285/75-16 OME 861/862
ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper.
ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper.
OME stock height question and pics please !!
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any pics with stock height OME springs and 31's ... ?
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With 1" I dought you will need it. Just drive it & let your butt dyno tell you.
Did the OME Stock height kit several months ago ... kept the stock 31's on it ... it works great ! didn't do Caster correction cause its just not needed ! I did do a 1" spacer though in the front springs for the anti stink bug look ... but thats totally optional ... I just wanted a more level look ...
Basically, no. It's possible there's some odball case where it might be required, but the 861/862 is typically installed and run without paying any attention to caster. It's close enough to stock there's no need to adjust.
stock height heavies and nitrochargers on the front only, with 315/75/16 Goodyear MTR's WILL have an ARB on the front eventuall [ it's sitting in the living room after fresh powdercoat waiting on me to buy the winch and stuff ].
According to the slee website the choices for the front are 2851 med 18.7" free length & 2861 heavies 18.9" free length. For the rear the choices are 2860 med 18.9" free length, 2862 heavies 18.11" free length & 2863 heavies 18.9" free length. Everyone concur? The question here is will we need caster correction bushings with these new springs. Please give us some feedback. Thanks.The 862 stock height heavies will give you at least an inch of lift in the back without a load, probably more. The issue is that they won't ride as nice without the weight to settle them.
Do you have over a 100,000 miles on the stock coils? Then they're sagging. You will notice the difference right away if you replace the worn OEM coils with the new stock height OME coils.
My best estimate is that the 861/862 combination gets you about halfway to the 2.5" lift when first installed, then you get some settling in the first couple of thousand miles that loses a little of what was gained, but then it's all good.
You can add the packers if you need some fine adjustment. If you want more than that, then go with the 2.5" lift.
Some people have no issues with less caster. On my 851 coils that lifted my rig 1.5", I did notice a definitely a twitchy right left correction at road speeds. At 1st used the OME yellow bushings then learned they only correct approx. 1" of lift & about a year later they needed replacement. I then went to 2" MAF drop brackets.
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Thanks GW! I just saw a good set of bushings which includes two panhard bushings as well. It's worth a try plus they are the real deal from the land down under. Will give an update later.
For the rear springs, caster is irrelevant.
Up front, the 2861 (I assume these are the same as the 861) should require no correction. No issues on my truck and I haven't heard of anyone else needing it. These are designed to deal with the added weight of a winch and other front-end mods.
The 2851 are just a little shorter, but will ride better if your front end weight isn't substantially different from stock. No experience here with them, but I suspect they would not require correction, either, since they are shorter than the 861s.
Thanks green, so you are running 861 in the front and 862 in the rear with stock bushings and no problems? How much of a lift did you get after your install? These are heavies, right, so how's the ride over speed bumps with an empty truck? Do you have any goodies like arb bumper And winch installed? By the way, are the 861 & 862 variable rate springs? Look forward to your responses. Thanks again.
Interested in this thread as well, since my suspension is pretty tired and I need to do something about it soon.
Not interested in really 'lifting' the vehicle but I understand some amount of 'lift' will be realized (from where it is now) simply because I have sag.
I will not be running a tire larger than the 33's I have on it now. I DO keep 200-300 lbs. of gear in the back of it at all times and pull a trailer sometimes. In the front I don't currently have a bumper or winch but plan on adding those .
So what is the advice for springs and shocks with those considerations?
Not interested in really 'lifting' the vehicle but I understand some amount of 'lift' will be realized (from where it is now) simply because I have sag.
I will not be running a tire larger than the 33's I have on it now. I DO keep 200-300 lbs. of gear in the back of it at all times and pull a trailer sometimes. In the front I don't currently have a bumper or winch but plan on adding those .
So what is the advice for springs and shocks with those considerations?
Yes, 861 front/862 rear. No change from tired stock bushings and it's good. You get about an inch of lift initially, but it settles a little after a few months and your net gain over stock will end up being under an inch in my experience.
Yes, they are heavies. The stuff in my sig line is up front (winch and ARB, plus an extra battery.) I have a sleeper/drawer system in back and carry several hundred pounds of gear. The ride is pretty good IMO.
I run the stock Tokico shocks (OEMs from Toyota) in back. In the front, the Tokicos did not have enough dampening, so went with OME Nitro Sports there. The OME shocks are kinda jarring at first, but they've mellowed with age. The combination works very well for this truck. With less weight up front, the Tokicos would be fine, unless you have more dramatic intentions than ordinary DDing and trailrunning. I also added a pair of Air Lift bags in the rear. Mostly for towing, the bags tend to help mellow things even more even when not in use because you need to keep at least 5 PSI in them.
Not sure about the 861/862 being variable rate. I suspect not.
I'd say that's a use case a LOT like mine. See my previous reply to Rupert for more details. You'll be a bit oversprung until you add the winch and bumper, but it will still be OK to drive.
Thanks, yes sounds very similar to my use and needs. I'll be adding a front bumper, a second battery and an 8274 winch, so an appreciable amount of weight added up front. The cargo/tools I carry in the back will remain pretty much constant. Air bags back there can take up any 'slack' if needed when trailering. I think your set up will work for me as well.
I only wish I had more trail time on this rig so I could give you a better view of that. Should be fine for everything except the extremes (and those Colorado washboards that seem impervious to any relief.) This is the most capable and best equipped rig I've ever run (including my FJ55), so I'm confident it will meet my needs. I'm getting too old to fix what breaks, so just need to back off the skinny pedal to stay in bounds. Fact of the matter is, backing off the skinny pedal solves a lot of 80 series issues in my experience. Be patient, you'll get there seems to be what works. Guys running a 3FE get an extra dose of that.
Hear Ya. I turned 66 today....so more inclined to take it easy as well. The less time I have to spend under the Cruiser....the better.
Guys, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas! So I have arb 861 & 862 with free lengths of 18.9" & 18.11", respectively. I bought a set of stock shocks with extended lengths of 23.07" & 22.87", respectively. Will these shocks work with these springs? I plan to do only city driving, potholes & speed bumps. Look forward to your responses. Thanks.
Stock shocks will work fine with those springs and for your purposes. They are also one of the 'great values' in the Toyota Parts line up.
