Builds R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build

[r2m]

One thing I wasn't expecting was to get a little more kick-in-the-pants from a stand still.
Gains of over a second in 0-60 times and almost a second in the quarter mile run at 4 mph faster!
That may come in handy on those 2 lane roads passing semi's and RV's on the HWY 395 to Tahoe.
Was really hoping for at least mid-20's ish mpg, not just one tick up from the previous model.
After I get through building it, I'll be down to the same mileage I get now.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I am curious how the 8 speed and 10 speed transmissions will deal with larger tires. Hopefully reduce the impact a bit.

 

[Washingtontaco]

I think you got the approach, breakover and departure wrong or crossed. The 550 is much better in all three.

 

[Acrad]

This is what I found years back

03-’09 GX470
Approach: 30 or 31 deg
Departure: 25 deg (normal) / 29 deg (high)
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‘10-’13 GX460 / Normal Setting Premium model
Approach: 28 deg
Departure: 25 deg / Possibly 29 deg (high) -published data seemingly absent
Breakover: 21 deg
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‘14-’19 GX460 / Normal Setting Luxury model
Approach: 21 deg
Departure: 23 deg / Possibly 27 deg (high) -published data seemingly absent
Breakover: 21 deg
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2008-2015 Land Cruiser
Approach: 30 deg
Departure: 20 deg
Breakover: 21 deg
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2016+ Land Cruiser
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 24 deg
Breakover: 21 deg
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2008-2015 LX 570

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2016+ LX 570

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'10-'13 Prado 150
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 26 deg
Breakover: 22 deg

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'14-'19 Prado 150
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 25 deg (few trims 24 deg)
Breakover: 22 deg

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'03-'09 Prado 120
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 24-25 deg
Breakover: 22 deg
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GX - 2nd Gen (2010-2023) - #Approach / #Departure / #Breakover - ‘03-’09 GX470 Approach: 30 or 31 deg Departure: 25 deg (normal) / 29 deg (high) ============================================== ‘10-’13 GX460 / Normal Setting Premium model Approach: 28 deg Departure: 25 deg / Possibly 29 deg (high)...

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[r2m]

This is what I found years back

03-’09 GX470
Approach: 30 or 31 deg
Departure: 25 deg (normal) / 29 deg (high)
==============================================
‘10-’13 GX460 / Normal Setting Premium model
Approach: 28 deg
Departure: 25 deg / Possibly 29 deg (high) -published data seemingly absent
Breakover: 21 deg
==============================================
‘14-’19 GX460 / Normal Setting Luxury model
Approach: 21 deg
Departure: 23 deg / Possibly 27 deg (high) -published data seemingly absent
Breakover: 21 deg
==============================================
2008-2015 Land Cruiser
Approach: 30 deg
Departure: 20 deg
Breakover: 21 deg
==============================================
2016+ Land Cruiser
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 24 deg
Breakover: 21 deg
==============================================
2008-2015 LX 570

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2016+ LX 570

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'10-'13 Prado 150
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 26 deg
Breakover: 22 deg

==============================================
'14-'19 Prado 150
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 25 deg (few trims 24 deg)
Breakover: 22 deg

==============================================
'03-'09 Prado 120
Approach: 32 deg
Departure: 24-25 deg
Breakover: 22 deg
==============================================

#Approach / #Departure / #Breakover - ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion

GX - 2nd Gen (2010-2023) - #Approach / #Departure / #Breakover - ‘03-’09 GX470 Approach: 30 or 31 deg Departure: 25 deg (normal) / 29 deg (high) ============================================== ‘10-’13 GX460 / Normal Setting Premium model Approach: 28 deg Departure: 25 deg / Possibly 29 deg (high)...

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Thanks Acrad, I did a little more digging and have revised some numbers. The ground clearance is all over the place on different websites. There's alignment with the approach, departure and breakover angle numbers but there's all kinds of numbers for ground clearance. This is odd considering the common agreement on breakover angle. Breakover angle is a direct correlation of ground clearance. The more ground clearance, the more breakover angle (assuming wheel base remains the same). Breakover angle is the same on these various websites but give different ground clearances. Below is what I I've come up with, and thank you Acrad for the 460 numbers.
I guess I'll have to find out for myself the truth when I put one of these beauties in my driveway.

