Yessir. I can get 100LL cheaper in NorCal than I can premium.Nice. $5.04/ gal last night in Orange County.
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Yessir. I can get 100LL cheaper in NorCal than I can premium.Nice. $5.04/ gal last night in Orange County.
.Yessir. I can get 100LL cheaper in NorCal than I can premium.
Now that's more like it. Put that into production vehicles and the game will have changed big time. (Assuming this battery is at the same level of quality as Tesla batteries, has the same longevity, recharge cycles, etc.)Tesla 752 mile range
For those complaining about range issues. 752 miles on evs are here. Just need my cybertruck.
Regular Unleaded is $2.73/gal here locally today.
One thing I don't hear a lot about is the cost to charge these vehicles. For those of you who own a EV, what does it cost to charge one fully at a public charge station? What do you think it costs you to charge overnight at home? And it's reasonable to believe that with increased demand will come increases in costs to charge as well. I'd like to see how that compares to an ICE vehicle with a similar range with fuel say at $3/gal.
Anyone want to trade me their Tesla for my 200?Damn, ship over some of that (w/ free delivery??)
$5.25/gal during Christmas somewhere in middle CA on way to the inlaws. To add insult to injury, there's often $100 or $125 transaction limits. Making filling my main and aux tank a 2 transaction 10 minute affair. $180, 10 minutes, to fill up 35 gallons, for 500 miles range. 1k miles around $360.
Don't really care about the cost, but when I do the same round trip in my wife's Tesla for about $50 supercharging. And it drives itself 90% of the way. That has my attention.
Charging at home cost me nothing as my solar system has long been fully amortized. $300 true up at at the end of the year with the electric company, to power my home and 13k miles of EV driving.
Maintenance, next to nothing over the 10 years I had my previous EV. Literally tires. And one "maintenance check" at 60k miles where they did nothing more than a coolant exchange. No oil change to speak of, no CA Smog test, no brake pads.
I have a 9kw solar so pay nothing to charge my Tesla 6-7 months a year. I have fairly high rack power rates and pay 0.22 per kWh without off peak. So if I charge empty to full it costs me $16.50 to go ~300 miles or $0.06/mile. In the LX I’m looking at $90-$100 to go 300 miles it $0.33/mi. With the Rivian I would pay $29.70 to go that 300 miles or about $0.10/mile.One thing I don't hear a lot about is the cost to charge these vehicles. For those of you who own a EV, what does it cost to charge one fully at a public charge station? What do you think it costs you to charge overnight at home? And it's reasonable to believe that with increased demand will come increases in costs to charge as well. I'd like to see how that compares to an ICE vehicle with a similar range with fuel say at $3/gal.
This is the truth.Damn, ship over some of that (w/ free delivery??)
$5.25/gal during Christmas somewhere in middle CA on way to the inlaws. To add insult to injury, there's often $100 or $125 transaction limits. Making filling my main and aux tank a 2 transaction 10 minute affair. $180, 10 minutes, to fill up 35 gallons, for 500 miles range. 1k miles around $360.
Don't really care about the cost, but when I do the same round trip in my wife's Tesla for about $50 supercharging. And it drives itself 90% of the way. That has my attention.
Charging at home cost me nothing as my solar system has long been fully amortized. $300 true up at at the end of the year with the electric company, to power my home and 13k miles of EV driving.
Maintenance, next to nothing over the 10 years I had my previous EV. Literally tires. And one "maintenance check" at 60k miles where they did nothing more than a coolant exchange. No oil change to speak of, no CA Smog test, no brake pads.
Specs on your LC plzAnyone want to trade me their Tesla for my 200?
Damn, ship over some of that (w/ free delivery??)
$5.25/gal during Christmas somewhere in middle CA on way to the inlaws. To add insult to injury, there's often $100 or $125 transaction limits. Making filling my main and aux tank a 2 transaction 10 minute affair. $180, 10 minutes, to fill up 35 gallons, for 500 miles range. 1k miles around $360.
Don't really care about the cost, but when I do the same round trip in my wife's Tesla for about $50 supercharging. And it drives itself 90% of the way. That has my attention.
Charging at home cost me nothing as my solar system has long been fully amortized. $300 true up at at the end of the year with the electric company, to power my home and 13k miles of EV driving.
Maintenance, next to nothing over the 10 years I had my previous EV. Literally tires. And one "maintenance check" at 60k miles where they did nothing more than a coolant exchange. No oil change to speak of, no CA Smog test, no brake pads.
I have a 9kw solar so pay nothing to charge my Tesla 6-7 months a year. I have fairly high rack power rates and pay 0.22 per kWh without off peak. So if I charge empty to full it costs me $16.50 to go ~300 miles or $0.06/mile. In the LX I’m looking at $90-$100 to go 300 miles it $0.33/mi. With the Rivian I would pay $29.70 to go that 300 miles or about $0.10/mile.
Now many places have off peak rates. Rates as low as 0.05 or 0.07/kWh to charge between midnight and 6am. My brother in CA pays 0.08 off peak. So for him it is $5.20 to go 300 miles in his Tesla and would be $10.80 to go 300 miles in the Rivian.
It’s pretty easy to figure out for your local. Cost per kWh * battery size = cost to go the distance of range. The Rivian has a 135 kWh battery pack.
I'm not the one you're asking, but here in BC the local hydro company used to pay $0.13/kw for backfeeding. They later reduced the payout considerably, to something like $0.01, and your solar array had to be "properly" sized for your house/needs, and not oversized. And at a later date new customers were not able to get payouts at all.Random question how does Alaska/your area handle backfeeding? Can you make it pay for itself?
