So with my Slee bumper my camera is now blocked. I found the thread about relocating the factory camera however has anyone just replaced the oem with an aftermarket camera? Just thought it might make more sense Han removing factory camera and having to then fill in the hole left behind. Thanks
Replacing OEM backup camera with aftermarket?
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Slee used to offer a relocation kit. Not sure if they still have it.
I'm in the same place with the spare covering my camera, and would like to have a work around to relocating the camera. I looked at buying the right connectors, making an extension and relocating down to the spare tire, or receiver or license plate area. Covering the hole where the camera came from would be simple enough with a piece of plastic shaped to fit and silicone sealer.
The challenge I found with trying an aftermarket camera with the factory nav screen, is integrating the AM camera with the factory system. Splicing aftermarket camera into the factory harness creates the need for an extra wire not found in most AM cameras that leads to the amplifier to get the video to show up. I haven't sorted out how to do it ( above my patience grade).
Bypassing the factory system all together with a remote camera(s) with a dedicated display for back up, front facing, 360 etc would be easier. Downside is another screen in the truck.
There are a couple of inmates here that are pretty good with wiring hacks, maybe they'll chime in with some ideas. (@jerryb , @TXSunDevil )
I'm in the same place with the spare covering my camera, and would like to have a work around to relocating the camera. I looked at buying the right connectors, making an extension and relocating down to the spare tire, or receiver or license plate area. Covering the hole where the camera came from would be simple enough with a piece of plastic shaped to fit and silicone sealer.
The challenge I found with trying an aftermarket camera with the factory nav screen, is integrating the AM camera with the factory system. Splicing aftermarket camera into the factory harness creates the need for an extra wire not found in most AM cameras that leads to the amplifier to get the video to show up. I haven't sorted out how to do it ( above my patience grade).
Bypassing the factory system all together with a remote camera(s) with a dedicated display for back up, front facing, 360 etc would be easier. Downside is another screen in the truck.
There are a couple of inmates here that are pretty good with wiring hacks, maybe they'll chime in with some ideas. (@jerryb , @TXSunDevil )
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I just purchased Slee’s bracket and have found the instructions on Mud to run new wire for the relocated oem camera. My thought was to leave the oem camera in place, cut the factory wires as per the Mud instructions and then wire it to an aftermarket camera.
I looked at splicing in an AM camera into factory harness, but the signal shielding wire required between the factory camera and amp is what threw me off (the AM camera I found didnt have it). If you come up a hack that works please let us know.
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Relocating the factory camera has been done and appears simple enough. Splicing into the factory camera wiring appears straightforward.
Slee's new Backup Camera Bracket Install
My only thought is to leave the oem camera alone and just wire in an aftermarket camera. Am I oversimplifying?
Slee's new Backup Camera Bracket Install
My only thought is to leave the oem camera alone and just wire in an aftermarket camera. Am I oversimplifying?
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assume the lexus cam is the same as the toyota one, and it a six volt. Plan accordingly. If you use a transistor to bump up the stock cam to 12 volt, then I know there's a way to step down a new 12 volt cam to work right. I never looked into that.
I'm sure there's amazon items all packaged up to do that for 25$
The six volt power comes from the back up cam ECU, otherwise called the television camera controller. (smallest box under all the other stuff under the passenger seat)
I'm sure there's amazon items all packaged up to do that for 25$
The six volt power comes from the back up cam ECU, otherwise called the television camera controller. (smallest box under all the other stuff under the passenger seat)
I'm probably over complicating it...
Thanks Jerry- when it comes to wiring and 'Letrics I'm uhhh dangerous
. I'm great at spinning wrenches, but takes me some extra studying to get clear when digging through wiring diagrams. Ive been hesitant to do something dumb thereby shorting a circuit on a PCB somewhere. You know how sensitive the circuits can be in these trucks.buy this, install new 12 volt cam. I didn't realize this is easier than going in the other direction volts wise.
Industry Grade DC 6V To DC 12V 1A Step-Up Converter | eBay
If anyone needs a new back up cam I have a pioneer that they sent me for free. The 8201 nex unit cam. 40$ shipping included. Send a note if anyone wants it.
Industry Grade DC 6V To DC 12V 1A Step-Up Converter | eBay
If anyone needs a new back up cam I have a pioneer that they sent me for free. The 8201 nex unit cam. 40$ shipping included. Send a note if anyone wants it.
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If you are going to install a new aftermarket camera and go through the hassle of a step up transformer might as well delete the nav and install a new head unit 
ok / did this / have you or jerry replaced the oem camera?If you are going to install a new aftermarket camera and go through the hassle of a step up transformer might as well delete the nav and install a new head unit
mine died recently, I havent' done anything but take out the stock cam and see how to mount another.
I found stock grommets that look to fit after you drill out the ones that hold the stock camera mount onto the body.
it doesn't look like a big deal to glue down another cam to the stock base with the wire coming out the back.
I'm just waiting for a good time to take the passenger seat out again.
I'm using a pioneer cam that was free, any cam that has a 33mm x 26mm base or smaller can be epoxied down or glued whatever. Pretty small hole in the back if you're trying to shove a tiny connector though.
grommets w w w. amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CVOLS
drill the old ones out and the bracket comes loose.
I found stock grommets that look to fit after you drill out the ones that hold the stock camera mount onto the body.
it doesn't look like a big deal to glue down another cam to the stock base with the wire coming out the back.
I'm just waiting for a good time to take the passenger seat out again.
I'm using a pioneer cam that was free, any cam that has a 33mm x 26mm base or smaller can be epoxied down or glued whatever. Pretty small hole in the back if you're trying to shove a tiny connector though.
grommets w w w. amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CVOLS
drill the old ones out and the bracket comes loose.
