Overland Expo East 2018

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If you think about it from maybe a different angle; "people who want to do something that looks cool, but have no idea how to even start", then the Expo is a great idea. Yes, I had an amazing time with truck I bought for $4000, a gazelle tent with a buddy heater, my $100 fridge, and my LLBean mud boots. But, Joe Overlander has desire and a bank account, they need trailers, campers, titanium toilette seats, special camp chairs, special wheel rims, handcrafter tool rolls, Camp Chef kitchens, etc etc etc. Its all good for the economy to have people willing to spend money on stuff many of us will just smile politely and walk on by.

Many of the attendees bought a brand new XYZ vehicle, and started modifying it based on internet knowledge. But they really have no clue what they got and why. So at least they come to an event, whining and bitching, but show up. And in my limited experience in the 5 classes I did, they where hungry to learn. There is always an asswhole in every class that shows up to spew his narrow minded non-sense, but we had standing room only on some classes and people where asking a lot of questions. And many of them had no idea how to deal with the extreme weather, and more bitching and whining. It was amazing to see some poor bastard push a stroller in the mud, I can't even fathom how they missed the fact that the stroller wouldn't move.

So, for experienced overlanders (or whatever you feel comfortable calling what we do), the show can be skipped, nothing new for you. I go because I enjoy providing training, its free, and they pay me. But what I really would challenge this group to do is attend the Appalachian Rendezvous, that is an event geared more towards what we would enjoy. And this year the T/J ratio (Toyota to Jeep) was very large, lots ofyotas. And I personally would like to see more, but would also want all of you to try it out, because I know you will truly enjoy it.
 
There is no such thing as bad weather, only various states of preparedness. Just sucks when many who may have been personally prepared had to rely on a venue that was not.

...titanium toilette seats...some poor bastard push a stroller in the mud...
:idea: Titanium overland stroller skids. Patent pending now!
 
There is no such thing as bad weather, only various states of preparedness. Just sucks when many who may have been personally prepared had to rely on a venue that was not.


:idea: Titanium overland stroller skids. Patent pending now!

On it
 
Jeep actually already has a stroller line. Eye roll.
 
Where are the stroller lift kits and flotation tires?


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If you think about it from maybe a different angle; "people who want to do something that looks cool, but have no idea how to even start", then the Expo is a great idea. Yes, I had an amazing time with truck I bought for $4000, a gazelle tent with a buddy heater, my $100 fridge, and my LLBean mud boots. But, Joe Overlander has desire and a bank account, they need trailers, campers, titanium toilette seats, special camp chairs, special wheel rims, handcrafter tool rolls, Camp Chef kitchens, etc etc etc. Its all good for the economy to have people willing to spend money on stuff many of us will just smile politely and walk on by.

Many of the attendees bought a brand new XYZ vehicle, and started modifying it based on internet knowledge. But they really have no clue what they got and why. So at least they come to an event, whining and bitching, but show up. And in my limited experience in the 5 classes I did, they where hungry to learn. There is always an asswhole in every class that shows up to spew his narrow minded non-sense, but we had standing room only on some classes and people where asking a lot of questions. And many of them had no idea how to deal with the extreme weather, and more bitching and whining. It was amazing to see some poor bastard push a stroller in the mud, I can't even fathom how they missed the fact that the stroller wouldn't move.

So, for experienced overlanders (or whatever you feel comfortable calling what we do), the show can be skipped, nothing new for you. I go because I enjoy providing training, its free, and they pay me. But what I really would challenge this group to do is attend the Appalachian Rendezvous, that is an event geared more towards what we would enjoy. And this year the T/J ratio (Toyota to Jeep) was very large, lots ofyotas. And I personally would like to see more, but would also want all of you to try it out, because I know you will truly enjoy it.


you forgot a bidet in your list. :hillbilly:


Completely agree 100 percent with you. Fact of the matter is there are always groups within groups that bring the bad name. Normally they have more money than sense and are in it for the look. Back home we had the Desert or California Bro's. Normally can be seen in a brand new jacked up chevy or ford diesel on 44 plus tires pulling a sand rail or a turbo banshee. normally all black, shoes, socks, shirt, shorts, hat normally with fox or thor racing logos on it. They were normally 75% of the time douches but could also know their stuff so they weren't completely unsufferable.
In overlanding you have the Broverland tag. Basically the same thing but dress different and trade the truck for a 4runner or GX with all news equipment on it. Ones that camped and complained are more than likely in this category.
I do still feel bad for the ones that were turned away or waited forever to get to the grounds, etc..... that's just bad management and seems to be a common cry from both east and west for the last two years or so.


