OEM Front Coil Spacers Installed (16 Viewers)

[CharlieS]

If I understand correctly, that 60 to 65 is a percentage. 5 percent of 285 = 14.25 mm difference in sidewall depth, which equates to 28.50 mm in diameter. I don’t know how do the math quickly, but that seems like a pretty big difference in tire circumference.

 

[bloc]

Yes. That's my plan. IMHO I see no reason to buy 5 tires if I am only using the spare on rare occasions and if I stick with 285/65/18 (I have zero plans to extreme rock crawling). The only difference to the spare is the 60 to 65 in diameter, which in my book is close enough. It may be a different story if I decide on going with 275/70/18. The 60 to 70 in diameter seems pretty significant then.

Your vehicle has a limited slip center differential that will not be happy if you drive for any significant length with that mismatch in diameter. I don’t know what the owners manual says specifically but facing the potential of having to drive hundreds of miles on a spare before it can be addressed, your plan sounds like it could be better developed.

Charlie is correct in that the second number is the sidewall height expressed in percentage of tread width. So that 275/70 is actually very close to 285/65 in overall diameter.

 

[sadovnik]

"your plan sounds like it could be better developed."

 

[MRego]

Your vehicle has a limited slip center differential that will not be happy if you drive for any significant length with that mismatch in diameter. I don’t know what the owners manual says specifically but facing the potential of having to drive hundreds of miles on a spare before it can be addressed, your plan sounds like it could be better developed.

Charlie is correct in that the second number is the sidewall height expressed in percentage of tread width. So that 275/70 is actually very close to 285/65 in overall diameter.

I hear you but, like I said, not planing to drive hundreds of miles on the spare tire and if I do drive certainly will be in low speeds. The guys in Dt will let me compare both tires side by side, but at this point I am inclined to go with the 285s.

 

[MRego]

Level of maturity and adulthood on this one is certainly high.

 

[sadovnik]

Level of maturity and adulthood on this one is certainly high.

Level of English in your reply...not so good.

 

[MRego]

Level of English in your reply...not so good.

And...proves my point.

 

[JohnPW]

I hear you but, like I said, not planing to drive hundreds of miles on the spare tire and if I do drive certainly will be in low speeds. The guys in Dt will let me compare both tires side by side, but at this point I am inclined to go with the 285s.

I still don’t understand your logic. 285/65/18 is more than an inch taller than stock. Using a stock tire as a spare that’s more than an inch shorter is a bad idea in an AWD vehicle. 285/65/18 is only slightly shorter than 275/70/18. The stock spare wouldn’t be a good idea with either. Considering the cost of the vehicle and mods, the cost of a matched spare shouldn’t be that big of a deal. Doing a 5 tire rotation will get your money back out of buying a new spare.

 

[bloc]

None of us plan to drive hundreds of miles on a spare but sometimes we are forced to.

If you won't have it in a 5-tire rotation I can understand not spending money on an exact match, but a cheaper tire in the same size can accomplish the job with no detriment to your driveline. Then there are zero worries about how quickly you need to get a flat repaired or replaced. It's only a few hundred dollars to throw a 285/65 on the spare and avoid the potential thousands in transfer case repair costs.

@JohnPW I'm totally in support of 5-tire rotations but some people have cosmetically damaged spare wheels (me), or like the Heritage buyers that got 4 of those wheels and one base model spare, I get just using the spare as a spare.

 

[MRego]

None of us plan to drive hundreds of miles on a spare but sometimes we are forced to.

If you won't have it in a 5-tire rotation I can understand not spending money on an exact match, but a cheaper tire in the same size can accomplish the job with no detriment

None of us plan to drive hundreds of miles on a spare but sometimes we are forced to.

If you won't have it in a 5-tire rotation I can understand not spending money on an exact match, but a cheaper tire in the same size can accomplish the job with no detriment to your driveline. Then there are zero worries about how quickly you need to get a flat repaired or replaced. It's only a few hundred dollars to throw a 285/65 on the spare and avoid the potential thousands in transfer case repair costs.

@JohnPW I'm totally in support of 5-tire rotations but some people have cosmetically damaged spare wheels (me), or like the Heritage buyers that got 4 of those wheels and one base model spare, I get just using the spare as a spare.

to your driveline. Then there are zero worries about how quickly you need to get a flat repaired or replaced. It's only a few hundred dollars to throw a 285/65 on the spare and avoid the potential thousands in transfer case repair costs.

