model 3 makes a “wahwahwahwah” noise in reverse and it’s hilarious but I ain’t mad because I can make the horn a fart or a whistle.
 
Fanboy or not, this doesn't change my intentions, as there's no surprise here. It is about par and what is expected honestly for the vehicle and battery size under test. This is the mid grade 135 kWh variant of the Rivian, and not the larger 180kWH variant in the pipeline. Nor the 200kWh expected of the high capacity Cybertruck which should do 250+ miles.

This would be the same range that a stock 200-series will do. Add larger tires to match what these enthusiast EVs come with stock, and a 200-series may not even match that range. I think the real surprise is for those that have never towed.

Props to the new Tundra however. The newfound efficiency is a solid improvement.

What? The rivian went 150 miles. For an LC to only go 150 miles that would be 6.25 mpg. Wouldn’t A stock LC would be double that +?

I recently got 12 towing a heavy ass boat up to Tahoe and back (+6000ft).
 
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What? The rivian went 150 miles. For an LC to only go 150 miles that would be 6.25 mpg. A stock LC would be double that +.

I recently got 12 towing a heavy ass boat up to Tahoe and back (+6000ft).

Should have clarified that I was talking about the big battery variants. These smaller battery versions aren't really suited for the job.

Boats usually tow pretty good as they have better aero and smaller frontal area than campers and RVs. Aero load usually has a bigger impact than weight. Some of us that tow bigger campers are definitely into the single digits. Probably not 6.25, but 7-10 is not out of the question.
 
but I ain’t mad because I can make the horn a fart or a whistle.

I had no idea this was a thing and now I want one.

Boats usually tow pretty good as they have better aero and smaller frontal area than campers and RVs. Aero load usually has a bigger impact than weight.

It shocks me how few people understand this concept. As long as the tires are adequately inflated pulling a 15klb trailer across flat ground requires barely any more sustained horsepower (which requires gallons of fuel or watts of electricity) than a 2k pound one if they are the same physical profile. Accelerating and/or stopping that trailer is a whole different ballgame.. but that isn't happening at steady state cruising.. which is what usually eats up battery capacity or fuel tank.

This matters even to people not towing when they install steel bumpers and lift and MTs and max tracks and RTTs. Across a flat interstate the weight is a negligible factor. But the aero profile.. that is where fuel mileage and tank range dive off a cliff.
 
My 17 gets 9.8mpg towing a small 2k trailer

11.9mpg when daily driving.

The R1S is not ment for towing. But will be interesting for short trips.
Interesting concept will be when the trailers will have battery packs and maybe even small motors that can assist and harvest energy too.

Never owned a EV but my wife’s gas bill getting outrageous with all the kids activities.
We have a deposit on a R1S.
Should be a fun family car. But I’m def gonna try to see how much we can use it for our outdoorsy activities.

Realistic tow range of 100-130 miles and then 40min to charge to 80%….that’s a tough pill to swallow.
 
Generally speaking, okay. But, This test was was of 2k teardrop with a tiny frontal area and probably 1/2-1/3 of any wakeboadding boat. And in my example I towed up the sierras. And both the tundra and rivian did the SAME test.
 

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