@Izzyandsue does the expo not do sponsored trail rides at all during the event??

The rally up here is classes, sponsors, raffle at night, obstacle course at the event (normally run by an ex camel trophy guy, you tell him your what you have done to your truck, lockers, no lockers and he pushes it to the limits of what he thinks it can do etc.....) but the big draw is also the trail rides in the surrounding mountains.... normally 4-5 hours long and have 3-4k elevation change on some of them.

If expo doesn't do this, then maybe you could suggest it as it would thin out the crowds during the day and let people get in some good riding and good views of the surrounding areas up there.

I go to these types of events to find like minded people for the most part but the trail rides are the gold star in most peoples minds.
 
I do feel for the weekend passers, the folks that got turned away from camping and the vendors that saw less traffic due to the conditions. But for the folks that were camping that were complaining, really.......? complaining about mud and cold and rain at an overlanders event? I had a blast with everyone, and it was just nice to sit under the awning in the rain. It also was an opportunity to identify things that did not work well in those conditions and make it on a christmas list :)
If you were not in a category above Id have to question if outdoors is a thing for you. Maybe im just an a****** :p


Agreed.... when I first read the comments I was just laughing that "overlanders" were complaining about mud and rain....... I actually love when events turn to this as some of our earlier ONSC did. As long as my tent doesn't leak on me i'm happy and even then I could always move inside the vehicle if really needed. I think it was back in 08 or 09 where we had one fairly large group at Uwharrie group camp where it rained so hard a few of our pop ups broke because the water collected up on it too fast..... we were all huddled under the few that didn't break for about an hour until it let up. Brought that group together pretty well. Not sure who was there most likely @GarnerFJ40 @mtweller @Fort Knox and @southerncruiser62 from that time frame. Hell I think the first overnight trip with ONSC for me was camping in single digit weather at Greg's family farm. That we were unprepared for as were originally were only going to do a day trip and ended up staying with only our clothes and a picnic blanket for warmth... but still it was fun as hell.
 
Yeah Al, agree. The first trip to the farm was COLD. I retreated to my new to me Duramax for some warmth after putting the pig on at 5am freezing my ass off. That’s when I learned diesels don’t get warm at idle in 7* weather. Lol. When a Labrador retriever is shivering, you know it was cold. @southerncruiser62 made a few business calls and such in the office that night though and all was well (inside joke). Remember trying to scare some folks that night in the milking barn? Good times, sorry I’m rambling and reminiscing.
 
Remember trying to scare some folks that night in the milking barn? Good times, sorry I’m rambling and reminiscing.


I had forgotten about that!
 
200 Coming down the BFG hill on Saturday morning at Overland Expo East 2018.

 
Now for your laugh for the evening.



The guy in the yellow jacket at the end walked up and said he hated Land Rovers, I said this is a Land Cruiser and he got confused.

I had to carry a case of beer from my parking spot, up that hill to the BFG tent, i was catching a ton of crap for not driving up that hill. Said I need to trade up to KM3's from my worn out KM2's. I am thinking locking the center diff was the key to this mishap.

Best line at the Marshall cook out Saturday night is I would have to turn in my LC keys. :<)
 
Good that they finally responded... there were some pissed off people waiting on a response.
 
any word on the reeb ranch, did they react like the first Expo east, aka in dismay and disappointment in how we left their fields
 
Now for your laugh for the evening.



The guy in the yellow jacket at the end walked up and said he hated Land Rovers, I said this is a Land Cruiser and he got confused.

I had to carry a case of beer from my parking spot, up that hill to the BFG tent, i was catching a ton of crap for not driving up that hill. Said I need to trade up to KM3's from my worn out KM2's. I am thinking locking the center diff was the key to this mishap.

Best line at the Marshall cook out Saturday night is I would have to turn in my LC keys. :<)



LOL


yeah no locked center your not in 4wd, doesn't matter how many other lockers you have on
 
And 04 does not auto lock center in low. Fail. I really don’t want to turn my keys in but feel like I should.
 

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