I'm not the one you're asking, but here in BC the local hydro company used to pay $0.13/kw for backfeeding. They later reduced the payout considerably, to something like $0.01, and your solar array had to be "properly" sized for your house/needs, and not oversized. And at a later date new customers were not able to get payouts at all.
All this info came from a guy a few streets away from me; he told me his house is entirely net neutral and he didn't even run a natural gas line to it during the build. He uses an electric heat pump for heat, and had explained that the pump is rated to still work at -25C, and the lowest temp our city had ever seen was -24C. We saw considerably lower temps in the last few weeks, so I've no idea whether his heat pump still worked, and at what efficiency.
A local solar company gave me this quote a few years ago:
- 19x 310W solar panels
- Total cost of $15.7k CAD
- Cost break-even time of about 15 years
I didn't go for it.
Our renewable energy regulations are Stone Age. I get $0.05/kWh sell back, also if for 2 consecutive months I make >10% over my usage they can make me remove panels. With our large variation in daylight and weather I have ~3months where my power bill is almost nothing, ~4-5months a year where it covers about 50% of my power bill, then depending on the winter and how aggressive I am about clearing snow off the panels 2-4 months where I make almost nothing.Boy i sure don't miss SF. Well I'm lying actually.
At with gas at $5+ a pop and bay area salaries if im being honest you would probably catch me in a Hummer EV with 2 $500 parking spots.
Damn even with those rates it sounds good. Thanks for doing all the cost comparison.
How much of that 9kw array are you saturating with just the Tesla or is this part of a larger battery failover system?
Random question how does Alaska/your area handle backfeeding? Can you make it pay for itself?
Depending on your diet, the EV might be environmentally more favorable than walking.
And BTW I'm not an EV fanatic, just a realist. My current fleet:
Tesla P85D
Fiat 500e
KTM 1290ADV
DeLorean DMC12
LC200 HE, Harrop equipped
Piper PA32R-301T
I like to see the gasoline reserved for where it's currently irreplaceable, like in the old cars and the planes.
Best,
Ke
I wish they would have made the model Y with a normal drivers instrument clusterSold our 2014 Model s to a buddy. He drives it ~100 miles a day round trip. He charged at my house last night (since we don’t have public charging in Anchorage) as he lives 50 miles away. He says he can get 175 miles easy (and will get home with 5-10%) out of a 90% charge. He is at 96k miles and I took delivery 7 years and 9 months ago. It is a “base” model, Rated range new was 208 miles, it is fairly close to that.
In our 2018 LR 3 back late September I drove a 295 round trip after charging to 100%. I got home With 5%, which is pretty much exactly the 307 mile “original rated range”.
I’m in Alaska so drive in fairly severe conditions but rarely to never high temps.
Tennessee! Unfortunately, it’s one of the many reasons people are moving here.Where is this $3 gas you speak of?
I don't have anywhere to charge "conveniently." I have no way to charge overnight. Until I get situated I'm in an apartment and park on the street. Many people in cities park on the street and don't have a garage. So they would all have to go to stations for charging. At work we all park at a lot that is far from any buildings. So no charging there. Most of my employers have had the employees park kind of far out. I also during my driving tend to end up in some sketchy areas. I would have to keep a EV attended if I had to charge it. I wouldn't want it left alone at a charging station, i always have valuables in the truck. During road trips I always stay with the vehicle at all times since thieves look for people road tripping as they have lots of good stuff to steal. So i would have to stay with the vehicle while charging. I am especially worried when towing a trailer as it usually has lots of valuable in it and is a huge target for thieves. Also, when I see these expensive chargers in empty parking lots I'm really surprised they haven't been stolen yet. They got to be filled with precious metals. A tow strap and a running start and you got yourself some money. What does a public charger cost? Maybe I'm overly paranoid from just moving from Denver, theft was really bad there.I just looked at the specs on the 2024 Silverado. That is a beast. I like the onboard 10kW inverter to power your house in a blackout.
Something to think about- before owning an EV, most folks think about fueling as a gas tank paradigm- fill when empty or nearly empty. The reality with an EV is that it's more like how you charge your cellphone. You plug it in whenever it's handy, and often at night. So unless you're doing a road trip you're unlikely to have to fill from completely empty; and on a road trip you'll probably use rapid DC charging similar to Tesla's model.
Unfortunately Illinois is no better, given the fact that it is fiscally bankrupt as a state and Chicago is bankrupt as a city. Glad i live in Washington State and Alaska.$3.15 here in Illinois. 30 miles N of Chicago……
California is such a joke in so many ways it’s not even funny.
My Rivian and CT reservations are both for the longest range version. In my experience with EVs range is king, especially for me with the truck considering whatever I get will be used to tow my ~7k lb camper 10-15k miles a summer. I’m good with sitting back and watching what happens. I think there will be a steep curve in range and ok with waiting until 2023 or 2024.I saw Tesla removed the Cybertruck production estimate of 2022 from its website.
So that means a 400 mile off road capable EV is looking at 2023 delivery at the absolute soonest if you want to be an early adopter. I tend to want to be an early adopter generally, however I would not want to be one for an offroad vehicle, especially the way I use the Land Cruiser. Too risky. I'm imagining 2024 is the soonest the reliability and aftermarket support will be proven. It's a shame as I'm super excited at the prospect of multi day car camping especially in the summer (AC). I was contemplating getting the wife a Model Y so we could use its camp mode feature so hot summer nights in TX.
The aftermarket support angle I think is quite important. Even if you could have a RIvian R1S now...would you actually take it on trails? There are no sliders or bumpers. Now with 14.5" of clearance you might not need that. Until you did.
No argument from me. We’re looking to GTFO.Unfortunately Illinois is no better, given the fact that it is fiscally bankrupt as a state and Chicago is bankrupt as a city. Glad i live in Washington State and Alaska.