OK, i had the same goal with an ‘03 that doesn’t have any rear camera or proximity sensor and a new Dissent rear. I can park it in a spot no prob, but i live in a city and parallel parking would eventually result in some collateral damage.
I’m not ready to go through the whole “03+later Nav Delete” until i have my own garage back.
What my stereo guy found is a rear-view mirror that has an integrated screen that disappears when it’s not on, and we’re going to try a “license plate frame” mounted camera.
Should be hooked-up in a couple weeks. I’ll report back if anyone is interested.
I’m not ready to go through the whole “03+later Nav Delete” until i have my own garage back.
What my stereo guy found is a rear-view mirror that has an integrated screen that disappears when it’s not on, and we’re going to try a “license plate frame” mounted camera.
Should be hooked-up in a couple weeks. I’ll report back if anyone is interested.
Bump. Anyone figured this out? My 06LX will need a new camera soon once the Dissent rear goes on. The factory camera is poor, so I'd prefer to try an aftermarket.
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Anybody ever gotten far enough with this to figure out if the crap quality (especially in the dark) of our stock system is the fault of the camera or the screen? I'd be more down to spend the time/money to figure this out if it was really going to help. Seems like a lot of trouble for the same garbage quality backup view on the screen.
2003 - 2007 Lexus LX 470 (J100) HDMI Video Interface this, the just add whatever camera you like.
you can go new 12vdc cam to old deck 6vdc, new cam 12vdc to new deck 12vdc , old cam 6vdc to new deck 12vdc,
the quality of the stock cam 2006 on a new screen is good, in my case it was. (pioneer)
the quality of a new pioneer cam was only slightly better than the stock picture on a new screen. (pioneer)
I don't know if the quality of the picture would be beneficial with new cam on the old screen
a new cam 12vdc on a old screen that didn't have a cam installed from the factory might be problematic, obviously you don't have a television ecu to molest. Any input that could be used would have to be exploited by after market stuff, maybe like the post above mine. I don't know.
Any car that cam with a cam can just be wired as you like keeping track of voltages. I've had old cam to old screen, old cam to new screen, new cam to new screen.
My transistor failed, that was the reason to install a new cam for me. But the camera never failed itself.
Looking back now I probably should have just installed a new cam, 12vdc in the first place. I was probably tired of wiring at the time.
Installing a new cam on the spare tire mount (see @WickedPickle ) is easier than moving the old one. Just know that new cam with old deck needs a transistor and getting to the ecu under the seat at the very bottom of the pan. A new cam with new deck you could ignore the television ecu and run all new wire from back to front under the truck penetrating close to the seat pan area passenger side, best option in my book.
IF someone with a rear carrier wanted a new cam mounted anywhere on the carrier to the old screen I'd go the way of wickedpickle as far as routing goes, under the car to the seat pan. Transistor mount under the pass seat to television ecu.
same instance if a new stereo, rear carrier mount, under the car to passenger seat area the up to new deck.
without a rear carrier but with a new cam it makes sense to go through the hatch under the inside upper trim, down the passenger side, down rear passenger door carpet, under to the passenger seat pan. then onto a new deck, or stock ecu.
integrating the newer cars television ecu into an old car that didn't have one would be difficult. There is a guy on here that tried and couldn't get it going. In those cases it would make sense to just get another screen and mount your cam wherever you wanted it, using a complete kit, screen +wire+cam, hard drive to record, etc etc.
there's info on the 4 runner forums about transistors and stuff.
the quality of the stock cam 2006 on a new screen is good, in my case it was. (pioneer)
the quality of a new pioneer cam was only slightly better than the stock picture on a new screen. (pioneer)
I don't know if the quality of the picture would be beneficial with new cam on the old screen
a new cam 12vdc on a old screen that didn't have a cam installed from the factory might be problematic, obviously you don't have a television ecu to molest. Any input that could be used would have to be exploited by after market stuff, maybe like the post above mine. I don't know.
Any car that cam with a cam can just be wired as you like keeping track of voltages. I've had old cam to old screen, old cam to new screen, new cam to new screen.
My transistor failed, that was the reason to install a new cam for me. But the camera never failed itself.
Looking back now I probably should have just installed a new cam, 12vdc in the first place. I was probably tired of wiring at the time.
Installing a new cam on the spare tire mount (see @WickedPickle ) is easier than moving the old one. Just know that new cam with old deck needs a transistor and getting to the ecu under the seat at the very bottom of the pan. A new cam with new deck you could ignore the television ecu and run all new wire from back to front under the truck penetrating close to the seat pan area passenger side, best option in my book.
IF someone with a rear carrier wanted a new cam mounted anywhere on the carrier to the old screen I'd go the way of wickedpickle as far as routing goes, under the car to the seat pan. Transistor mount under the pass seat to television ecu.
same instance if a new stereo, rear carrier mount, under the car to passenger seat area the up to new deck.
without a rear carrier but with a new cam it makes sense to go through the hatch under the inside upper trim, down the passenger side, down rear passenger door carpet, under to the passenger seat pan. then onto a new deck, or stock ecu.
integrating the newer cars television ecu into an old car that didn't have one would be difficult. There is a guy on here that tried and couldn't get it going. In those cases it would make sense to just get another screen and mount your cam wherever you wanted it, using a complete kit, screen +wire+cam, hard drive to record, etc etc.
there's info on the 4 runner forums about transistors and stuff.
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I’m trying to retrofit my 6V camera to a 12V head unit, does anyone have details of what each of the 4 wires going to the camera are (Black, White, Red, Bare)? Need to tie in a 12V to 6V converter, looks like the DS rear cargo panel is the best spot. Unless anyone knows where this harness ties in under PS seat or at HU?
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