@JohnPW I'm totally in support of 5-tire rotations but some people have cosmetically damaged spare wheels (me), or like the Heritage buyers that got 4 of those wheels and one base model spare, I get just using the spare as a spare.

You both make good points. These guys at DT are giving me credit for my stock tires, so I may go this route and just slap the cheapest 285/65 into the spare wheel and avoid potential troubles. I don’t plan to do 5-tire rotation, since I have heritage wheels. Thanks for your insights.

 

[prwillard2]

You both make good points. These guys at DT are giving me credit for my stock tires, so I may go this route and just slap the cheapest 285/65 into the spare wheel and avoid potential troubles. I don’t plan to do 5-tire rotation, since I have heritage wheels. Thanks for your insights.

How much of a credit are they giving you for the stock wheels at discount? Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not say publicly. I'm looking to upgrade my stock tires as well.

 

[MRego]

How much of a credit are they giving you for the stock wheels at discount? Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not say publicly. I'm looking to upgrade my stock tires as well.

No worries. Happy to contribute and let others know what to expect. Course I can’t guarantee they will do the same for everybody else, but I was able to negotiate a total credit of $350 for my four mildly used stock tires (not wheels). I think the guy said they were in DTs second tier of wear. Keep in mind however my front right tire (although in the same condition of the others) has a plug from a gigantic screw that completely deflated it. I am not sure what DT makes with these tires, but I doubt they will put in a customer’s vehicle. So, I am kinda considering that one out of the equation.
As for the spare, since it only touched the ground for about 10 miles, I am hoping to get a little bit more on a trade. We’ll see.

 

[prwillard2]

No worries. Happy to contribute and let others know what to expect. Course I can’t guarantee they will do the same for everybody else, but I was able to negotiate a total credit of $350 for my four mildly used stock tires (not wheels). I think the guy said they were in DTs second tier of wear. Keep in mind however my front right tire (although in the same condition of the others) has a plug from a gigantic screw that completely deflated it. I am not sure what DT makes with these tires, but I doubt they will put in a customer’s vehicle. So, I am kinda considering that one out of the equation.
As for the spare, since it only touched the ground for about 10 miles, I am hoping to get a little bit more on a trade. We’ll see.

Thanks for the info, what state is your discount tire in? Definitely meant the tires, not the wheels.

 

[MRego]

Thanks for the info, what state is your discount tire in? Definitely meant the tires, not the wheels.

I am in Texas.

 

[7000ft]

I put four OEM Dunlops (9,000 miles) from my 2020 HE on Craig's List and Facebook Marketplace and sold them for $500.00 to a guy who wanted them for his 2013 LC200.

 

[HSTexan]

That's a pretty killer deal on your trade in credits; my Discount Tire did $75/tire for a total of $375 for all 5 on my two day old 62 miles Dunlops. I was pretty thrilled with that as it was better than I'd read elsewhere, but it sounds like you get an even better deal. I'm also in the camp of using a full size spare whether you plan to rotate in or not. If you're out wheeling and you destroy a tire beyond field repair a full size spare lets you continue going (albeit more carefully). I've got a full sized Ridge Grappler tucked up in the factory spot; I have no plans to do a 5 tire rotation, but I like knowing that if I pop a tire I don't have to end my trip prematurely.

 

[MRego]

That's a pretty killer deal on your trade in credits; my Discount Tire did $75/tire for a total of $375 for all 5 on my two day old 62 miles Dunlops. I was pretty thrilled with that as it was better than I'd read elsewhere, but it sounds like you get an even better deal. I'm also in the camp of using a full size spare whether you plan to rotate in or not. If you're out wheeling and you destroy a tire beyond field repair a full size spare lets you continue going (albeit more carefully). I've got a full sized Ridge Grappler tucked up in the factory spot; I have no plans to do a 5 tire rotation, but I like knowing that if I pop a tire I don't have to end my trip prematurely.

Thanks. If you don’t mind me asking, did you stick with OEM size for the new tires?

 

[HSTexan]

Thanks. If you don’t mind me asking, did you stick with OEM size for the new tires?

No I'm running 275/70R18--the extra height was worth it to me over the .4" of width

 

[MRego]

No I'm running 275/70R18--the extra height was worth it to me over the .4" of width

Thanks. Any chance you could post some pictures? Especially from the back of the truck.

 

[HSTexan]

Thanks. Any chance you could post some pictures? Especially from the back of the truck.

No spacers of any sort, 100% stock suspension and offset