Quaker state "dey" high zinc high pressure oil.

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Just found this on the shelf, Has 1221 ppm of zinc which isn't amazing, but still much better then most oils out there now at around 400ppm. It also has very good pressure ratings as well as other anti wear agents.

Guy did a good comparession here, while not at the top of the ratings its still very high and I just bought some at Walmart for $15 for 1.25 gallons. That's way cheaper then anything comparable.

Skim through it http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-...fy-motor-oil-lab-test-and-wear-test-data.html
 
I've never used a zinc addititve. What is the advantage?

I bought my 1986 FJ60 from the original owner about 20 years ago and he told me he'd only used Castrol GTX oil. Ran great when I bought it (166,000 miles ago), so that's what I've used since then.
 
Big - there is a whole lot of discussion on this here on the forums. Basically, our engine is a flat tappett, strong spring engine that requires more protection in the forms of Zinc and Phorphorous in the oils we use. But by todays standards those two items lead to premature CAT death and thus oils today have much lower rating for those items to help with the longevity of your CAT (not to mention the valvetrain has changed to where the parts don't need the same protection).

So really you want to run an oil with a high ZDDP% (Zinc and Phosphorous) to help protect our "antique" engines (yes they are considered antique). Minimum you would want would be something running a ZDDP% of about 1100ppm (talks on here an other forums say that you should truly run about 1400-1600ppm oils for full protection) so what we find is we have to purchase expensive oils that have these higher ratings or HDEO (diesel) oils. Unfortunately, most mfgr's are not very forthcoming with this information so you have to make an educated guess. I think until recently most Castrol GTX has been pretty good but I want to say that it has dropped in ZDDP% in the last few years.

For A LOT more information check out the site... BobIsTheOilGuy.com and go into their VOA (Virgin Oil Analysis) sections and look around. I have found that the ones with the highest ratings, that can pretty much be picked up anywhere, are Rotella T5/T6, Delo 400LE, and a few others. Again, unfortunately for us with the changes that have been moving towards lower ZDDP% oils, stuff for our engines is getting hard to find and much more expensive.

Note: here is a whole thread on the 5W30 where they were not very impressed with the numbers, also found a few other muscle car forums that were showing the same 800ish ZDDP results of the DEFY. Personally, think I am going to stick with Rotella, Delvac, or DELO.
 
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Zinc additives are especially important while breaking in a new cam. The last rebuild I broke in the motor with Rotella and just for extra protection added a zinc additive. Competion Cams sells a good break in a oil
with additives specifically for break in. From what I've read even Rotella, delvac and Delo will be reducing their zinc contents again next year. Like with TV dinners, I guess we need to read the labels
 
Yeah unfortunately it looks like we are going to have to start ordering the "specific" high ZDDP stuff soon like the VR1 Oils from Valvoline and AMSOIL. But those are $$$ oils. Oh well, guess that is what we get for being a society that would rather purchase something new vs fix something that is just fine.
 
Personally, think I am going to stick with Rotella, Delvac, or DELO.

Yup those are the other three I use. I think this may be better in way, not so much in others. The price is killer though and that is usually what I go by when I change ny oils, which it those three (now 4) is cheaper.

All of these are like 1/2 price compared to any of the "good high zinc" oils.

Most of the time if you buy high.mileage diesel oil your good.
 
My suggestion would be to buy an oil with a known/published Zn and/or P level, some Redline break-in additive, and do a little math. That's what I am doing now that Caterpillar has dropped their old high Zn oil.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=121&pcid=1
 
I think until recently most Castrol GTX has been pretty good but I want to say that it has dropped in ZDDP% in the last few years.

Yup. The 'starburst' on it means it's no longer above something like 800ppm.
It ate a cam very nicely for me a few years back.

The stinker is that the levels are changing and the labels aren't,
necessarily. Anything 'Eco' or 'Green' is not so good.

On the up side, it's really most important when breaking in a cam.

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I just run castrol high mileage oil with some zinc additive although I've been thinking of moving to diesel oil here in the near future.
 
No bottum line, like it was said above anything with a green or eco label will have less then 400ppm zinc. Not good for our engines. Unfortunately there is so much more to oil then that. Another safe bet is mobile 1. Bottum line would be spend money in high quality oil but that's not a option for so many of us.
Just don't buy cheap oil, eco, green, anything that claims to safe gas mileage. Safe bet is done of the above mentioned options. For me it will remain to be whatever is on sale at the time I do my oil changes.
 
I have never seen any additive advertised as a ZINC additive. What are some options out there in regards to a zinc additive?
 
I have never seen any additive advertised as a ZINC additive. What are some options out there in regards to a zinc additive?

Look for ZDDP additive.
 
Comp Cams makes a break- in additive that does work. $13.95 at Action Auto when they were still Action.
It's a ZDDP additive. Most cam makers have one now, as self- defense.

Mobil 1 20-50 full synthetic is still 1200ppm. Ungodly expensive.

All the 'high zinc' botique oils are also ungodly expensive.

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