Nitto Terra Grappler vs Bridgestone Revo

[collector_edi]

I am getting bored and need some advice. I have stock Michelins and would like to get new tires. I've taken the search path and was wondering if I could get feedback from those that have stock suspension and made the move from Michelins to something bigger.

The vehicle is a DD. I take it to work, mostly expressway driven and do not see an opportunity in the near future to go off-roading. I have new babies to take care of. In any event I like the idea of going bigger but would like an improvement in pavement performance. Is this even possible if I want to go bigger? Is it a pipedream to go bigger and not lose ride comfort? I've read the Revo's are an improvement but what constitutes improvement? Some people like a hard suspension. I do not want to feel more bumps. Would the taller sidewall cushion it more or cause the wheel to not absorb the impact as much?

What should I do? Purchase another set of Michelins or go bigger?

 

[filthyrich]

NTG are cheaper than Revos. I love Revos excpet they pick up a lot of rocks.
NTG b/c you can save $$$$ and they are strong as hell

 

[alia176]

Since your priorities are like most of us, on road driving, I'd suggest either Revos or Geolander AT II+. I have a set of Geos, so if you wanna meet up and check them out, let me know.

For the wheeling that I do in this area, the Geos do a decent job. The side lugs are large enough to get me through most muddy obstacles I encounter. Road manners are very nice with a slight noise at higher speeds but nothing like the MT/Rs I had previously. I have a set of 315s and they balance nicely. These tires have gone through Moab and some CO w/o any rips or tears. They don't cup at all but I rotate them quite often at Discount Tires. They matched tirerack price of $125/each when I purchased them two years ago.


Ali

 

[cabron]

Alot of people have the NTG on daily drivers and most post positive experiences on them. Money savings as well.

 

[Hayes]

There are many posts on both of these tires. I have the Nittos, and I think you would be happy with them, for what you describe. I've also read many glowing reviews of the Revos.

I think size is your biggest question.

The general attitude I sense is that stock tire sizes are best for highway perfomance and safety. There's a lengthy post about roll-over hazards and tire size and lifts around here (sorry for not providing the link).

Otherwise, I think most folks would agree that 285/75 R16 is probably the best all-around size for a stock suspension that goes off road sometimes. I had this size on mine, and didn't feel limited off road, but it will make it a little more of a reach to get in and out (potential problem for kids and elderly folks).

Hayes

 

[cruiser4life]

IMO, if you're only going to be driving on the road, you like the Michelins except for the size and want bigger tires, move up a size in the LTX's to the 285/75r16.

If you do decide to do some light offroading, most likely the LTX's will be OK but certainly not a A/T or M/T. You're not going to beat the street manners of the LTX's in this comparison. The only drawback is $$ - they are pretty expensive and with the next size up you're looking at north of $200 per tire out the door.

On the other hand, I can't speak to the Revo's but have NTG's and really, really like them. I'll be buying more. Road manners are fine, perform well in snow, mud, rocks, etc. and are very inexpensive. I just bought a spare last week in 295/75r16 and I paid $120 mounted and out the door. Don't know about their longevity (haven't had them that long) but I've heard it's more than adequate.

 

[tucker74]

Go with the Nitto's or BFG A/T's in a 285/75R16 They'll both run great on the road and offer better traction for light wheeling - Revo's are just like what you've got.

My $.02 ...

Tucker

 

[97fortieth4me]

Go with Nittos!! You won't be dissapointed. Price & performance, you can't go wrong. Hopefully, I'll be getting a set on the LC soon.

 

[fzj80kidpen]

I went with the older dueler AT's
Not as pricey, not the new rubber but they are a great tire.
I have 25K miles on them and the have no noticable treadwear.
They are not loud on the highway.
I think they have a better tread pattern than the Revo's.

 

[Driley]

Nokian Vatiiva

I just installed Nokian Vatiivas on my 1994 LC DD and have been pretty happy. Rides a lot smoother than the previous Toyo Open Country AT. Snow and ice for the last 2 months here in central Oregon and no sliding. Cheap price ($550.00 for 4 mounted/balanced/out the door at the Tire Factory). I went with 265/75 16 because it was the only size they had on hand. No rock climbing, but great in the snow and ice and fit the stock suspension nicely (Look nice too - If that matters. I need to get a digital camera to put up some photos).

Riley

 

[ed97fzj80]

Revo's are not just like what you've got. They ride a little bit firmer than the stock tires due to the stiffer side wall, road manners are good, and they are quiet. They are far superior to the stock Michelins in rain and mud. I haven't had them in snow yet, so no opinion there. I haven't run the Nittos so I can't say how they compare to one another.

 

[tucker74]

All this Revo talk ...

Revo/LTX M/S: Look pretty close to me

BFG A/T/Nitto: Getting better ...

MTR: Now you're there

Tucker

 

[firetruck41]

Revo/LTX look nothing alike to me :shrug: Revo has more void, bigger tread block, much more shoulder "tread", deeper/thicker tread.

 

[hoser]

Revo/LTX look nothing alike to me :shrug: Revo has more void, bigger tread block, much more shoulder "tread", deeper/thicker tread.

And half the tire is under that rubber... the tire's construction. The construction of the LTX is not the same as the Revo.

Anyway, 11/05 issue of Consumer Reports tests the Revo against the Nitto Terragrappler (if their ratings mean anything to you--sometimes they are off).
The Revo rated better in braking (on-road), cornering and hydroplaning. The NTG rated better snow traction, ice braking and overall comfort. The NTG rated best overall. Both tires rated very poorly in terms of "rolling resistance."

 

[roncruiser]

You'll like the Revo's as a DD. When and if you go off-road, they are more than enough tire for you. Anymore aggressive tread and road noise enters the picture.
It's a good solid tire and I use it on my DD. Have put a good 15K miles and still going strong. Put a good 5K miles over the course of 3 weeks of mixed on/off road. They've carried me over the hills and through the woods. I can send you pics of where they've taken me. Here's more information:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=29035

 

[ed97fzj80]

Michelin LTX M/S 275/70 HR16 (OE)
Service Description 114H
Max Load: 2601 lbs
Tread Depth: 12/32"

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 285/75 RR16
Service Description 122/119R
Max Load: 3301 lbs
Tread Depth: 17/32"



edi, ISTM that either one is going to be fine for what you have in mind. It's pretty apparent that guys with Nittos like their tires, and guys with Revos like their tires.

 

[tucker74]

edi, ISTM that either one is going to be fine for what you have in mind. It's pretty apparent that guys with Nittos like their tires, and guys with Revos like their tires.

I was stating they are not different enough to warrant the change, not that they are exactly the same. They have more rolling resistance and minimal gains in traction over the factory rubber. If you want to drive to the mall - stick with the Michelins. If you want to hang with the big boys - you need something more aggressive. "Do all" tires don’t do anything very well ... my $.02.



Tucker

 

[Tools R Us]

I am a big fan of the Grapplers, good tires. If your only going to use your truck as a bus some good all season tires will be more economical.

 

[Mace]

Grapplers work good on a tow rig

Even MTR's are a poor susbsitute for a wheelin tire.

 

[Tools R Us]

Grapplers work good on a tow rig

Even MTR's are a poor susbsitute for a wheelin tire.

Unfortunately some of us have to DD the wheeler, I am not delivering tools everyday on swampers! Someday when I am as fortunate as you, my trail rig will have proper trail tires on it and the Nitto equipped one will be the tow rig!