Spec	GX460	GX550
Weight	5126 lbs	5524 lbs
Ground Clearance	8.1"	8.86"-10.9" - 11.6"
Width	74.2"	83.22"
MPG	Combined 16; 15/19	Combined 17; 21 highway
Approach: '10-'13	28°	26°
Approach: '14-'29	21°	x
Departure: '10-'13	25°	23°
Departure: '14-'19	23°	x
Breakover	21°	24°
0-60 mph	7.8 sec	6.3 sec
1/4 mile	15.4 sec @ 91 mph	14.7 sec @ 95 mph
60-0 braking	133 ft	115 ft

 

[JDUB fab]

It be interesting to see how our modified rigs shape up to the stock numbers.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

Thanks Acrad, I did a little more digging and have revised some numbers. The ground clearance is all over the place on different websites. There's alignment with the approach, departure and breakover angle numbers but there's all kinds of numbers for ground clearance. This is odd considering the common agreement on breakover angle. Breakover angle is a direct correlation of ground clearance. The more ground clearance, the more breakover angle (assuming wheel base remains the same). Breakover angle is the same on these various websites but give different ground clearances. Below is what I I've come up with, and thank you Acrad for the 460 numbers.
I guess I'll have to find out for myself the truth when I put one of these beauties in my driveway.

Spec	GX460	GX550
Weight	5126 lbs	5524 lbs
Ground Clearance	8.1"	8.86"-10.9" - 11.6"
Width	74.2"	83.22"
MPG	Combined 16; 15/19	Combined 17; 21 highway
Approach: '10-'13	28°	26°
Approach: '14-'29	21°	x
Departure: '10-'13	25°	23°
Departure: '14-'19	23°	x
Breakover	21°	24°
0-60 mph	7.8 sec	6.3 sec
1/4 mile	15.4 sec @ 91 mph	14.7 sec @ 95 mph
60-0 braking	133 ft	115 ft

Something that bothers me about one of those numbers is when my rig was stock I was faster than 7.8s to 60. I wonder what the deal is with that metric? Unless you're using MotorWeek or TFL? Those are notoriously slower than C&D or Edmunds. I was consistently ripping off 6.7-6.9s when it was stock.

 

[Acrad]

Motortrend got 0-60 back in 2010 in 6.9

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2010-lexus-gx-460-test/

Also a little air..

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At 4:24 in video

https://youtu.be/SYasGyE_1Y0?t=264

 

[CaptRussia253]

Motortrend got 0-60 back in 2010 in 6.9

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2010-lexus-gx-460-test/

Also a little air..

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At 4:24 in video

https://youtu.be/SYasGyE_1Y0?t=264

That would be scary haha

 

[GrizzlyClint]

That would be scary haha

But fun as s*** though. LOL

 

[GrizzlyClint]

Motortrend got 0-60 back in 2010 in 6.9

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2010-lexus-gx-460-test/

Also a little air..

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At 4:24 in video

https://youtu.be/SYasGyE_1Y0?t=264

That's more like it. On another note once we have more debt paid off I'm going to grab that electric supercharger turbo thing that TORQAmp is developing for larger displacement engines. Been talking with them for a while about it. Would be nice to have a toggle switch to engage when passing to make passing quicker.

 

[CaptRussia253]

That's more like it. On another note once we have more debt paid off I'm going to grab that electric supercharger turbo thing that TORQAmp is developing for larger displacement engines. Been talking with them for a while about it. Would be nice to have a toggle switch to engage when passing to make passing quicker.

Interesting. Never heard of an electric turbo thingy before.

 

[r2m]

I've had that idea for a long time (since the early '90's) but to get an electric motor to spool up to between 80,000 - 200,000 rpm is not easy and requires a lot of "juice".

 

[Hiluxforever]

I've had that idea for a long time (since the early '90's) but to get an electric motor to spool up to between 80,000 - 200,000 rpm is not easy and requires a lot of "juice".

F1 developed an electric hybrid motor that can pre-spin the turbo, super cool stuff, so I think electric forced induction should be viable, especially for torque boosting applications.

 

[Banandalorian]

Something that bothers me about one of those numbers is when my rig was stock I was faster than 7.8s to 60. I wonder what the deal is with that metric? Unless you're using MotorWeek or TFL? Those are notoriously slower than C&D or Edmunds. I was consistently ripping off 6.7-6.9s when it was stock.

There's a lot of variability in 0-60 testing and I assume that the GX460 was often not given the same degree of performance consideration as a sports car. Somebody pushed the gas pedal down and measured 0-60 in 7.8 and said good enough.

 

[r2m]

F1 developed an electric hybrid motor that can pre-spin the turbo, super cool stuff, so I think electric forced induction should be viable, especially for torque boosting applications.

I'm thinking the technology is finally here to do a legit e-boost.
If the first product is almost $3,000 (with shipping), after this technology gets a little momentum, I can see those prices easily get to sub $1,500.
As a new product comes out the consumer is always paying for all the patents, the years of R&D it took for it to come to fruition and the uniqueness of a company having the only patent on such a technology. Remember "Jet Skis"? For about 15 years nobody was allowed to make them other than Kawasaki pending patent infringement. Once that patent ended, then you saw all kinds of other personal watercraft come out.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

Interesting. Never heard of an electric turbo thingy before.

Forgive the cringeness of this content creator but here's some info on the idea. It's rather interesting I think.





Drag Race Testing a $2,500 ELECTRIC TURBO!! Will This Thing Really Perform?? - https://youtu.be/qLtBHDaZ_ig?feature=shared

Oh and here is another video.

Ford Mustang V8 with Electric Supercharger from TORQAMP

Ford Mustang equipped with TorqAmp electric supercharger.Check our channel for more videos.For more information see:https://www.torqamp.comhttps://www.facebo...

youtu.be

 

[Banandalorian]

I'm thinking the technology is finally here to do a legit e-boost.
If the first product is almost $3,000 (with shipping), after this technology gets a little momentum, I can see those prices easily get to sub $1,500.
As a new product comes out the consumer is always paying for all the patents, the years of R&D it took for it to come to fruition and the uniqueness of a company having the only patent on such a technology. Remember "Jet Skis"? For about 15 years nobody was allowed to make them other than Kawasaki pending patent infringement. Once that patent ended, then you saw all kinds of other personal watercraft come out.

I think the real advantage is with ease of development and packaging freedom since you eliminate the exhaust or pulley routing limitations of a traditional turbo or supercharger. You would still need all the other stuff (fuel, tune, cooling, intake, etc) but you could theoretically stick the "e-turbo" anywhere it can get power and air and only have to worry about intake and charge piping.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

I think the real advantage is with ease of development and packaging freedom since you eliminate the exhaust or pulley routing limitations of a traditional turbo or supercharger. You would still need all the other stuff (fuel, tune, cooling, intake, etc) but you could theoretically stick the "e-turbo" anywhere it can get power and air and only have to worry about intake and charge piping.

My thoughts exactly. I don't need much more than 3-5 psi, that'll be plenty.

 

[r2m]

Had an old desk wireless phone charger that I decided to make into a second car charger for my wife's phone when we're on road trips. There really isn't a good place for a second phone holder and charger for her phone.
Here is what I had:

I designed it in SoildWorks. Gutted the old charger above of it's electronics, tossed the case and all the plastic. Reconfigured the electronics a wee bit to fit in the redesigned new holder.
Here is how it looks now. The first pic is of the ball socket for universal positioning. The waffle pattern is so it will configure to the compound curves of the dash. The sun makes it look much more course than it really is. In person, it looks really good.

This is the phone charger/holder mounted to the ball socket.